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Necromancy tied to the Justice System?
mateosalvaje
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If we do get it, would it be good or bad for active Necromancy to incur a bounty while in highly populated areas? I seem to recall it's not illegal, just frowned upon, but wouldn't a ban make things more interesting?
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Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭we can be werewolves or vampires in the middle of a city, its fine lolEdited by Aliyavana on January 7, 2019 1:52AM10 -
Latios✭✭✭✭✭Hmm...I mean justice system does need some love.
Yup, it's pretty much abandoned as it is.
I don't see much reason to make Necromancers get a bounty, as that wouldn't really change anything for anyone other than the necromancer himself. The justice system is, as of now, basically a solo mechanic in this game.The Eon Pokémon.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I would seriously doubt Zos would make a class (or having a skill from a skill line on the bar) cause a player to incur a bounty.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »
Guards are of little consequence. Never have had to worry about them. They are so easy to escape but are the only thing that makes a bounty actually mean something. They should stay as they are or make them even tougher.Edited by idk on January 7, 2019 3:35AM3 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »
Guards are of little consequence. Never have had to worry about them. They are so easy to escape but are the only thing that makes a bounty actually mean something. They should stay as they are or make them even tougher.
Instead guards need help from hero's of tamerial. Let's round up some criminals!1 -
ArchangelIsraphel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »
Guards are of little consequence. Never have had to worry about them. They are so easy to escape but are the only thing that makes a bounty actually mean something. They should stay as they are or make them even tougher.
Instead guards need help from hero's of tamerial. Let's round up some criminals!
If they were to implement a mechanic where people were actually able to hunt down those with a bounty on their heads, those who are "rounding up criminals" would actually be the ones stealing from other players, given that thieving and murder is a solo mechanic that affects no one but a few NPC's. Depending on what the reward system is, and whether or not you can take any stolen goods on their person, this could be a very toxic mechanic that we simply do not need. No one would be a hero. They'd simply use it to grief people.Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
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dazee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »Salvas_Aren wrote: »
Guards are of little consequence. Never have had to worry about them. They are so easy to escape but are the only thing that makes a bounty actually mean something. They should stay as they are or make them even tougher.
Instead guards need help from hero's of tamerial. Let's round up some criminals!
If they were to implement a mechanic where people were actually able to hunt down those with a bounty on their heads, those who are "rounding up criminals" would actually be the ones stealing from other players, given that thieving and murder is a solo mechanic that affects no one but a few NPC's. Depending on what the reward system is, and whether or not you can take any stolen goods on their person, this could be a very toxic mechanic that we simply do not need. No one would be a hero. They'd simply use it to grief people.
Yeah giving players the ability to collect on bounties would basically be open world pvp and nobody NOBODY wants open world pvp in a game not designed for it from the ground up. its a cancer in WoW and it would be a cancer in ESO. only trolls and griefers like open world pvp.Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.7 -
Elusiin✭✭✭✭✭ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »Salvas_Aren wrote: »
Guards are of little consequence. Never have had to worry about them. They are so easy to escape but are the only thing that makes a bounty actually mean something. They should stay as they are or make them even tougher.
Instead guards need help from hero's of tamerial. Let's round up some criminals!
If they were to implement a mechanic where people were actually able to hunt down those with a bounty on their heads, those who are "rounding up criminals" would actually be the ones stealing from other players, given that thieving and murder is a solo mechanic that affects no one but a few NPC's. Depending on what the reward system is, and whether or not you can take any stolen goods on their person, this could be a very toxic mechanic that we simply do not need. No one would be a hero. They'd simply use it to grief people.
Yeah giving players the ability to collect on bounties would basically be open world pvp and nobody NOBODY wants open world pvp in a game not designed for it from the ground up. its a cancer in WoW and it would be a cancer in ESO. only trolls and griefers like open world pvp.
Actually WoW makes open world pvp a togglable option, which means you can play without open world pvp if you want. I would prefer ZoS did this instead of limiting it only to Cyrodiil.4 -
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✭✭DanteMR1995 wrote: »Actually WoW makes open world pvp a togglable option, which means you can play without open world pvp if you want. I would prefer ZoS did this instead of limiting it only to Cyrodiil.
I don't know how it is in BFA but in legion even on "PVE" servers trolls and losers would constantly kill quest NPCs bankers and
shopkeepers. becuase blizzard is pants on head stupid and wouldn't make those NPCs unkillable and guards were a joke by then.
You think ESO guards are too easy to get away from and cant kill people? HA! I see them kill people every day. WoW guards are 100% INCAPABLE of killing max level players. or anyone close.Edited by dazee on January 7, 2019 4:11AMPlaying your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DanteMR1995 wrote: »Actually WoW makes open world pvp a togglable option, which means you can play without open world pvp if you want. I would prefer ZoS did this instead of limiting it only to Cyrodiil.
I don't know how it is in BFA but in legion even on "PVE" servers trolls and losers would constantly kill quest NPCs bankers and
shopkeepers. becuase blizzard is pants on head stupid and wouldn't make those NPCs unkillable and guards were a joke by then.
You think ESO guards are too easy to get away from and cant kill people? HA! I see them kill people every day. WoW guards are 100% INCAPABLE of killing max level players. or anyone close.
Exactly. I mean, when I'm in Hews Bane or Vvardenfell, I constantly see people running by me with guards on their tail, getting insta-killed, or killed a few seconds later. These aren't even new players, but players who are higher level than I am.
Granted? If you know what you're doing, you can definitely get away from the guards in time. But I don't see other players doing that very often...Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »
Guards are of little consequence. Never have had to worry about them. They are so easy to escape but are the only thing that makes a bounty actually mean something. They should stay as they are or make them even tougher.
Instead guards need help from hero's of tamerial. Let's round up some criminals!
That ship sailed long ago. Zos ditched their early ideas of having an PvP aspect to the justice system.
The problem with a game that is not billed as open world PvP they would have had to develop a system where a player opted in to the PvP aspect or not. Besides the reality few with common sense would flag themselves, systems like that are often ripe to be exploited.
Basically, not worth the effort.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The world needs to recognize whats going on within it more accordingly. Werewolves and Vampires should incur hostility from City Guards when openly showing their curses. And now the same thing for Necromancy. If you practice the Magic by casting a Necromancy ability within sight of a Guard you should at the least get a bounty.
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mateosalvaje✭✭✭✭I was thinking it could help curtail some problems we might face from having hundreds of reanimated corpses trailing behind people?I've been wrong before, and I'll be wrong again.0
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✭✭I would like it but there are quite a few quests in or around towns near guards, would make the class quite hard to play. Which would be fine by me but I'm sure a flock of snowflakes would throw a temper tantrum.0 -
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Perfect chance for the Necromancer to bring it back then.stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »I believe the Justice System is a dead issue.
I would like to see the justice system expanded but I think if they do it then it needs to be a broad mechanic for everyone not just one class getting some extras from it.
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✭Open world PvP just because people want to be a Necromancer?
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Ajaxandriel✭✭✭✭✭*City Guard reading accusations*
"Well. Vampism, Necromancy, corpse defilement, skeleton puppetting, and ... WAIT WHAT? STOLEN A CARROT??!!!"
[removed gif]Hmm...I mean justice system does need some love.Edited by ZOS_JesC on January 15, 2019 10:26PMTESO:Triskelion - forum RP, guilde francophoneAjaxandriel - haut-elfe gardien 50 ;Altarya - haute-elfe templière 50 ;Angelith - elfe des bois gardienne 50 ;Antarius Scorpio - impérial chevalier-dragon 50 ;Artémidore de Corbeaulieu - bréton lame noire 50 ;Azothos Sadras - elfe noir sorcier 50 ;Celestras - haut-elfe sorcier 50 ;Diluviatar - elfe des mers sorcier 50 ;Dorguldun gro-Arash - orque sorcier 50 ;Hjarnar - nordique sorcier 50 ;Jendaya al-Gilane - rougegarde chevalier-dragon 50 ;Sabbathnazar Ullikummi - elfe noir chevalier-dragon 50 ;Selvaryn Virotès - elfe noire lame noire 50 ;Tahajmi - khajiit sorcière 50 ;Telernil - haut-elfe templier 50 ;Zadzadak - gobelin nécromancien 50 ;Zandoga - rougegarde chevalier-dragon 502 -
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✭✭✭✭mateosalvaje wrote: »I was thinking it could help curtail some problems we might face from having hundreds of reanimated corpses trailing behind people?
Oh gods. I hadn't thought of that. It's gross enough when you're in a nice quiet bank and someone with the zombie personality starts BLEAAAAHHH CHHLERGH PTTTHP all over your back...herds of them would be deafening.
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✭✭I am so hyped for necromancer and even more hyped for it to be illegal. I hope they give werewolves and stage 4 vampires the same treatment."Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
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✭stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »I believe the Justice System is a dead issue.
I see what you did there.@JamuThatsWho - PC EU - CP2100
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✭✭✭Great for roleplaying people, but potentially quite annoying having only a single class have this penalty for using skills near guards. I would hope that dueling removes the justice system impact.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The distrust of necromancy is on the part of NPCs, nothing whatsoever to do with PvP (other than where those NPCs are in PvP zones presumably). The Justice System remains as it is, a PvE system in PvE zones.0 -
mateosalvaje✭✭✭✭mateosalvaje wrote: »I was thinking it could help curtail some problems we might face from having hundreds of reanimated corpses trailing behind people?
Oh gods. I hadn't thought of that. It's gross enough when you're in a nice quiet bank and someone with the zombie personality starts BLEAAAAHHH CHHLERGH PTTTHP all over your back...herds of them would be deafening.
I love the zombie personality 😝I've been wrong before, and I'll be wrong again.0
