Necromancer, please add class change token

Gnozo

caesarvs wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Pls no, dont want to see necromancer grand overlord on release date.....

And how the existence of an "Necromancer Grand Overlord", from OTHER PLAYER, will affect you in the game???

I agree with OP, not everybody has the time to grind from lvl 1 till 50, then skyshards, then the same quests that give skill points, then undaunted/mages/psijic/fighters/assault/support tree lines, to fit for an group content (whatever casual or endgame) that they want to do on this necro class. Mainly, for those who cares about their OWN titles/achievments (instead of you caring about others player titles), a class change token or necro as skill line would be great.

How about an instant max Level token?

With skilllines, weapon lines, armor lines, Guild lines maxed?

Class change will never happen what is more likely to happen is a level 50 token with maxed out skilllines and Account wide archivements.

I already suggested such things but overall the community didnt really liked it. "You want it, earn it". But now a new class comes and everyone wants a class change token to not do all the grind again. This community......

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/421885/crown-store-suggestion-level-50-token-guild-line-token/p1

SteveCampsOut

How bout you go play a pay to win game?

Welkynar

Gnozo wrote: »

caesarvs wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Pls no, dont want to see necromancer grand overlord on release date.....

And how the existence of an "Necromancer Grand Overlord", from OTHER PLAYER, will affect you in the game???

I agree with OP, not everybody has the time to grind from lvl 1 till 50, then skyshards, then the same quests that give skill points, then undaunted/mages/psijic/fighters/assault/support tree lines, to fit for an group content (whatever casual or endgame) that they want to do on this necro class. Mainly, for those who cares about their OWN titles/achievments (instead of you caring about others player titles), a class change token or necro as skill line would be great.

How about an instant max Level token?

With skilllines, weapon lines, armor lines, Guild lines maxed?

Class change will never happen what is more likely to happen is a level 50 token with maxed out skilllines and Account wide archivements.

I already suggested such things but overall the community didnt really liked it. "You want it, earn it". But now a new class comes and everyone wants a class change token to not do all the grind again. This community......

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/421885/crown-store-suggestion-level-50-token-guild-line-token/p1

That's not a fair comparison.

If somebody played 1000 hours on their main, they have earned what they earned in those 1000 hours and changing the class on that character, without granting anything additional than what was already earned, then it would not be buying levels or buying something that isn't earned. If somebody changed their class at 10 hours of total gameplay and they're lvl 35, then a class change token would logically keep them at lvl 35, just with a new class. Literally the only thing you're changing with a class change are the 3 class skill lines.

If somebody played ESO for 1 hour and bought a token that granted them instant maxed levels, those maxed levels would not be earned.

Gnozo

Welkynar wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

caesarvs wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Pls no, dont want to see necromancer grand overlord on release date.....

And how the existence of an "Necromancer Grand Overlord", from OTHER PLAYER, will affect you in the game???

I agree with OP, not everybody has the time to grind from lvl 1 till 50, then skyshards, then the same quests that give skill points, then undaunted/mages/psijic/fighters/assault/support tree lines, to fit for an group content (whatever casual or endgame) that they want to do on this necro class. Mainly, for those who cares about their OWN titles/achievments (instead of you caring about others player titles), a class change token or necro as skill line would be great.

How about an instant max Level token?

With skilllines, weapon lines, armor lines, Guild lines maxed?

Class change will never happen what is more likely to happen is a level 50 token with maxed out skilllines and Account wide archivements.

I already suggested such things but overall the community didnt really liked it. "You want it, earn it". But now a new class comes and everyone wants a class change token to not do all the grind again. This community......

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/421885/crown-store-suggestion-level-50-token-guild-line-token/p1

That's not a fair comparison.

If somebody played 1000 hours on their main, they have earned what they earned in those 1000 hours and changing the class on that character, without granting anything additional than what was already earned, then it would not be buying levels or buying something that isn't earned. If somebody changed their class at 10 hours of total gameplay and they're lvl 35, then a class change token would logically keep them at lvl 35, just with a new class.

If somebody played ESO for 1 hour and bought a token that granted them instant maxed levels, those maxed levels would not be earned.

And how about put a condition on it? Like you need to have reached at least cp 160 and already leveled mages Guild, undaunted etc at least once to use the token.

That is kinda fair for me.

rafaelcsmaia

Classes should work like werewolf and vampire skill lines. Mutually exclusive and you can swap them via quest (or token if zos is way too greedy).

The mechanic of skill line changing is already ingame, they just need to adapt it and wipe you from leaderboards on doing so.

richo262

They should just merge the Nightblade into the base game and have every Nightblade granted a character bound class change token.

Assassination - Merges with Dark Brotherhood
Shadow - Merges with Thieves Guild
Siphon - Merges with Soul Magic

Allow people that do not own the DLC to become an 'initiate', where they dont get the fancy DLC perks, but they have access to a skill tree.

The Nightblade is pretty much already established by all the guilds and main quest already. People can still play as NB, they just use the Guild skills instead of Class skills.

Tigerseye

On the one hand, you tend to play a class better if you level it from scratch.

On the other, levelling takes a while in this game and expecting people to go for the same skyshards, over and over, is unreasonable.

Tigerseye

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Yea, this would actually be a very sound business decision on ZoS' part to release class skill line tokens.

Like, REALLY cash money good idea type *** lol

They better make sure it's not overpowered (or even at the top of the tree), if they did this.

Otherwise, it really would be pay-to-win.

Honestly, it would probably be better to do what WoW did, with DK and just start the Necro at level 30, or something.

...and make skyshards and skill points account-wide.

Elsonso

caesarvs wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Pls no, dont want to see necromancer grand overlord on release date.....

And how the existence of an "Necromancer Grand Overlord", from OTHER PLAYER, will affect you in the game???

Some people like to try to be the first?

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Zos wants you to make new toons to keep you grinding. That's how mmorpgs have come to work. And yes, your [insert class name] did those achievements, not your [insert class name] that's now a necromancer. They will probably increase character slots like they did for Warden and that'll be it.

This is what I expect. Base game will be 8 characters, buyable to 16. I also wonder whether they will stop at 16, being that is a nice base-2 number.

I expect class change and instant 50 tokens, but not until we get closer to End of Life. Right now, they want people to experience the whole game. Later, as attention wanders to other things, they won't care what we do in the game, as long as we pay for it.

It would be really really cruel if they introduced an "hours played" achievement that unlocked things. Heh.

victory.immortalb16_ESO

I'll happily level up another toon slowly (rather than rush it to 50).

My only gripe is the undaunted line, which takes forever to level up and could be easily fixed by giving points for public dungeons and maybe one or two points for completing delves out in the world- as finding groups for the daily dungeons isn't always easy.

EvilCroc

I hope they will add additional character slots. 3 of them. I have 15 toons already and I do not want to rework my character system again

Rake

we have 15 slots now.
3x for each existing class.
Expecting one free slot with new chapter + 2 that can be bought for crowns.
That was the case with Warden.

ZarkingFrued

majulook wrote: »

AlienatedGoat wrote: »

They didn't relent on class change tokens when Warden was released.

I don't really expect them to do so this time either.

I agree, I do not see a class change happening.

I do expect the Necromancer class will have a few skills or abilities that will make people call it "Over Powered" and "P2W" and a major nerf to those skills or abilities in the very next update.

Apparently you miss the point which is ZOS will purposefully make it OP and P2W, then after enough people buy it so they can jump on the meta train, ZOS will nerf it

O_LYKOS

No. Just add an additional character slot so people level a new one.

MajBludd

Just put max level in crown store, zos. Think of all the money you can make to not fix ongoing issues.
While there at it, just put vma, vdsa, titles etc, emperor costume, and all skins in the store too.

While I agree leveling sucks and can be boring, it's better than what I just posted above, imo.

idk

This request is very much unlikely. Not saying it will not happen but if they did not do it for the Warden there is no reason to think they will do it for this new class, or whatever it will be.

Hiruda

Everybody can have a different opinion, on the subject. If you dont agree with someone opinion, no need to be aggressive
Stay civilized

Merlin13KAGL

If they're smart, they'll unlock about 3-5 more available character slots.

Merlin13KAGL

victory.immortalb16_ESO wrote: »

I'll happily level up another toon slowly (rather than rush it to 50).

My only gripe is the undaunted line, which takes forever to level up and could be easily fixed by giving points for public dungeons and maybe one or two points for completing delves out in the world- as finding groups for the daily dungeons isn't always easy.

@victory.immortalb16_ESO it takes <25 hours to hit Undaunted 9, and it's only a 6% gain at best. You can have half the benefit by the time you do reach 50, simply by doing the daily randoms as you level.

I don't see them adding any boosters of any kind, save some XP scrolls. People need to learn the class, and that includes in 4 man.

MornaBaine

If this is indeed a class and not a skill line then yes, it is high time for a class change token. In fact I think ONE ought to come free with the purchase of the chapter, since that's likely when we'll be seeing this. At least for those that pre-purchase. It would also be smart of them to throw us that bone since after the release of Morrowind they then turned around and gave it away with Summerset and turned it into DLC where it is much cheaper than it was at release. This... really stung a lot of people. And made many folks determined to just wait for Summerset to be treated the same way. And the price of Summerset has come down a great deal from its initial release. So in order to hook us into buying early, and at full price, Zeni would be wise to bait us with some VERY NICE additional perks and I do mean beyond yet another "exclusive" costume.

mocap

players want to change their main without loosing achivements, sky shards, books, quests and any other progress. Even if class change token will release, my advice is to think twice before changing.

You may regret about it, especially if they add something like a class change cooldown for like one year.

themaddaedra

I hate reading all those lvl 50 is not hard comments. Makes me think too many people in community either have no idea what they are talking about or worse are actually bad people who want to see others go through all the nonsense process just because they will.

I can hit level 50 in day one with enough %150 xp scrolls/drinks. I can even do all guild levellings in less than a week. But how is it going to be close to my main? How will i have 33k+ achievement points on that toon? This game is being ridiculous by having an achievement list but not giving you a choice of either seeing it account-wide or letting you change class on main.

Give me a class change token and i promise i will fully level 3 different necromancers to negate your "don't want easy way" nonsense.

rafaelcsmaia

MornaBaine wrote: »

If this is indeed a class and not a skill line then yes, it is high time for a class change token. In fact I think ONE ought to come free with the purchase of the chapter, since that's likely when we'll be seeing this. At least for those that pre-purchase. It would also be smart of them to throw us that bone since after the release of Morrowind they then turned around and gave it away with Summerset and turned it into DLC where it is much cheaper than it was at release. This... really stung a lot of people. And made many folks determined to just wait for Summerset to be treated the same way. And the price of Summerset has come down a great deal from its initial release. So in order to hook us into buying early, and at full price, Zeni would be wise to bait us with some VERY NICE additional perks and I do mean beyond yet another "exclusive" costume.

Unless they go full greedy mode and make pre order have necro included, after that its a separate item for only 3k crowns

Elsonso

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

If this is indeed a class and not a skill line then yes, it is high time for a class change token. In fact I think ONE ought to come free with the purchase of the chapter, since that's likely when we'll be seeing this. At least for those that pre-purchase. It would also be smart of them to throw us that bone since after the release of Morrowind they then turned around and gave it away with Summerset and turned it into DLC where it is much cheaper than it was at release. This... really stung a lot of people. And made many folks determined to just wait for Summerset to be treated the same way. And the price of Summerset has come down a great deal from its initial release. So in order to hook us into buying early, and at full price, Zeni would be wise to bait us with some VERY NICE additional perks and I do mean beyond yet another "exclusive" costume.

Unless they go full greedy mode and make pre order have necro included, after that its a separate item for only 3k crowns

I expect that any Necromancer class will follow Warden, and any Necromancer skill line will follow Psijic, as far as monetization is concerned.

I plan to pre-order whatever this thing is that they are going to be announcing. I can't see, at this point, any reason that I would not. ZOS is doing acceptable work, especially at the core game dev. As long as they continue to do that, I am fine with them including Necromancy in the chapter or as a pre-order.

MornaBaine

mocap wrote: »

players want to change their main without loosing achivements, sky shards, books, quests and any other progress. Even if class change token will release, my advice is to think twice before changing.

You may regret about it, especially if they add something like a class change cooldown for like one year.

I have so many max level Sorcs I can EASILY switch at least one of them over to Necromancer without feeling at all bad about it. Seriously, this needs to be a thing!

rafaelcsmaia

MornaBaine wrote: »

mocap wrote: »

players want to change their main without loosing achivements, sky shards, books, quests and any other progress. Even if class change token will release, my advice is to think twice before changing.

You may regret about it, especially if they add something like a class change cooldown for like one year.

I have so many max level Sorcs I can EASILY switch at least one of them over to Necromancer without feeling at all bad about it. Seriously, this needs to be a thing!

I have played all classes well enough to know that my main magsorc sucks, even though i tried for 4 years to make it fit the way I want to play. Im sure i wont regret changing.

MornaBaine

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

If this is indeed a class and not a skill line then yes, it is high time for a class change token. In fact I think ONE ought to come free with the purchase of the chapter, since that's likely when we'll be seeing this. At least for those that pre-purchase. It would also be smart of them to throw us that bone since after the release of Morrowind they then turned around and gave it away with Summerset and turned it into DLC where it is much cheaper than it was at release. This... really stung a lot of people. And made many folks determined to just wait for Summerset to be treated the same way. And the price of Summerset has come down a great deal from its initial release. So in order to hook us into buying early, and at full price, Zeni would be wise to bait us with some VERY NICE additional perks and I do mean beyond yet another "exclusive" costume.

Unless they go full greedy mode and make pre order have necro included, after that its a separate item for only 3k crowns

Do NOT give them ideas! LOL

Elwendryll

Do you think they could be willing to troll us by intentionally introducing fake assets in the game files, with a fake chapter description ? Necromancer feels very like, playing a dremora you know, or a worm cultist. Everyone in tamriel hates necromancer, fighters guild, mages guild. If they do implement them, they're probably going to make a big "historical change". Because at one point necromancy became common place. Will it be now?

Elsonso

Elwendryll wrote: »

Do you think they could be willing to troll us by intentionally introducing fake assets in the game files, with a fake chapter description ? Necromancer feels very like, playing a dremora you know, or a worm cultist. Everyone in tamriel hates necromancer, fighters guild, mages guild. If they do implement them, they're probably going to make a big "historical change". Because at one point necromancy became common place. Will it be now?

No, they will not do that. However, if we mis-interpret what is being mined, they won't object.

keevil111

Wait, ppl actually go for achievements and titles on different characters? I mean, skyshards yea but, all that other crap?

Wow, I must be one lazy piece of skeever dung.