Vanus Galerion

H3IIi0N

Having played through the vanilla main quest numerous times I think it’s safe to say the voice acting for Vanus Galerion is horrible. I’ve tried locating the actor responsible for this travesty.

Amusingly I can find almost every other voice actor but his. ESO should do like Destiny & completely redo his voice like they did Peter Dinklages bored reading of the lines.

validifyedneb18_ESO

If they're going to do that, why dont they just replace the entire main quest?

The world of ESO has been in what feels like story line stasis for 4 years now. The main quest really doesn't reflect content fitting the current game. The number of times ive had to explain to new players that its basically just old content and the reason it feels different and bad is because it was designed for a different/worse kind of game, from back at launch.

JD2013

I can't actually remember the voice acting for him it's been so long since I have done the MQ! Is it that bad?? A lot of the vanilla voice acting was ok. Especially Abnur Thar, Mannimarco, Molag and The Prophet. And most importantly Cadwell.

JD2013

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »

If they're going to do that, why dont they just replace the entire main quest?

The world of ESO has been in what feels like story line stasis for 4 years now. The main quest really doesn't reflect content fitting the current game. The number of times ive had to explain to new players that its basically just old content and the reason it feels different and bad is because it was designed for a different/worse kind of game, from back at launch.

It has continued on with the triad etc, that does kind of continue from the MSQ. But from a new player perspective it is very, very messy. You can do the triad stuff before the Planemeld, and being able to do any bit of story in any order gives no coherency or potency to the storylines whatsoever. An overhaul would be welcome.

H3IIi0N

The part where you free him and smash the planar anchor is pretty bad. Having beta tested the game I’m aware of how old it is.

Sylvermynx

Hmm. I turn off voices in toto - because I really hate VA. So I have no idea what he sounds like - or anyone else. I have subtitles active, so I don't miss stuff.

I seriously do NOT miss VA....

H3IIi0N

Remember Beavis & Buttheads school principal with super strained voice and always sweating. Thats what Vanus sounds like. Even with minor dialogue.

Sylvermynx

I have no idea who Beavis and Butthead are, much less their school principal. I assume this must be some.... not so interesting tv thing? Or a game I would never have played since it appeared only on mobile?

H3IIi0N

Theres this thing called youtube....

FrancisCrawford

Vanus Galerion is an arrogant, smarmy, brown-nosing, geeky, public-spirited, heroic politician. Embrace those contradictions, and the voice-acting makes more sense. The character just isn't very likeable.

I also don't like Neramo, who sounds so similar to Galerion I suspect them of having been voiced by the same guy.

I think King Jorunn, Shalidor and other ghostly Nord male authority figures are at least as bad. Whiny, high-pitched male voices make more sense on Altmer mages or Daedric princes than on macho-wannabe Nords.

Sylvermynx

I don't do tv. I don't do youtube. When I'm not in the game(s) I play, I READ. You know. Books....

I gave all my hardbacks (around 2k of them) to step-granddaughter 4 years ago. Now I have all my books on Kindle. SO lovely - all there in my hand....

Have fun with whatever you do. I certainly do.

idk

JD2013 wrote: »

I can't actually remember the voice acting for him it's been so long since I have done the MQ! Is it that bad?? A lot of the vanilla voice acting was ok. Especially Abnur Thar, Mannimarco, Molag and The Prophet. And most importantly Cadwell.

Cadwell was perfect. Really did not find any issues with most major characters in the main story line. Does not seem that many have.

dazee

Molag Bal's Voice acting in ESO is the best voice acting he's had in any Elder Scrolls game period. Don't know why people dislike decent voice acting. Vanus has an appropriate voice too.

Kamatsu

According to UESP, Vanus Galerion's VA was Taliesin Jaffe. Although not sure where their source is, as his IMDB does not state that he specifically plays this part - just that he was an 'additional voices'.

UESP: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Voice_Actors

Taliesin Jaffe's IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0043552/

Sylvermynx

I don't like VA period. Good, excellent or otherwise. I hear everyone inside my mind as I play. I do NOT want someone's else's idea of a voice to overwrite my own vision of what that person should sound like.

I actually DETEST the prevalence of VA in games. How I hear people (in my mind) is far more important than whoever thinks someone should make millions for voice-acting Galerion or Bal.

validifyedneb18_ESO

Sylvermynx wrote: »

I don't like VA period. Good, excellent or otherwise. I hear everyone inside my mind as I play. I do NOT want someone's else's idea of a voice to overwrite my own vision of what that person should sound like.

I actually DETEST the prevalence of VA in games. How I hear people (in my mind) is far more important than whoever thinks someone should make millions for voice-acting Galerion or Bal.

I agree with you for the most part, but while sometimes I want a rich and deep RPG like morrowind where I can read all the dialogue myself, I also sometimes want a nice chill RPG like skyrim where there is shorter dialoge but its read to me and I can lay back and listen. lol.

dazee

I mean if you don't like voice acting at all its understandable, but if you do like voice acting why would you hate decently done voice acting? theres so much truly bad voice acting in some games.

The only voice acting I dont want is player character voice acting. the silent protagonist is much more relatable becuase it allows you to project any voice or personality.

H3IIi0N

Nintendo has them all beat with voice acting. Characters who sound like deaf mutes making noises while you read subtitles

Sylvermynx

Sorry - as far as I'm concerned there is no excuse for VA in games period. Seriously.... they waste MILLIONS of dollars on VA. None of us "hear" the people as what the devs think is right.

Well... hmmm. Maybe I'm just way different there. Any dev-product VA stuff has never once been how I heard that voice in my own mind. So - for me, VA it a total throwaway - HUGE amounts of money spent on crap I never hear.

Lots of better places to spend that money.....

dazee

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Sorry - as far as I'm concerned there is no excuse for VA in games period. Seriously.... they waste MILLIONS of dollars on VA. None of us "hear" the people as what the devs think is right.

Well... hmmm. Maybe I'm just way different there. Any dev-product VA stuff has never once been how I heard that voice in my own mind. So - for me, VA it a total throwaway - HUGE amounts of money spent on crap I never hear.

Lots of better places to spend that money.....

Can always turn off voice acting. many people do like it and wouldn't like the game nearly as much without it. it adds to immersion as long as its not the player character talking.

Sylvermynx

Eh, I've had it turned off since day one. I just.... really hate it.

Player character VA IS the devil in a 3 piece suit. Serious. That's just - beyond ugly. How is anyone besides me going to think they know how my girl sounds?

validifyedneb18_ESO

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Sorry - as far as I'm concerned there is no excuse for VA in games period. Seriously.... they waste MILLIONS of dollars on VA. None of us "hear" the people as what the devs think is right.

Well... hmmm. Maybe I'm just way different there. Any dev-product VA stuff has never once been how I heard that voice in my own mind. So - for me, VA it a total throwaway - HUGE amounts of money spent on crap I never hear.

Lots of better places to spend that money.....

Right, but look at it this way, VA is cheaper than you make it out, a lot of people love it, and when the game first came out a bit selling point was the complete VA. If it sells it sells. And you can continue to not like it and keep it muted, but ultimately the creation of a retail product by a big company like Zeni (or Bethesda at large) is an exercise in marketing and budgeting. If they say games need VA, its probably because the marketing department say the investment will be worth the return.

Just an alternative perspective. Personally I think some games do voice acting superbly without it feeling like its limited the game at all while also adding tonnes of character and nuance. Divinity Original Sin 2 for example. ESO on the otherhand does rather leave a lot to be desired. If the alternative was a more skyrim-like RPG system than a linear tree with "feeler" options, I would have taken it any day. But lets be honest, we where never getting that, especially at launch.

rexagamemnon

H3IIi0N wrote: »

Having played through the vanilla main quest numerous times I think it’s safe to say the voice acting for Vanus Galerion is horrible. I’ve tried locating the actor responsible for this travesty.

Amusingly I can find almost every other voice actor but his. ESO should do like Destiny & completely redo his voice like they did Peter Dinklages bored reading of the lines.

“Travesty” 😂

Sylvermynx

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Sorry - as far as I'm concerned there is no excuse for VA in games period. Seriously.... they waste MILLIONS of dollars on VA. None of us "hear" the people as what the devs think is right.

Well... hmmm. Maybe I'm just way different there. Any dev-product VA stuff has never once been how I heard that voice in my own mind. So - for me, VA it a total throwaway - HUGE amounts of money spent on crap I never hear.

Lots of better places to spend that money.....

Right, but look at it this way, VA is cheaper than you make it out, a lot of people love it, and when the game first came out a bit selling point was the complete VA. If it sells it sells. And you can continue to not like it and keep it muted, but ultimately the creation of a retail product by a big company like Zeni (or Bethesda at large) is an exercise in marketing and budgeting. If they say games need VA, its probably because the marketing department say the investment will be worth the return.

Just an alternative perspective. Personally I think some games do voice acting superbly without it feeling like its limited the game at all while also adding tonnes of character and nuance. Divinity Original Sin 2 for example. ESO on the otherhand does rather leave a lot to be desired. If the alternative was a more skyrim-like RPG system than a linear tree with "feeler" options, I would have taken it any day. But lets be honest, we where never getting that, especially at launch.

Oy, that didn't work right for some reason, so edited.... weird....

You are most likely right. I'm.... an anomaly really. My girls don't have VA - because they're THEM.... or me.... or

Good lord. I'm - well.... I've been seriously having RL issues, and all that is making me - not post what I really mean.... or post something that.... seems okay.... until I read it again. Sorry. I think.... I need a vacation. For about a hundred years.

Hope I didn't make anyone think I actually had a clue here. Happy New Year anyway!