Stam warden - ZoS' favorite baby

Duukar

Advanced prey gives 3% damage (not weapon damage) bonus per ability slotted. Bird of prey gives minor berserk passive at 8% bonus damage.

To get a whopping 14% bonus dmg all a warden need do is slot Sub Assault and Bird of Prey.....

Sub Assault is cheap and literally the PERFECT burst tool plus gives major fracture. Perfect. Burst. Plus 3% dmg.

Bird of prey gives major expedition, major endurance and minor berserk passive. Plus 3% dmg.

Make your warden an orc. 18% bonus dmg now.

Top tier doesn't even begin to describe what ZoS has turned the stam warden into for pvp.

Too many tricks given to their favorite baby. Now we see BG rounds filled with wardens over performing.

Am I crazy or is anyone else noticing this?

Kadoin

Yes, you are crazy...

You will summon the Stam Warden Defense League at this rate!

Colecovision

I totally noticed. So I made a warden.

Duukar

Colecovision wrote: »

I totally noticed. So I made a warden.

So did everyone else! Lol? /cry

JumpmanLane

Duukar wrote: »

Colecovision wrote: »

I totally noticed. So I made a warden.

So did everyone else! Lol? /cry

Not me. I slotted stamina ravaging poisons and mopped those peasants lol. (Even at 10% they whine).

Hurbster

Well, we better ask the devs to nerf Sorcs I guess.

It's the only way.

Slack

I don't think they are overperformjng (and no I don't play stamwarden). Spin to Win is the main issue, take that away and most of those guys wouldnt be killing anything anymore

Finviuswe

My stamden doing well man

People called him, the Battleground beast. Hurt loads of people. lol

JobooAGS

Duukar wrote: »

Advanced prey gives 3% damage (not weapon damage) bonus per ability slotted. Bird of prey gives minor berserk passive at 8% bonus damage.

To get a whopping 14% bonus dmg all a warden need do is slot Sub Assault and Bird of Prey.....

Sub Assault is cheap and literally the PERFECT burst tool plus gives major fracture. Perfect. Burst. Plus 3% dmg.

Bird of prey gives major expedition, major endurance and minor berserk passive. Plus 3% dmg.

Make your warden an orc. 18% bonus dmg now.

Top tier doesn't even begin to describe what ZoS has turned the stam warden into for pvp.

Too many tricks given to their favorite baby. Now we see BG rounds filled with wardens over performing.

Am I crazy or is anyone else noticing this?

Orc passive doesnt affect sub assault or cutting dive

red_emu

Meantime, MagWardens sitting there like....wut?

technohic

red_emu wrote: »

Meantime, MagWardens sitting there like....wut?

Secretly from a pvp perspective; they're not bad either

Kadoin

red_emu wrote: »

Meantime, MagWardens sitting there like....wut?

You don't get it...

Stam can sprint longer, so it only makes sense that they are miles ahead of mag!

Duukar

JobooAGS wrote: »

Duukar wrote: »

Advanced prey gives 3% damage (not weapon damage) bonus per ability slotted. Bird of prey gives minor berserk passive at 8% bonus damage.

To get a whopping 14% bonus dmg all a warden need do is slot Sub Assault and Bird of Prey.....

Sub Assault is cheap and literally the PERFECT burst tool plus gives major fracture. Perfect. Burst. Plus 3% dmg.

Bird of prey gives major expedition, major endurance and minor berserk passive. Plus 3% dmg.

Make your warden an orc. 18% bonus dmg now.

Top tier doesn't even begin to describe what ZoS has turned the stam warden into for pvp.

Too many tricks given to their favorite baby. Now we see BG rounds filled with wardens over performing.

Am I crazy or is anyone else noticing this?

Orc passive doesnt affect sub assault or cutting dive

You are correct. Yet it will affect any other dmg ability stacking to an 18% dmg bonus except steel tornado.

When I did my testing the Orc bonus was either on or off depending on the range of the melee ability. Over 5 yards and it's off. Maybe this has changed.

Slack wrote: »

I don't think they are overperformjng (and no I don't play stamwarden). Spin to Win is the main issue, take that away and most of those guys wouldnt be killing anything anymore

It also works super well with 2h. Cast sub assault - stampede in with oblivion enchant with infused- dizzy swing or executioner while the sub assault pops. Execute. Profit.

It's the easiest burst to line up in the game and also one to the most damaging.

More easy mode play to appease the masses.

D0PAMINE

Can you really blame people after sustain nerf?

pod88kk

Kadoin wrote: »

Yes, you are crazy...

You will summon the Stam Warden Defense League at this rate!

We're here. OP how dare you?!

Bashev

You can add that sub will heal you too when the pet is unsummoned.

MLGProPlayer

If only magden got a fraction of that love. Magden is still the worst DPS class in the game by a country mile (a position they've held since they were released). They make magsorcs seem like BiS.

In fact, I bet ZOS nerfs magden next patch (again). This is what they always do when stamden overperforms.

Aedrion

You are not crazy. The setup you describe is very much meta and very much too strong.

coop500

Except ZOS actually likes stamblades more

Stratloc

Whether stamden is overpowered or not, your wording is just childish and symptomatic of these forums. ZoS' baby? I literally can't even.

Crixus8000

Stamden is very strong yes, but not op. I think they just seem stronger since more people are playing them this patch. Most stamsorcs I know switched to stamden since the nerf.

Stamdens damage is very telegraphed though so it's quite easy to avoid their burst.

Finviuswe

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frostz417

Umm that title actually belongs to the stamblade lol. All these abilities are nothing compared to something as stupidly strong as incap ridiculous damage, major defile, 20% extra damage done... yea lol, don’t forget it’s extremely cheap and nightblades have passives that make gaining ultimates a walk in the park
God tier sustain, check
Cloak, check
Amazing single target burst with incap/spectral bow, check
Extremely buggy hard cc that sometimes isn’t breakable and leaves you running in a single direction for 10’seconds like a complete idiot, check

Stamdens don’t even have a class cc... nightblades have 3.

Both are very strong but stamwarden holds a candle compared to the vastly amazing toolkit nightblades have.

max_only

No.

validifyedneb18_ESO

Idk, people always complaining about warden being nerfed to hell. But ill take your word for it and then follow by saying good luck getting that fixed, Zeni only nerf *** that doesn't need nerfs, things that are actively driving the playerbase away they like to keep as-is for extended periods of time.

MLGProPlayer

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »

Idk, people always complaining about warden being nerfed to hell. But ill take your word for it and then follow by saying good luck getting that fixed, Zeni only nerf *** that doesn't need nerfs, things that are actively driving the playerbase away they like to keep as-is for extended periods of time.

Magden is trash. Worst class in the game (has been since it was released last year). Stamden are the ones that are strong. Two completely different classes.

Sylvermynx

I have a stamden - I don't play her much, because my lag is so bad she doesn't land much damage (she's low level still - 20 I guess.... don't have my spreadsheet open right now). My tankden main is MUCH more hell on wheels, and far more likely to actually stay alive. Poor magden.... she's sitting there waiting patiently. Not sure for what. She's not speaking to me right now.

gamerguy757

Yep!
I have a Stam and Mag Warden and they SLAUGHTER.
Crazy heals, crazy burst, cheap ultimates, they rock.

Tryxus

technohic wrote: »

red_emu wrote: »

Meantime, MagWardens sitting there like....wut?

Secretly from a pvp perspective; they're not bad either

Yup, they got indirectly buffed thx to the Roll Dodge changes, which made Animal Companion skills more of a joy to use, and the speed nerfs which upped their snare and root game

MagDen's pretty gud right now

ezio45

you spelled stamblade wrong

macsmooth

Stam Wardens are going to be good Gina at Zos plays one from the nerfmire patch she stated it in the big thread from nerfmire, the developers will buff her

I asked what race she plays so I can prepare for the next patch but she never answered shame

Don’t get me wrong I love my stam warden and mag warden but yes the sub assault dawn breaker and spin to win can be annoying on every warden counter