Rimmen DLC Q1? Cyrodiil-based Chapter Q2? Putting the Pieces Together

Robo_Hobo

So, we got a new teaser today for the future story content, it's awesome! Here's the picture if you haven't seen it yet.

So Abnur Tharn requests our assistance. It's been awhile since we heard from him! Last we heard from him was at the end of the base game main quest where

He was said to have taken the Amulet of Kings and ran to Cyrodiil with it.

I'm sure it'll be interesting seeing what his plans are to end the Three Banners War...but what about the other hints we've had over the past months? For awhile, it was seeming like Elsweyr was a likely choice for the Chapter of 2019, with the Baandari crates, and Elsweyr mentions in Murkmire, but with Abnur being involved and the plot surrounding ending the Three Banners War, Elsweyr would be a kind of odd fit for that kind of story, wouldn't it? But that doesn't change the fact that we do have those Baandari crates datamined, and Elsweyr mentions in Murkmire, so maybe it's just Elsweyr Dungeon DLC's after all...but, then I remembered something.

In this time period, Rimmen is being ruled by Abnur's relative, Euraxia Tharn. She's actually the mother of Javad Tharn, who you may remember from the Reaper's March storyline. Also potentially in this time period, remnants of the Akaviri still reside in the city, after being pushed out of Cyrodiil some decades or more ago by the warlord Attrebus, one of the pretender-kings of Cyrodiil before the Longhouse Emporers came about. After being pushed out, they went down to Elsweyr in Rimmen, where they stayed until remnants of the Kamal Akaviri invasion (which happened just about a decade ago from the current year in ESO) linked up with them in Rimmen and then went on to try one last time working together to re-take Cyrodiil and the Empire.

...Except, that hasn't happened yet. Or at least, I can't seem to find any references in ESO of a recent attempt of the Akaviri of Rimmen to retake Cyrodiil after the Kamal invasion.

Here's an excerpt from the First Pocket Guide of the relevant matter:

Though ostensibly its own kingdom, Rimmen still pays tribute to the Mane of Elsweyr, from whose realm it seceded in CE812 during the Interregnum. Earlier, Akaviri refugees had fled persecution when the warlord Attrebus briefly aspired to the Imperial Throne. Attrebus, though he lasted no longer than most of the pretender kings of that period, thought he might rid Cyrodiil of the foreigners who had ruled it for the first half of the Common Era, and he drove the Akaviris past the Empire's borders into Elsweyr. The khajiit granted them asylum in the hills and steppes of northwestern Elsweyr, where they dwelt in relative seclusion until remnants of the Dir-Kamal resurfaced in Cyrodiil, seizing the Throne from Attrebus' successors. The Rimmen (literally, the "Rim Men," as the khajiit called them) joined their brothers to try to rebuild the Empire. This effort was doomed to failure, but not before the khajiit attempted to reclaim their lands in a series of bloody border wars.

I bolded the most important part. If that hasn't happened yet, and since the timeline of it is unknown, perhaps it could be an event that happens during the events of ESO? It would tie together the Elsweyr hints and the Abnur teaser, since Euraxia rules Rimmen at this time. Maybe Abnur is planning to use the Akaviri in Rimmen to try and retake Cyrodiil in the first place, and end the Three Banners War that way? It would be fufilling the lore of the event that has yet to happen.

The story could start with a Rimmen zone DLC in Elsweyr, and continue in a Cyrodiil-based Chapter (Nibenay or Colovian, idk).

Anyway, this is just a theory I've been cooking up since seeing that teaser. It could just be very well that the Elsweyr stuff is Dungeon DLCs, but I still find it odd that there are so many Elsweyr references if it's just for dungeons, something no other Dungeon DLC has had the treatment of beforehand.

There's also the matter of the symbolism with the stone tablet depicting a Dragonhead - but the tablet is broken in half. My guess is, it could be referencing a "Dragonbreak" event, as others have pointed out by now I'm sure, but besides that, I can't say much more on it right now, I don't know what the glyphs may be symbolizing. Maybe you do?

Aliyavana

Hopefully its Elsweyr related and hopefully the dragon on the glyph doesnt mean that its in skyrim because skyrim has been rereleased 8 times already. Dragonbreak symbolism is possible with the tablet literally depicting a dragon broken

Sylvermynx

Ro..... that's..... an AWESOME take. Now I could really go for that in a HUGE way.....

oopart

Been a while since I've been on the forums. Glad I came back though; Khajiit lore + Abnur Tharn? Sign me up. Also, I do think there will be some Dragon Breaking involved; fairly certain the runes behind the dragon are those found in Elder Scrolls. Exciting stuff, man!

James-Wayne

Aliyavana wrote: »

Hopefully its Elsweyr related and hopefully the dragon on the glyph doesnt mean that its in skyrim because skyrim has been rereleased 8 times already. Dragonbreak symbolism is possible with the tablet literally depicting a dragon broken

Yeah but I feel if Skyrim needs to be released again it might as well be in Elder Scrolls Online, at least finish all of Skyrim!

Zelos

They are ending the three banners war? Good no more cyrodiil pvp please too laggy:)

ArchMikem

Q1 isn't going to be a Zone, it's a Dungeon pack.

rexagamemnon

Ok you see two things here two pieces of a rune here, which tells me spellcrafting is coming! And you have a dragon’s head split in two, which tells me it could be a dragonbreak, maybe possibly. Cant say for sure. But im betting this year will be huge @ZOS_GinaBruno

Vanthras79

ArchMikem wrote: »

Q1 isn't going to be a Zone, it's a Dungeon pack.

Were's yer source?

ArchMikem

Vanthras79 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Q1 isn't going to be a Zone, it's a Dungeon pack.

Were's yer source?

It's the schedule that's been done so far since they set it.

Q1 Dungeon Pack
Q2 Chapter
Q3 Dungeon Pack
Q4 Mini Zone

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/DLC

MissBizz

ArchMikem wrote: »

Vanthras79 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Q1 isn't going to be a Zone, it's a Dungeon pack.

Were's yer source?

It's the schedule that's been done so far since they set it.

Q1 Dungeon Pack
Q2 Chapter
Q3 Dungeon Pack
Q4 Mini Zone

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/DLC

Where they got that info never actually stated one of the dungeon packs as dungeon dlc, it just said dlc. And hey, the game was sub only at some point.. and then 4 dlc per year.. then... Well you get the idea. Plans can change. The real source would be the article that I believe was by Matt about the time Morrowind was announced, to explain their new content cadence.

Faulgor

MissBizz wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Vanthras79 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Q1 isn't going to be a Zone, it's a Dungeon pack.

Were's yer source?

It's the schedule that's been done so far since they set it.

Q1 Dungeon Pack
Q2 Chapter
Q3 Dungeon Pack
Q4 Mini Zone

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/DLC

Where they got that info never actually stated one of the dungeon packs as dungeon dlc, it just said dlc. And hey, the game was sub only at some point.. and then 4 dlc per year.. then... Well you get the idea. Plans can change. The real source would be the article that I believe was by Matt about the time Morrowind was announced, to explain their new content cadence.

A new content Cadence
Because we will be regularly introducing Chapters to ESO, we are going to make a small revision to our content delivery cadence, starting this year. We will continue to ship quarterly updates to the game – each with a base patch that has all the balance, quality of life, and bug fixes that you have come to expect. Additionally, we'll have a DLC in the first quarter of each year, a Chapter in the second quarter, a dungeon-based DLC in the third quarter, and a DLC in the 4th quarter.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25913

Two dungeon DLCs last year were a deviation from their plan, not the norm.

Left4Daud

Always love hearing your thoughts, thanks for the read!

goldenarcher1

Well whatever it is,it hits the PTS on Wednesday 9th Jan.

SirAxen

goldenarcher1 wrote: »

Well whatever it is,it hits the PTS on Wednesday 10th Jan.

I think if it was hitting that soon we would know what it is by now.

opaj

SirAxen wrote: »

I think if it was hitting that soon we would know what it is by now.

Well, something is happening with the PTS on Wednesday (which is the 9th, not the 10th). A maintenance... but is it for the next DLC? Or something else?

RaddlemanNumber7

opaj wrote: »

SirAxen wrote: »

I think if it was hitting that soon we would know what it is by now.

Well, something is happening with the PTS on Wednesday (which is the 9th, not the 10th). A maintenance... but is it for the next DLC? Or something else?

It's just maintenance, not patch maintenance. It happens from time to time. Nothing to get excited about.

Based on what Rob Garrett said in his U21 combat update thread I'm not expecting PTS 1 for U21 until 21st Jan at the earliest.

Seraphayel

ArchMikem wrote: »

Q1 isn't going to be a Zone, it's a Dungeon pack.

Well the Q1 DLC wasn't meant to be a dungeon DLC though. They just did it last year and I found it to be very... lazy.

2019 is ESOs 5th anniversary and maybe they are up for something bigger this time. Maybe we don't get 3 DLCs this year but one DLC and a massive Chapter.

The timing is a bit off as the announcement for the Q1 DLC is quite delayed and late and the announcement for Chapter III is too soon now. I could see them fusing Q1 and Q2 DLC+Chapter into one huge update that might come in May or so. That's why they already started teasing. So nothing in Q1 but the massive content drop in Q2.

And I really hope it's Spellcrafting. After last year's disappointment when it comes to that...

RaddlemanNumber7

Maybe they're aiming at the day of the 5th Anniversary for the realease of this update - 4th April.

Seraphayel

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

Maybe they're aiming at the day of the 5th Anniversary for the realease of this update - 4th April.

Well you pointed out the obvious which I wasn't realizing until you said it *lol*.

I'm pretty sure you're right and the Q1 and Q2 contents will be fused into a big release on ESOs official launch day April 4th.

Jakx

That letter talks about peace for the three banners war. So its finally the end of Cyrodiil in a much different way than I thought? Best way to delete Cyrodiil, give it a lore reason.

Knootewoot

Jakx wrote: »

That letter talks about peace for the three banners war. So its finally the end of Cyrodiil in a much different way than I thought? Best way to delete Cyrodiil, give it a lore reason.

Looks like it that way. Sadly is, i only play PvP in cyrodill. I do hope a PvP instance will be kept. If not... well then it's time for me to move on.

BlazingDynamo

ArchMikem wrote: »

Vanthras79 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Q1 isn't going to be a Zone, it's a Dungeon pack.

Were's yer source?

It's the schedule that's been done so far since they set it.

Q1 Dungeon Pack
Q2 Chapter
Q3 Dungeon Pack
Q4 Mini Zone

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/DLC

Actually Q1 was supposed to always be a quality of life update.

menschikov2

When i unsderstod Masel Right we will get some more teasers in the next days(atleast he said that ZOS is sending a package with unknown Things in it) and when one Comunity Ambasador got such a teaser perhaps others will get more so we get the informations from all of them together.

Bruccius

I was considering Elsweyr ahead of time, imo, this just puts the nail in the coffin. I'd be surprised if we get anything else but Elsweyr at this point.

Tandor

BlazingDynamo wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Vanthras79 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Q1 isn't going to be a Zone, it's a Dungeon pack.

Were's yer source?

It's the schedule that's been done so far since they set it.

Q1 Dungeon Pack
Q2 Chapter
Q3 Dungeon Pack
Q4 Mini Zone

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/DLC

Actually Q1 was supposed to always be a quality of life update.

Finally sorting out the trading system would be a good quality of life update, not least if they coupled it with some major performance improvements for those who like to reside in Cyrodiil.

Seraphayel

Bruccius wrote: »

I was considering Elsweyr ahead of time, imo, this just puts the nail in the coffin. I'd be surprised if we get anything else but Elsweyr at this point.

What exactly does the teaser have to do with Elsweyr?

OtarTheMad

Based on this idea by the OP I’d say that we might be getting spellcrafting but more importantly we might be getting another alliance that fights in the war: Imperial Legion. War won’t stop just because a Tharn (or anyone) stands up and tells them to cut it out. They’d have to fight for their own throne.

Although does anyone remember that quest in summerset where that odd Nord wanted to talk to Ayrenn about peace in Cyrodiil? Interesting quest now with that teaser.

Kajuratus

Bruccius wrote: »

I was considering Elsweyr ahead of time, imo, this just puts the nail in the coffin. I'd be surprised if we get anything else but Elsweyr at this point.

Really? To me, this seems to be more confirmation of my opinion that we won't be getting an Elsweyr chapter. Looks like somewhere in Cyrodiil to me, the Nibenay Basin, or the Colovian Estates

lagrue

Jakx wrote: »

That letter talks about peace for the three banners war. So its finally the end of Cyrodiil in a much different way than I thought? Best way to delete Cyrodiil, give it a lore reason.

This would be an honest dream for me - especially if it resulted in us being crowned Emperor and getting the achievement/Trophy. I never gave a damn about PVP in this game and the one single trophy holding me back from my shiny 100% platinum is to be Emperor! So if they ditch cyrodiil, and make us all able to obtain that via the quest, I would throw my money at ZOS.

Right now Emepror requires what is literally an unhealthy, mentally and physically, requirement to achieve. This would be an ideal solution and would finally kill off the nightmare of Cyrodiil. Even if they just tick the achievement off; i.e. we get no skill line, title, or costume - I would be so okay with that. Just to have ESO on 100% I would feel great.

ChunkyCat

WHERE IS THE AMULET OF KINGS?!