Lakemire Xanmeer Manor

AefionBloodclaw
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So, as expected ZoS continue their obsolete and bad marketing strategies of only making this amazing house available for an extremely limited time. When are you guys going to stop doing this, and realise you can't make money off something which isn't available? I know there will be people who will want this house, but won't be able to purchase it, because of your absolutely unreasonable demands that they have to have the money within a strict time frame. Ultimately, this is just hurting your professional reputation, and turning other players off from purchasing anything from your store at all.
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Aefion Bloodclaw, Altmer Sorcerer
  • bharathitman
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    I am pretty sure that every company uses data in order to make sound decisions. You might feel that the marketing strategy used here is obsolete but obviously the data points in the other direction. ZOS is in the business of making money and they know that artificial scarcity works. Lot of people who’ are considering to purchase the manor will be forced to make a purchase decision sooner
  • AefionBloodclaw
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    Disagree, you're still not making as much money as you could be, if the house was available at all times. That's common sense, plus I've seen tons of people actually wanting to spend the money on houses they can't get. So the evidence points in the other direction. Also there are so many players angry at ZoS over their marketing blunders on these forums so I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong here.
    'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'

    Zephyrle Starbreeze, Bosmer Nightblade
    Aefion Bloodclaw, Altmer Sorcerer
  • B0SSzombie
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    Disagree, you're still not making as much money as you could be, if the house was available at all times. That's common sense, plus I've seen tons of people actually wanting to spend the money on houses they can't get. So the evidence points in the other direction. Also there are so many players angry at ZoS over their marketing blunders on these forums so I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong here.

    It's all about demand.

    If you know something will be extremely limited, the average person that is undecided about it will be more likely to make a snap decision and buy it. If it's available at all times, most people will just look at and say "Well, I can buy it whenever I REALLY want it..." It's all psychological.

    It works for Digital content, Collector's Editions, and even Girl Scout Cookies.
    Edited by B0SSzombie on January 4, 2019 12:57AM
  • AefionBloodclaw
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    Yes but there are more players that won't buy it than will buy it... so ZoS being part of a multi-billion dollar company could easily just make the houses available at all times and over time make more money than putting them up for only 2 days.
    'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'

    Zephyrle Starbreeze, Bosmer Nightblade
    Aefion Bloodclaw, Altmer Sorcerer
  • O_LYKOS
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    People might not be able to buy it. But once people do buy it. Decorate it. More people will want it. Therefore make sure the next time it comes available they will have the crowns for it.
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  • Jayne_Doe
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    First of all, the window to purchase this home is longer than some in the past. Tel Galen was available for only several days, whereas Xanmeer is available for TWO WEEKS. Hardly the "2 days" you claim.

    Also, they've brought back most of the houses at least once already, AND most of them were recently on sale for 30% off during their Black Friday sale. I strongly doubt that this month with be the only opportunity ever to purchase it.

    I would argue that they have looked at data and discovered that a longer window (early exclusive homes were only on sale for a few days) yields more sales. Heck Pariah's Pinnacle was on sale for an entire month when it was first introduced and has returned twice already. This past month, the Snowglobe home was around for a month. Two weeks is a shorter window, to be sure, but it's half a month, so plenty of time for most.

    Plus, many players have been waiting for this house, so I'm pretty sure most players who actually want to buy it have been saving their Crowns or took advantage of the recent sale to stock up on Crowns. If you didn't plan ahead, then you can get it next time it comes around.

    EDIT: Regarding Pariah's Pinnacle, it may be that the second time it came around was when it was on sale for almost a month and the first time was a shorter window. But, it's come back twice and then was in the recent Black Friday sale.
    Edited by Jayne_Doe on January 4, 2019 5:53PM
  • thumpthing
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    ...and of course, it doesn't go on sale until the 17th, so there's another couple weeks to scrounge up some crowns.
  • AefionBloodclaw
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    And yet, if you look at recent posts, including a poll that I saw, people's faith in ZoS has plummeted massively, especially in the marketing team. And Tel Galen has never come back, and that's the one I actually would've liked to get. There are plenty of posts about it if you bother doing the research.
    'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'

    Zephyrle Starbreeze, Bosmer Nightblade
    Aefion Bloodclaw, Altmer Sorcerer
  • zyntex
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    As other pointed out it is about demand. If you keep the house away for a longer time and peoples demand of it is getting higher and higher (they maybe saving up on it) you will have more sales once it returns.
  • ploddab16_ESO
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    Ahhh, here we go again.

    Don't you miss when a house was part of the game and purchasable for coin as a long term reward, instead of being a limited time exclusive you buy on top of it's DLC that costs more than the box price of the DLC itself? In fact, scrap that, for the price of these 'exclusive' houses you could buy ESO and all of it's DLC and still have about £20 to spare!

    If the house itself was 5000 crowns, perhaps. As it stands it does nothing but look pretty and possibly serve as both a bank, AH, fence, dye station and crafting center for players (provided they've paid through the nose for these privileges beforehand, of course) and direct them back to the crown store to get it's associated furnishings which are, that's right folks, timed crown store exclusives as well, that can only be bought in massive packs when you only really want the one item!

    I just wish that the folk who see this and go after it would pause, take a few deep breaths, and then ask themselves if a digital item that holds no real relevance to the rest of the game, other than serving as a way to avoid having to use cities for anything other than the guild stores, is actually worth the price of Skyrim Special Edition, Oblivion, Morrowind AND Fallout 4 combined.

    When does it finally reach the point when we say 'enough'?
  • AefionBloodclaw
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    So I've just been made aware of a visual bug that is present in the Lakemire Xanmeer Manor, and it hasn't been fixed. You can see this video for details of the bug:

    https://youtu.be/UYc-Jgdyo_M

    I have no idea if they know about this bug, because most of the time they seem to refuse to acknowledge bug reports, and judging by their history of not fixing bugs I highly doubt they will fix it before the manor becomes available. So now ZoS think its ok to sell houses that have massive visual glitches, parts of stairs that don't render properly? And they'll be making money off this? This is disgusting behaviour.

    See this thread for another previous bug which ZoS doesn't acknowledge or fix, and this one is present in the psijic villa:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/449428/psijic-villa-stairs-not-functional#latest
    'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'

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    Aefion Bloodclaw, Altmer Sorcerer
  • Turelus
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    B0SSzombie wrote: »
    Disagree, you're still not making as much money as you could be, if the house was available at all times. That's common sense, plus I've seen tons of people actually wanting to spend the money on houses they can't get. So the evidence points in the other direction. Also there are so many players angry at ZoS over their marketing blunders on these forums so I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong here.
    If you know something will be extremely limited, the average person that is undecided about it will be more likely to make a snap decision and buy it. If it's available at all times, most people will just look at and say "Well, I can buy it whenever I REALLY want it..." It's all psychological.
    This is literally how I make my purchases. I don't have the Alliance War mounts yet for this very reason. I do however own every Dunmer item which was limited time.
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  • E7216
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    B0SSzombie wrote: »
    Disagree, you're still not making as much money as you could be, if the house was available at all times. That's common sense, plus I've seen tons of people actually wanting to spend the money on houses they can't get. So the evidence points in the other direction. Also there are so many players angry at ZoS over their marketing blunders on these forums so I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong here.

    It's all about demand.

    If you know something will be extremely limited, the average person that is undecided about it will be more likely to make a snap decision and buy it. If it's available at all times, most people will just look at and say "Well, I can buy it whenever I REALLY want it..." It's all psychological.

    Doesn't work with houses, as everybody who can afford the high prices can get it through support, even years after its appearance in the shop.
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