Any ETA on update 21?

Nyladreas
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Starting to get real nervous, more and more each day.

Cause... Racials.
Edited by Nyladreas on January 2, 2019 7:43AM
  • SantieClaws
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    We won't know anything more traveller until they do a big announcement about it.

    Which is usually a few days before it goes on Test Tamriel. Only when we can test it ourselves do we usually see the detail we are most curious about yes.

    So go and keep yourself busy. Wait for the office to open. The coffee to start taking effect. Maybe today or maybe tomorrow we might know something.

    They will tell us when they are ready and not a moment before so no use tying your tail in knots about it no.

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  • JD2013
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    Not yet.

    We will apparently start getting info early in the New Year, so info will probably come within the next week or so.
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  • ArchMikem
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    Give it another week.
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  • ccfeeling
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    I am not worry what race passives are gonna changed but ZOS must need to provide race change token for all players all char in the game .

    This is our bottom line .

  • bharathitman
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    Based on the past announcements about Q1 DLCs, I would expect an initial announcement today or tomorrow (2nd or 3rd) with more details coming on 4th or early next week. It should be on PTS by next weekend or by Jan 15th latest.

    There should be no reason to worry as ZOS knows that this will make a huge player base upset if things are not handled well. Your argonian tanks and healers will not be useless suddenly, rather other races will be on par with argonians (mostly). I don't think this update is about nerfing races, but about allowing non meta races to be more meta
    Edited by bharathitman on January 2, 2019 9:00AM
  • Kalante
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    I hope argonian gets NUKED, such a carry race.
  • Vapirko
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    Kalante wrote: »
    I hope argonian gets NUKED, such a carry race.

    Lol. This is such a joke, how is Argonian a carry race? I would choose argonian last over any other race unless I wanted to make a magplar healbot which is only good for one thing.
  • Emma_Overload
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    Racials are the LAST thing I'm worried about. Only costs a few bucks to change races!

    LOL @ all the Argonian crutchers, though.
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
  • Kalante
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    I hope argonian gets NUKED, such a carry race.

    Lol. This is such a joke, how is Argonian a carry race? I would choose argonian last over any other race unless I wanted to make a magplar healbot which is only good for one thing.

    In pvp everyone who knows how to play and min max all changed to argonian because the resources you get from the pots passive is just too good. You don't even need to bother using tri pots, go all speed immovable or major mending pots without bothering about resources. The healing you get is also insanely good. In pve everyone I know it's an argonian tank too who are too cheap to buy decent pots and just use trash pots instead and in vet trials too.
    Edited by Kalante on January 2, 2019 9:28AM
  • Trancestor
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    Kalante wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    I hope argonian gets NUKED, such a carry race.

    Lol. This is such a joke, how is Argonian a carry race? I would choose argonian last over any other race unless I wanted to make a magplar healbot which is only good for one thing.

    In pvp everyone who knows how to play and min max all changed to argonian because the resources you get from the pots passive is just too good. You don't even need to bother using tri pots, go all speed immovable or major mending pots without bothering about resources. The healing you get is also insanely good. In pve everyone I know it's an argonian tank too who are too cheap to buy decent pots and just use trash pots instead and in vet trials too.

    Yeah but they have to play as ugly lizards tho
  • Nyladreas
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    I am not worry what race passives are gonna changed but ZOS must need to provide race change token for all players all char in the game .

    This is our bottom line .

    I don't see how this should be a thing If they decide to make racials impact our characters less.

    Even if not tbh. It's a game of freedom. Min maxing is purely user's choice. Unintended by Zeni.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Kalante wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    I hope argonian gets NUKED, such a carry race.

    Lol. This is such a joke, how is Argonian a carry race? I would choose argonian last over any other race unless I wanted to make a magplar healbot which is only good for one thing.

    In pvp everyone who knows how to play and min max all changed to argonian because the resources you get from the pots passive is just too good. You don't even need to bother using tri pots, go all speed immovable or major mending pots without bothering about resources. The healing you get is also insanely good. In pve everyone I know it's an argonian tank too who are too cheap to buy decent pots and just use trash pots instead and in vet trials too.
    I guess you missed the whole problem. Argonian racials were never even considered super strong or OP. Not even after Morrowind sustain nerf.
    It all happend after Sumerset update that introduced jewelry crafting and infused jewelry trait that when combained with potion cooldown enchants gives great resources management. It works on every race if you use tri-potions - not only argonian (seriously, try this setup on redguard, breton or altmer. - it is even more insane - basically you get argonian style sustain and you can use 2 dmg sets while retaining your racial passives).

    So if anything needs to be looked at / balaned it is either infused jewelry or potion cooldow enchants or just how they stack (maybe add diminish return if you use more than one ? IDK) .
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on January 2, 2019 10:01AM
  • Gnozo
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    Kalante wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    I hope argonian gets NUKED, such a carry race.

    Lol. This is such a joke, how is Argonian a carry race? I would choose argonian last over any other race unless I wanted to make a magplar healbot which is only good for one thing.

    In pvp everyone who knows how to play and min max all changed to argonian because the resources you get from the pots passive is just too good. You don't even need to bother using tri pots, go all speed immovable or major mending pots without bothering about resources. The healing you get is also insanely good. In pve everyone I know it's an argonian tank too who are too cheap to buy decent pots and just use trash pots instead and in vet trials too.
    I guess you missed the whole problem. Argonian racials were never even considered super strong or OP. Not even after Morrowind sustain nerf.
    It all happend after Sumerset update that introduced jewelry crafting and infused jewelry trait that when combained with potion cooldown enchants gives great resources management. It works on every race if you use tri-potions - not only argonian (seriously, try this setup on redguard, breton or altmer. - it is even more insane - basically you get argonian style sustain and you can use 2 dmg sets while retaining your racial passives).

    So if anything needs to be looked at / balaned it is either infused jewelry or potion cooldow enchants or just how they stack (maybe add diminish return if you use more than one ? IDK) .

    Sure its fun to burn potions like crazy but you suffer a lot by building for it.

    Juwelry traits gone cause they are infused and also juwelry enchants cause they have potion cooldown. Its not super effective but a fun way :)
  • Trancestor
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    Kalante wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Kalante wrote: »
    I hope argonian gets NUKED, such a carry race.

    Lol. This is such a joke, how is Argonian a carry race? I would choose argonian last over any other race unless I wanted to make a magplar healbot which is only good for one thing.

    In pvp everyone who knows how to play and min max all changed to argonian because the resources you get from the pots passive is just too good. You don't even need to bother using tri pots, go all speed immovable or major mending pots without bothering about resources. The healing you get is also insanely good. In pve everyone I know it's an argonian tank too who are too cheap to buy decent pots and just use trash pots instead and in vet trials too.
    I guess you missed the whole problem. Argonian racials were never even considered super strong or OP. Not even after Morrowind sustain nerf.
    It all happend after Sumerset update that introduced jewelry crafting and infused jewelry trait that when combained with potion cooldown enchants gives great resources management. It works on every race if you use tri-potions - not only argonian (seriously, try this setup on redguard, breton or altmer. - it is even more insane - basically you get argonian style sustain and you can use 2 dmg sets while retaining your racial passives).

    So if anything needs to be looked at / balaned it is either infused jewelry or potion cooldow enchants or just how they stack (maybe add diminish return if you use more than one ? IDK) .

    Just no...you lose 600 spell/weapon dmg and 3k magicka/stamina for that, not worth in any way.
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