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Stop the Fungal Grotto Exploit!
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Juju_beans✭✭✭✭✭
✭starkerealm wrote: »Do this instead....
1. Get Undaunted Daily Pledges
2. Get a random dungeon group.
3. Instead of porting to FG1 port to dungeon is one of that days Undaunted Pledges.
4. get random reward and the Undaunted Daily reward.
That used to be a thing. Weirdly, since this last Undaunted Celebration, it seems to be reversed.
That's because the event showed lots and lots of players how to use this exploit for easy daily pledge runs.
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RebornV3x✭✭✭✭✭
✭They need to get rid of the 15 minute penalty for leaving once they patch this outXbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.3 -
madarame_77✭✭✭I completely understand those who want to exploit it. I just hit lvl 45 on my NB healer crafter toon (with no gear sets ofc) so I queued for daily random to get some exp to lvl 50. Of course I was ported to WGT. Both DD's were also 40+ lvl. Group dps was like 8k. Luckily our tank was 810 so we finally made it through. But if the tank was also low lvl I don't see any other way we could get our daily exp. I support excluding dlc dungeons from daily random.Edited by madarame_77 on December 30, 2018 8:27PM2 -
Haquor✭✭✭✭✭Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »The best solution is stop putting random queuers in with people who are going for specifics
This bug has existed as long as the group finder so clearly they’re not interested in changing how it works. It helps groups that are incapable of a specific dungeon clear, or who don’t have the time to put toward a longer dungeon.
But as long as randoms get pulled into specific queued dungeons, then there’s two very different player types getting stuck in the same space, one type that is looking for a quick run for exp, and another that is after gear/pledge/dungeon quest.
These groups do not mesh well
I don't like it even when I'm running randoms. One of the nice things about queuing for a random is just that, it's random and not running the same dungeon over and over. What makes it worse is if I decide the leave the group I'm the one who is penalized for wanting to run what the system has assigned not those that used the exploit.
Yeah random dungeon would be great if it didnt continually throw me into moonhunter keep with light attack spamming high elf archers.
New dlc dungeons in group finder are like bloody resto staves in vma.
PLEASE add the quality of life feature to remove DLC from your random search. Even add greater rewards if you include dlc in your random or reduce base game random searches rewards. Whatever. Just give us the option.8 -
LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭They need to get rid of the 15 minute penalty for leaving once they patch this out
Yeah, time penalty is a good reason why so little ppl play tank too.
I much rather get a new group the moment I see group dps is trash, instead of spend 5 min figuring out which dd is worse.
The kick doesn’t even go through right away half the time, I have to waste more time convince the others.
Some times you get 2 potatoes and go into stalemate right away and pretty much will waste at least 15 minutes.1 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Yes, but its other reasons to do dungeons other than the random xp rewards, primarily pledge, gear and quest.MasterSpatula wrote: »I love that during the Undaunted Festival all the threads about this were "it'll go back to normal soon, stop complaining, people have a lot of alts to run through dungeons in a day" and now it's still prevalent and people are still finding excuses for doing it.
I mean, anyone who honestly thinks that the large number of those willing to exploit aren't also willing to push the exploit to its limits (to the point where a fairly benign exploit morphs into a system that punishes people for doing it right) should see me about a bridge I'm selling.
However this is during an double xp event so many do randoms to level, after the event the other reasons get more important.
But this can also be used to combine bonus xp with the other objectives but that is less likely.
Still its something who should be fixed.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Salvas_Aren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@Salvas_Aren
It is certainly not pointless and if you are aware of another exploit you are responsible to report it. It is only made difficult by those who choose to be cheaters and do not report their exploits. It even says in the ToS you are required to report it.
I refuse to take that much responsibility unless I get a fullly paid DAO.
Furthermore, at this moment it is not an exploit since it is not used as one. So - I don't see why I would be required to report future exploits rather than actual ones.
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starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Juju_beans wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Do this instead....
1. Get Undaunted Daily Pledges
2. Get a random dungeon group.
3. Instead of porting to FG1 port to dungeon is one of that days Undaunted Pledges.
4. get random reward and the Undaunted Daily reward.
That used to be a thing. Weirdly, since this last Undaunted Celebration, it seems to be reversed.
That's because the event showed lots and lots of players how to use this exploit for easy daily pledge runs.
This won't get you a pledge clear though. Pledges require you to clear specific bosses.0 -
Greystag✭✭✭✭This isn't really that big of an issue right now but it made daily pledges during the Undaunted Event so f-ing painful. I ran a random normal every day (or at least the days when the group finder worked) with each of my characters and 90% of the time it would go like:- We enter a Random dungeon as a PUG.
- Sorc TPs to FG1 without asking and waits there because he can't solo it.
- DK TPs after a while because he just wants to do the daily.
- I go in too.
- Templar asks us all to come back because he is doing the quest instead of the daily.
- I go back to help him. Keep in mind that the servers were drunk so loading screens were painfully long.
- Ends up being 2 groups of 2 doing 2 different dungeons. One player generally gets frustrated and leaves group or a discussion begins.
- Dungeon ends up taking over twice the time of the original dungeon because of a knobhead.
This hasn't really happened to me outside of the event though. The problem is that a ton of people became aware of this exploit during the event so they're trying to do it know, thinking it's an acceptable thing to do, especially without asking first.
Edited by Greystag on December 30, 2018 9:42PM| PC / EU |
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Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This isn't really that big of an issue right now but it made daily pledges during the Undaunted Event so f-ing painful. I ran a random normal every day (or at least the days when the group finder worked) with each of my characters and 90% of the time it would go like:- We enter a Random dungeon as a PUG.
- Sorc TPs to FG1 without asking and waits there because he can't solo it.
- DK TPs after a while because he just wants to do the daily.
- I go in too.
- Templar asks us all to come back because he is doing the quest instead of the daily.
- I go back to help him. Keep in mind that the servers were drunk so loading screens were painfully long.
- Ends up being 2 groups of 2 doing 2 different dungeons. One player generally gets frustrated and leaves group or a discussion begins.
- Dungeon ends up taking over twice the time of the original dungeon because of a knobhead.
This hasn't really happened to me outside of the event though. The problem is that a ton of people became aware of this exploit during the event so they're trying to do it know, thinking it's an acceptable thing to do, especially without asking first.
"You tried to cross the street during a parade"0 -
siddique✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »Pointless.
You know you are spending too much time in Alik'r when after that word you say out loud,
"Ten anchors drawn for each that is destroyed."
:S"Knee-jerk reactionist."
Lost Depths, 2015-2022.2 -
Salvas_Aren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »Pointless.
You know you are spending too much time in Alik'r when after that word you say out loud,
"Ten anchors drawn for each that is destroyed."
:S
Idk. I go there for shards, not for anchor madness. 1 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭sigh this is why we cannot have nice things. people who are doing this to random groups - i hope rng hates you once the patch hits and only gives you dlc/longest dungeons as a random.
we could have had it all, but you couldn't just stick to fully premade groups that all agreed on this, could you. you had to pull this nonsense on everyone whether they want to or not....
YOU are why this will no longer be a shortcut for the next event. so thanks, you a-holes
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SugaComa✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Please ZOS stop this,
Most of groups doing this after Undaunted Event and I am simply leaving that group and getting penalty for being honest player!
Kick the player who leaves or make them kick you by staying where you are and working through it just to be pain to them0 -
Daedric_NB_187✭✭✭✭✭Doesn't bother me. If a DLC dungeon pops and nobody wants to port to FG1, I just drop the group and re-queue. The people complaining about this must not be in a guild or have friends because this "issue" is so easily fixed without having to cry on the forums for Zo$ to nerf porting.2
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Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You know what would be really funny?
If ZOS "fixed" this issue by re-working Fungal Grotto so that it was BRUTALLY HARD!
Ha ha ha ha ha... you can't deny that's the kind of thing the devs would do #CAREBEARMASTERRACE7 -
Tsar_Gekkou✭✭✭✭✭
✭Do this instead....
1. Get Undaunted Daily Pledges
2. Get a random dungeon group.
3. Instead of porting to FG1 port to dungeon is one of that days Undaunted Pledges.
4. get random reward and the Undaunted Daily reward.
I'm sure someone will say that this is an exploit that should get people banned as well for bypassing the "random" part of the random dungeon for "undeserved rewards."Xbox NA healer main
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Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Daedric_NB_187 wrote: »Doesn't bother me. If a DLC dungeon pops and nobody wants to port to FG1, I just drop the group and re-queue. The people complaining about this must not be in a guild or have friends because this "issue" is so easily fixed without having to cry on the forums for Zo$ to nerf porting.
If you had friends or a guild, you wouldn't need to exploit the random dungeon finder.3 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Minoris_Impostor wrote: »All of us know about "The Fungal Grotto Exploit" when players just teleport to another dungeon and recieve daily reward for the "random" dungeon. It's annoying but not the whole problem. Real problem is that: we can't complete quests and pledges, because half-party always jump out and run FG. FG is fast, so if we even go further we can't recieve a reward because it provides to the part of the party who complete ANY dungeon first! I don't want to shout in capital cities chat "Anyone to pledges, maybe anyone who will NOT go to FG?". I just want to play easy and comfortable with normal in-game options like group finder. If the reward box is given for the finishing random dungeon, it MUST be random, not a Fungal Grotto. This problem become more irritating from day to day, IMHO ZOS must fix it as fast as they can.
Wow!0 -
YamiKuruku✭✭✭✭"lfm for random FG1" or "lfm for random xp pledges"
everytime i read this i want to slap those people XD-{ PC EU }-x Khazadaar > lvl50 EP | Khajiit magblade | Main&Master Crafter | Bloodletter
CP 810+
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xCassius Pavo > lvl50 EP | Imperial Necrotank | Bringer of Light< We are Undaunted >0 -
Oberstein✭✭✭Somebody explain how this exploit works i'll try it and decide whether it needs fix or not.History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.0 -
1. find a guild, do randoms/pledges/quests with 3 guildmates.
2. stop whining.
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MajBludd✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I agree. If you want to do FG1, go do it yourself. Don't join a random if you don't want to do a random dungeon.0 -
Oberstein✭✭✭I agree. If you want to do FG1, go do it yourself. Don't join a random if you don't want to do a random dungeon.
people need that exp reward.History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.1 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YamiKuruku wrote: »"lfm for random FG1" or "lfm for random xp pledges"
everytime i read this i want to slap those people XD
I don't because if you are going to do this, that's the way to go about it. get 3 more people who are on board. and people who queue up for specific dungeons or actual randoms.. can do so without inconsiderate a-holes springing fungal grotto on them.
I'm actualy one of the people who used to use group finder a lot more to level etc. I liked being able to get different dungeons and getting all those quests and just having change of pace. even DLC dungeons most of the time. having people just drop FG on your head - sucks. but at the same time, I have ZERO problem with anyone who does the fg thing.... IN A PREMADE THAT AGREED ON IT. people who are making premades in zone chat? GOOD FOR YOU. you are doing great. and those of you like the person above who apparently does that to randoms? I hope you get pooped on by a guar.dirty worthless casual.
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IndorilArwynLlethran wrote: »1. find a guild, do randoms/pledges/quests with 3 guildmates.
2. stop whining.
no. this is what people who want to random their fungal grotto should do.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***4 -
IndorilArwynLlethran wrote: »1. find a guild, do randoms/pledges/quests with 3 guildmates.
2. stop whining.
no. this is what people who want to random their fungal grotto should do.
This is what all players who want doing certain group content should do. And everyone will have what they want.1 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IndorilArwynLlethran wrote: »IndorilArwynLlethran wrote: »1. find a guild, do randoms/pledges/quests with 3 guildmates.
2. stop whining.
no. this is what people who want to random their fungal grotto should do.
This is what all players who want doing certain group content should do. And everyone will have what they want.
no.
if you want something specific like THAT from a group? YOU MAKE A PREMADE GROUP.
the groupfinder exists so that solo players can also run group content. and guess what? some of those solo players QUEUE UP FOR SPECIFIC DUNGEONS. they are using dungeon finder as intended. some inconsiderate *** flipping it to another dungeon on them without even asking if they are ok with it is a problem. a person queueing up solo and wanting to do the content they originally got dropped into? is NOT.Edited by Linaleah on December 31, 2018 11:48AMdirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***8 -
coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What I am worried about is this 'fix' stopping people from going to town to get repairs and sell stuff and then coming backHoping for more playable races1
