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ZOS Communication vs Class Rep

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  • Tandor
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    I'm not criticising the reps, or indeed ZOS. I have no problem with the present state of the game. What I am interested in is the motivation behind those who post this sort of topic, are they looking to improve the game just for them or for everyone else? Where exactly are they coming from with the sort of suggestion that the OP in this thread has come up with, for example? What would he like his "few dozen professional players" to be doing - trials, PvP, leveling up, dungeons? Raid, group or solo? Crafting? Housing? Fishing? Without that sort of information it's just another rant devoid of any context.
  • LeagueTroll
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    FakeFox wrote: »
    LeagueTroll wrote: »
    Reps are not diverse enough, we need:
    1. archer rep,
    2. hybrid rep,
    3. Dps with a shield rep,
    4. Tank with no shield rep,
    5. Stam healer rep

    You forgot fistfighting drunken nord rep and spellcasters don't need weapons rep!

    Lol
    Edited by LeagueTroll on December 30, 2018 2:26PM
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Tasear wrote: »
    ESO_Nightingale wrote: »
    you guys mustn't talk to the reps. you wouldn't be saying this otherwise.

    The reps should be the ones talking to them not other way around.

    *shrugs* i think they hear a bit from the forums and discord XD.
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on December 30, 2018 2:30PM
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  • Gythral
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    LeagueTroll wrote: »
    Reps are not diverse enough, we need:
    1. archer rep,
    2. hybrid rep,
    3. Dps with a shield rep,
    4. Tank with no shield rep,
    5. Stam healer rep


    There are no tanks or healer needed - if anything less of them are needed as that way they would at least represent the community
    what is needed is a fix this and feed this rep...
    “Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
    Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
    Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Well.... the difference is that those "top players" always have agendas relating to their own "top player" crap. Paid professionals don't. Generally. Yes, there have been times when those paid pros have.... skewed results. But that's not a general thing.

    I see it the other way around. Paid testers (who are top players) cannot understand the needs and wishes of anyone else but top players. Class reps can talk to everybody, and while I doubted at first that they would, several of them reassured me by talking reasonably about not-top-players and the way they understand their issues.


    Skoomah wrote: »
    Most forum posts are learn to play issues so they are inherently biased and the changes have slowly turned away one chunk of the player base after another.

    So you think the game should be fine tuned only for people who "learned to play", and ignore all those players who just want to have fun and who refuse to see it as a "learning session" ? I disagree with that - and obviously so does ZOS, because the playerbase would shrink by some 95% if they followed your "advice".

  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Tandor wrote: »
    I'm not criticising the reps, or indeed ZOS. I have no problem with the present state of the game. What I am interested in is the motivation behind those who post this sort of topic, are they looking to improve the game just for them or for everyone else? Where exactly are they coming from with the sort of suggestion that the OP in this thread has come up with, for example? What would he like his "few dozen professional players" to be doing - trials, PvP, leveling up, dungeons? Raid, group or solo? Crafting? Housing? Fishing? Without that sort of information it's just another rant devoid of any context.

    I think it takes some kind of life experience and maturity to realize that "not everyone is/thinks/lives/plays like me".
  • LeagueTroll
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    Gythral wrote: »
    LeagueTroll wrote: »
    Reps are not diverse enough, we need:
    1. archer rep,
    2. hybrid rep,
    3. Dps with a shield rep,
    4. Tank with no shield rep,
    5. Stam healer rep


    There are no tanks or healer needed - if anything less of them are needed as that way they would at least represent the community
    what is needed is a fix this and feed this rep...

    Stop the hate on stam healers
  • Iluvrien
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    Iluvrien wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    Skoomah wrote: »
    I want ZOS to use a fraction of their multi billion dollar business to pay professionals to play their game on live servers and give feedback that is unaffected by conflicts of interests.

    How will these people play the game? Your way, or in any or all of the other playstyles?

    Well considering that the viewpoints that seem to be in evidence at the moment are endgame or endgame... I would think that any widening of that pool would be a good start.

    I agree, but my suspicion is that whenever these sorts of topics come up - i.e. how to improve "the game" - they usually are based around the OP's personal game and invariably relate as you say to endgame and then probably the elite form of endgame that represents something like 5% of the playerbase.

    I would mail your community manger if you truly don't feel represented.

    I replied directly to a post made by Gina in the Class Reps notes thread. Almost 17 days ago. No response was made. Not by a CM and not by one of the Class Reps.

    They are aware that there are players who don't feel represented. The question is whether they can/will do anything about it.
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Skoomah wrote: »
    To be honest... I’d rather have direct communication from ZOS instead of unpaid class reps who semi-represent the player base.

    Just pay a few dozen people to play the game professionally and give feedback about the game on live servers.

    We barely get direct quality feedback from ZOS and it’s annoying how ZOS admittedly doesn’t know what it’s like to play their own game, cheaps out and gets a bunch of unpaid labor from class reps who inherently have all sorts of conflicts of interests whether merely perceived or real.

    Most forum posts are learn to play issues so they are inherently biased and the changes have slowly turned away one chunk of the player base after another.

    Just pay professionals who can dispassionately work on truly making a better game and who will keep there mouths shut at the same time instead of creating havoc and drama in the forums.

    Your threads looks fishy!

    Is this thread in favor of Class Representative or Bashing them?

    Looks like you are asking ZOS to pay Class Representatives. Indeed I am never in such opinion of ZOS to pay players or class representatives, they chooses to become but not ZOS insisted them to become one.

    To be honest... I’d rather have direct communication from ZOS instead of unpaid class reps who semi-represent the player base.
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on December 30, 2018 3:09PM
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