Open Letter

Chirru

To whom the shoe fits.
or
to all you paranoid players

I got three 370 chars

Now I decided to level a new Char as Master Craftsman/woman
Yes, I look for resources a lot because they are naturally so cheap to buy...haha.

I walk everywhere and that seems to annoy many players. You know...
harvesting crafting resources and walking of course equals 'Bot' naturally
in the minds of many players.

I am really getting sick of being accosted by paranoid players challenging me for a duel just to find out if I am a 'Bot' player.
I mean..Veteran players challenging a lowly level 18 Char stomping about where no one else harvests. Come on... Really?

Worse are those players who threaten to report me if I do not respond to their 'silly' requests to answer.

Yes, 'Bots' are a bother...certainly....but not every player who behaves differently from 'You paranoid players' is a bot.

please get of your 'playing different is bad' horse and leave me be. I am having fun leveling a pure Crafting Char.. .
it is a lot of work...you know.

Regards,
Kara Kitsune

Jaraal

Bot paranoia is real.

Hoolielulu

I'm convinced that people who do that have never actually seen a bot. Game needs a "middle finger" emote.

disintegr8

Most bots I've seen are level 4 or 5 and they hang out in groups. I'd just think you were new and ignore you.

Starlock

Well, are you wearing prisoner’s rags and a 2 handed nondescript greatsword with a character named with random garbled letters and numbers? Maybe reconsider that decision.

bongtokin420insd16

@Hoolielulu OMG ThIS!

Are you a bot? I'm going to report you.

"Flips the bird."

Is that a no? Cause im going to report you....


lolololololololololololololol

Skwor

Oooorrr, you do occasionally bot and this is pure deflection.

Random names, prisoner rags, walking everywhere are indicators of bot activity, taking offense to someone who is trying to improve the game by properly identifying and then reporting a bot seems a bit "snow flakey" to me.

Now do not get me wrong, if they are threatening you they are just plain wrong but those who politely inquire are really only trying to improve the community as a whole.

Elsonso

Chirru wrote: »

To whom the shoe fits.
or
to all you paranoid players

I got three 370 chars

Now I decided to level a new Char as Master Craftsman/woman
Yes, I look for resources a lot because they are naturally so cheap to buy...haha.

I walk everywhere and that seems to annoy many players. You know...
harvesting crafting resources and walking of course equals 'Bot' naturally
in the minds of many players.

I am really getting sick of being accosted by paranoid players challenging me for a duel just to find out if I am a 'Bot' player.
I mean..Veteran players challenging a lowly level 18 Char stomping about where no one else harvests. Come on... Really?

Worse are those players who threaten to report me if I do not respond to their 'silly' requests to answer.

Yes, 'Bots' are a bother...certainly....but not every player who behaves differently from 'You paranoid players' is a bot.

please get of your 'playing different is bad' horse and leave me be. I am having fun leveling a pure Crafting Char.. .
it is a lot of work...you know.

Regards,
Kara Kitsune

Why would someone think a walking character is a bot? Does not make sense. Tell them to come talk to me.

StytchFingal

I wear prisoner's rags sometimes just because I like them. And yes, I've been known to wear them while farming nodes. I've never been accosted and accused of being a bot, though. Maybe I need to start carrying a greatsword.

Tasear

I got accussed of being a bot twice. I was for not particular reason murdering murcrabs on beach. Another time this one guy keep looking at me as I farmed x small animal with my werewolf. There was another at dolmen too cause I was being lazy and just standing nearby to get xp.

Some people don't understand what bots would look like. The ones in shadowfen are pretty obvious.

Elsonso

Tasear wrote: »

I got accussed of being a bot twice. I was for not particular reason murdering murcrabs on beach. Another time this one guy keep looking at me as I farmed x small animal with my werewolf. There was another at dolmen too cause I was being lazy and just standing nearby to get xp.

Some people don't understand what bots would look like. The ones in shadowfen are pretty obvious.

Standing at a dolmen collecting XP was one of those times when ZOS was apparently actively booting players. Some of them were "bots", at least in the sense that no player was there while they were collecting XP. Some were even casting spells or doing light attacks on where the boss dropped on a regular timer. I reported them when I saw them. Mainly at the dolmen near Vulkhel Guard.

In response to this, if I had to be AFK while waiting for the next anchor to drop or boss to spawn, I would back way up so that I was not near the combat. I have pets, and I did not want them to become engaged while I was away.

Tasear

lordrichter wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

I got accussed of being a bot twice. I was for not particular reason murdering murcrabs on beach. Another time this one guy keep looking at me as I farmed x small animal with my werewolf. There was another at dolmen too cause I was being lazy and just standing nearby to get xp.

Some people don't understand what bots would look like. The ones in shadowfen are pretty obvious.

Standing at a dolmen collecting XP was one of those times when ZOS was apparently actively booting players. Some of them were "bots", at least in the sense that no player was there while they were collecting XP. Some were even casting spells or doing light attacks on where the boss dropped on a regular timer. I reported them when I saw them. Mainly at the dolmen near Vulkhel Guard.

In response to this, if I had to be AFK while waiting for the next anchor to drop or boss to spawn, I would back way up so that I was not near the combat. I have pets, and I did not want them to become engaged while I was away.

The dolmen issue was pretty bad back then but my example easy example of innocent do get caught up in the fire. On a different point dolmens do too little damage that it was easier to get away with dolemen xp farming and kinda still is. Then again comes back to champion system.

Perwulf

Yep I feel you, apparently wearing kellopi essence automatically turns you into a bot "according to players."

I want to share this insight since I once stalked players in craglorn and accidentally stalked a bot, not just one bot but two.

Harvester bots:

• They don't sprint
• They stop then jump randomly for no reason
• All interaction is ignored, no decline replies.
• AI like movement (When a player make a turn and you see another does exactly the same in perfect rhythm, it's a bot.)
• When stealing their node: They stop for a sec & they don't spit any reaction. (I did this for almost 3 hours while stalking them.)

Additionally, before you accuse someone as harvester bot; Try luring mobs near them and see if they chase the target then repeat this and see if they go on forever. I don't know if this will work since they are harvester bots not leather farmer bots but try it anyways. Video example below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x7sKH6k1So

phairdon

Wearing the kollopi essence disguise does not make anyone a bot. The player I've seen wearing the disguise is what someone else described as a node ninja. High speed build, try to make themselves invisible and steal nodes under other players noses.

russelmmendoza

Perwulf wrote: »

Yep I feel you, apparently wearing kellopi essence automatically turns you into a bot "according to players."

I want to share this insight since I once stalked players in craglorn and accidentally stalked a bot, not just one bot but two.

Harvester bots:

• They don't sprint
• They stop then jump randomly for no reason
• All interaction is ignored, no decline replies.
• AI like movement (When a player make a turn and you see another does exactly the same in perfect rhythm, it's a bot.)
• When stealing their node: They stop for a sec & they don't spit any reaction. (I did this for almost 3 hours while stalking them.)

Additionally, before you accuse someone as harvest there bot; Try luring mobs near them and see if they chase the target then repeat this and see if they go on forever. I don't know if this will work since they are harvester bots not leather farmer bots but try it anyways. Video example below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x7sKH6k1So

Lmao. Now I know what to do when I suspect botting activity.

Tyvm for your post.

Wish I can lure a wb to a bot lol.

Curtdogg47

Forum Bot?

DaveMoeDee

Roleplaying as bot

WitchyWarrior

I have been playing this game since the beginning and I hardly ever EVER ride around the map. I am almost always walking because I can't pass up anything.
I also zone out when running around harvesting so I have often times missed people trying to talk to me.
I am almost positive I'm not a bot.
BUT
Thank you for the new toon idea!
She will be a harvester & that's it. I will probably make a Sorc since don't bots have pets too?
People need to chill out with accusing others of things they have ZERO proof of. They report because of the way someone looks. Tsk Tsk.
Not to think of a bot like name.....

TempPlayer

If you are annoyed by the duel request, there is an option for auto decline duel. If they threaten to report you as bot due to you not responding, then try to group with them and said "make love, not war", or in this case, "make dual, not duel". Seem to work in the 60s.

BWS2K

Please do remember botting makes some people a lot of money and every time you publicly describe how you know a bot is a bot it's the same as asking them to make adjustments to not look like that.

That said, if someone confronts you and thinks you're a bot - tell them you're not. If they persist, report them for harassment. I walk a fine line when I go looking for bots but I also have a character literally named B'dub the Bot Reporter and make it well-known in the zone that I'm out and about. Most regulars know me and most new folks appreciate the efforts. But if someone is being a jerk about it to you... well, reporting works both ways. Let 'em have it. *shrug*

dem0n1k

use the add-on that allows you to bind emotes to keys & bind the /kissthis emote. def not a bot!

Elsonso

BWS2K wrote: »

Please do remember botting makes some people a lot of money and every time you publicly describe how you know a bot is a bot it's the same as asking them to make adjustments to not look like that.

That said, if someone confronts you and thinks you're a bot - tell them you're not. If they persist, report them for harassment. I walk a fine line when I go looking for bots but I also have a character literally named B'dub the Bot Reporter and make it well-known in the zone that I'm out and about. Most regulars know me and most new folks appreciate the efforts. But if someone is being a jerk about it to you... well, reporting works both ways. Let 'em have it. *shrug*

I have seen you in the game talking about bots. Not in the last month or two. This is hardly surprising, as we share no guilds or friends.

Contrary to you, I do not directly interact with the bots. I also don't announce that I am looking for bots. Sure, if someone is there running the character, they can probably see me if they look around, but I do not whisper to them. I do my passive bot test and if they fail (human), I am on my way. If they pass (bot), I report them, then I am on my way.

whitecrow

Hoolielulu wrote: »

I'm convinced that people who do that have never actually seen a bot. Game needs a "middle finger" emote.

There is a rude gesture emote. /rude I think.

Ryath_Waylander

People are just too darn lazy. If I want to take the time to report a bot, I will at least follow it for 5 or ten minutes to establish the route. Then I'll run ahead and take three nodes in front of it. A human will always, always divert when they get close and the node is empty. Only a bot will arrive, pause at the node for a second, then move on. I never assume that a runner is a bot, primarily because I farm at a gentle jog on foot. My reasoning is that if I take it easy, an empty node will have time to respawn before I get there, and I'm in no hurry. I've lost count of the amount of times a farmer goes streaking past me and, as I jog sedately towards the node he raced past, it spawns by the time I get there

Zacuel

Sounds like something a robot would say... Hmmmm... Gonna have to keep an eye on you.

*Adjusts tinfoil hat*

Tandor

The accusers are obviously idiots, anyone with half a brain knows that bots use speed hacks and certainly don't walk between nodes!

I was once asked if I was a bot. I was fishing, so obviously pretty suspect!

qbit

Chirru wrote: »

To whom the shoe fits.
or
to all you paranoid players

I got three 370 chars

Now I decided to level a new Char as Master Craftsman/woman
Yes, I look for resources a lot because they are naturally so cheap to buy...haha.

I walk everywhere and that seems to annoy many players. You know...
harvesting crafting resources and walking of course equals 'Bot' naturally
in the minds of many players.

I am really getting sick of being accosted by paranoid players challenging me for a duel just to find out if I am a 'Bot' player.
I mean..Veteran players challenging a lowly level 18 Char stomping about where no one else harvests. Come on... Really?

Worse are those players who threaten to report me if I do not respond to their 'silly' requests to answer.

Yes, 'Bots' are a bother...certainly....but not every player who behaves differently from 'You paranoid players' is a bot.

please get of your 'playing different is bad' horse and leave me be. I am having fun leveling a pure Crafting Char.. .
it is a lot of work...you know.

Regards,
Kara Kitsune

Yes, I've often mocked these kind of players multiple times on this forum. I stopped due to numerous mute/temp bans. Some of them actually follow these people around and make videos and come on here and name and shame. They have an addon that allows them to target players and report them with a button click. Effectively flooding ZOS's ticketing system and probably getting put on an ignore list. These people want to be judge, jury, and executioner. I've been told I should have my account perma-banned because I can engage in bot-like behavior as a troll on these kids. Which apparently makes me just as bad.

These kids are obsessed with it. It's apparently what they enjoy doing in the game rather than playing through the content.

qbit

Starlock wrote: »

Well, are you wearing prisoner’s rags and a 2 handed nondescript greatsword with a character named with random garbled letters and numbers? Maybe reconsider that decision.

He has every right to do that and doesn't need to change that at all. Listen to yourself. Bot hunters don't have a right to harass people and should be social banned a few times as a warning.

purple-magicb16_ESO

I've never had this happen to me but I wouldn't respond to coercive threats. If it did happen, I would likely report that player. This would serve two functions, to prove to ZoS that you are not a bot and also that this player is making frivolous and vindictive claims and harassing legitimate players. I never dialogue with these players, that's the kind of rise they're trying to get out of you.

Skwor

Tandor wrote: »

The accusers are obviously idiots, anyone with half a brain knows that bots use speed hacks and certainly don't walk between nodes!

I was once asked if I was a bot. I was fishing, so obviously pretty suspect!

You really are clueless. Most all harvester bots in craiglorn slow jog to each nod.

And yes there are fishing bots

Tandor

Skwor wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

The accusers are obviously idiots, anyone with half a brain knows that bots use speed hacks and certainly don't walk between nodes!

I was once asked if I was a bot. I was fishing, so obviously pretty suspect!

You really are clueless. Most all harvester bots in craiglorn slow jog to each nod.

And yes there are fishing bots

Craiglorn, eh? Can't say I've been there .