ESO Live

Lascelly

Will there be an ESO Live this Friday? It's the last week before Christmas so I was hoping there'd be some info and presents dropped on us before we're all hidden away in family stuff (or playing games).

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Aliyavana

They said next one is next year, too lazy to find the source rn look for it yourself if needed

Peekachu99

ESO Dead

Grimm13

They canceled what the last two ESO Live shows at last minute.

Reistr_the_Unbroken

Grimm13 wrote: »

They canceled what the last two ESO Live shows at last minute.

Why the heck did they do that?

Peekachu99

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Grimm13 wrote: »

They canceled what the last two ESO Live shows at last minute.

Why the heck did they do that?

Would you want to wade into a pitchfork wielding mob? I don’t blame Gina and Jessica for staying quiet. The developers broke the game, now they’re sitting in their ivory tower playing Marie Antoinette.

But no one wants their crappy cake (crown items, in this analogy).

Dracane

Wouldn't it be appropriate to give fans something for christmas ? While I don't believe nor celebrate such christian festivities, it would be a good opportunity. To surprise us with something, perhaps regarding the january update.

Same goes for Bethesda by the way. Some Elder Scrolls Blades footage, for me and Alino ? (The only 2 people being active on the TES Blades forum)

Peekachu99

Dracane wrote: »

Wouldn't it be appropriate to give fans something for christmas ? While I don't believe nor celebrate such christian festivities, it would be a good opportunity. To surprise us with something, perhaps regarding the january update.

Same goes for Bethesda by the way. Some Elder Scrolls Blades footage, for me and Alino ? (The only 2 people being active on the TES Blades forum)

They’ll do the “Year Ahead” post this week or next. But that’s about it till 2019. Was a pretty bad year for the game, tbh. Nothing surprising or good aside from costuming. Summerset was a beautiful dud. I needn’t go into what the last two DLCs were probably like. Hopefully 2019 is better. They’d have to try to make it worse, though.

Lascelly

Yeah honestly i’d even take a small stream of randomness like when they decorated that Christmas tree one year. Just something to show the community they’re alive and something for everyone to have fun with for the holidays. Would brighten the mood a bit.

Dracane

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Wouldn't it be appropriate to give fans something for christmas ? While I don't believe nor celebrate such christian festivities, it would be a good opportunity. To surprise us with something, perhaps regarding the january update.

Same goes for Bethesda by the way. Some Elder Scrolls Blades footage, for me and Alino ? (The only 2 people being active on the TES Blades forum)

They’ll do the “Year Ahead” post this week or next. But that’s about it till 2019. Was a pretty bad year for the game, tbh. Nothing surprising or good aside from costuming. Summerset was a beautiful dud. I needn’t go into what the last two DLCs were probably like. Hopefully 2019 is better. They’d have to try to make it worse, though.

That's for sure. Patch wise, 2019 was the worst so far and Nerfmire has totally destroyed my entire pvp capbilities. I haven't played pvp since and have hidden myself in pve activities.

Still, Zenimax shouldn't turn into a shell now. Just because something doesn't go perfectly, that's no justification for going completely silent and dead. It's within their power alone, to revert Nerfmire changes and make the game fun again. They must realize, that with their destructive changes, all they achieve is making the game less fun and classes less appealing.

Jameliel

Would be nice to see them go into the Vivec campaign during primetime and play awhile.

Suddwrath

I think they need to realize it's almost like being in a relationship:

There will come times when we will get upset and voice our frustrations. When that happens, ZOS will mostly have two options:

1. Patiently listen to the feedback, acknowledge and validate the frustration, and then work to mend the issues.
2. Go defensive, put up walls, and go silent.

Option #2 usually just leads to more frustration on top of what was causing the original frustration.

Dracane

SaltySudd wrote: »

I think they need to realize it's almost like being in a relationship:

There will come times when we will get upset and voice our frustrations. When that happens, ZOS will mostly have two options:

1. Patiently listen to the feedback, acknowledge and validate the frustration, and then work to mend the issues.
2. Go defensive, put up walls, and go silent.

Option #2 usually just leads to more frustration on top of what was causing the original frustration.

Option number 2 is the prefered option though and the one that has been choosen since the beginning of the company.
It will never change.

maboleth

Didn't some of you threat to delete/sell your account(s), never to return here? Sigh. On the other hand, it's great that people are sticking to ESO even when moaning and cursing.

Personally, this ESO year was pretty smooth with occasional bump here and there but enjoyable nonetheless. Some Patch changes were unpopular but needed and I expect them to further iron them out. All DLCs were beautiful and since CWC they are getting better and better.

I do hope ZOS/Bethesda would go into public with more detail and enthusiasm.

Elsonso

I am always curious as to why they cancel ESO Live so often. It is like they really don't want to do it, but feel like it is something they grudgingly have to do. If ESO Live were important to them, one would happen on a regular basis, canceled only for exceptional reasons.

Conclusion: ESO Live is not important to them. We need to get over it.

Recette

The thing is, it would be nice to have at least a basic idea about what they are planning to do with the game, hence why ESO Live is so important.

While I consider the game to be fine in PvE activities, at least the ones I participate in, almost everything I do in PvP has been nerfed into being much less fun than it used to be, both individually when it is just me as well as when we are playing as a team with builds to complement each other. Constantly being hit by the nerfbat and having staples of your playstyle turned into hollow shells of what they used to be is very detrimental to the enjoyment of the game as a whole, and I woudld really like to see where they are going with adressing the issues the Murkmire patch has brought to the game.

mateosalvaje

I really like ESO Live, and it makes me sad when people berate for things Jess and Gina have no control over. I just hope they're okay.

wenchmore420b14_ESO

lordrichter wrote: »

I am always curious as to why they cancel ESO Live so often. It is like they really don't want to do it, but feel like it is something they grudgingly have to do. If ESO Live were important to them, one would happen on a regular basis, canceled only for exceptional reasons.

Conclusion: ESO Live is not important to them. We need to get over it.

They used to be EVERY two weeks, except for holidays.
And ESO Live USED to be so much fun to watch. Guest Devs, Community Guild Events Calendar, Fan Art, Q&A about fixes etc, Lore Time w/ Lawrence Schick, Devs playing new content, etc..
The very first one was Sept 23, 2014. They ran regularly till late 2016, then kinda slowed down, and now 2018 very few at all.
What a shame.
For those that never got to see ESO-Live in it's good days, here in ESO Live #2. (The very first one had technical issues...Lol).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiF4ylBz0b0&list=PL4tB6flpmULi4KhRolY9a41sIUs1mfrEk&index=37

Side Note: Also miss the "Year Ahead" with Paul and Matt...

Suddwrath

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

The very first one was Sept 23, 2014. They ran regularly till late 2016, then kinda slowed down, and now 2018 very few at all.
What a shame.

Between this and the combat updates disappearing, it almost makes me wonder if some sort of restructuring occurred within ZOS or if at some point they just decided to decrease the communication with the community.

Dracane

SaltySudd wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

The very first one was Sept 23, 2014. They ran regularly till late 2016, then kinda slowed down, and now 2018 very few at all.
What a shame.

Between this and the combat updates disappearing, it almost makes me wonder if some sort of restructuring occurred within ZOS or if at some point they just decided to decrease the communication with the community.

It seems they do this because they are slowly abandoning eso, in a way that they invest less and less time and effort into it.
When I see all the masses of players, I doubt eso is doing poorly or that they will end it any time soon. But it's clear there are very very few ressources being put into eso anymore and Gina Bruno has proven that some time ago.

Where she admitted, they simply don't have the ressources to be more active. I can't remember the exact scenario anymore though.

Elsonso

SaltySudd wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

The very first one was Sept 23, 2014. They ran regularly till late 2016, then kinda slowed down, and now 2018 very few at all.
What a shame.

Between this and the combat updates disappearing, it almost makes me wonder if some sort of restructuring occurred within ZOS or if at some point they just decided to decrease the communication with the community.

Decrease? I'm still waiting for the increase!

Darkhorse1975

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

I am always curious as to why they cancel ESO Live so often. It is like they really don't want to do it, but feel like it is something they grudgingly have to do. If ESO Live were important to them, one would happen on a regular basis, canceled only for exceptional reasons.

Conclusion: ESO Live is not important to them. We need to get over it.

They used to be EVERY two weeks, except for holidays.
And ESO Live USED to be so much fun to watch. Guest Devs, Community Guild Events Calendar, Fan Art, Q&A about fixes etc, Lore Time w/ Lawrence Schick, Devs playing new content, etc..
The very first one was Sept 23, 2014. They ran regularly till late 2016, then kinda slowed down, and now 2018 very few at all.
What a shame.
For those that never got to see ESO-Live in it's good days, here in ESO Live #2. (The very first one had technical issues...Lol).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiF4ylBz0b0&list=PL4tB6flpmULi4KhRolY9a41sIUs1mfrEk&index=37

Side Note: Also miss the "Year Ahead" with Paul and Matt...

I have these same feels as Lord and Wench. ESO Live contributes to breathing life into the game and Jessica and Gina do a great job, so show cancellations or periods of absence is palpable.

crjs1

Dracane wrote: »

SaltySudd wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

The very first one was Sept 23, 2014. They ran regularly till late 2016, then kinda slowed down, and now 2018 very few at all.
What a shame.

Between this and the combat updates disappearing, it almost makes me wonder if some sort of restructuring occurred within ZOS or if at some point they just decided to decrease the communication with the community.

It seems they do this because they are slowly abandoning eso, in a way that they invest less and less time and effort into it.
When I see all the masses of players, I doubt eso is doing poorly or that they will end it any time soon. But it's clear there are very very few ressources being put into eso anymore and Gina Bruno has proven that some time ago.

Where she admitted, they simply don't have the ressources to be more active. I can't remember the exact scenario anymore though.

I don’t disagree at all - it certainly feels like less resource is going into the game and definitely less communication, but where did Gina prove less resources were going into ESO?

Tasear

crjs1 wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

SaltySudd wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

The very first one was Sept 23, 2014. They ran regularly till late 2016, then kinda slowed down, and now 2018 very few at all.
What a shame.

Between this and the combat updates disappearing, it almost makes me wonder if some sort of restructuring occurred within ZOS or if at some point they just decided to decrease the communication with the community.

It seems they do this because they are slowly abandoning eso, in a way that they invest less and less time and effort into it.
When I see all the masses of players, I doubt eso is doing poorly or that they will end it any time soon. But it's clear there are very very few ressources being put into eso anymore and Gina Bruno has proven that some time ago.

Where she admitted, they simply don't have the ressources to be more active. I can't remember the exact scenario anymore though.

I don’t disagree at all - it certainly feels like less resource is going into the game and definitely less communication, but where did Gina prove less resources were going into ESO?

It a quote that was taken out context from long ago. They have amazing plans for ESO but they still human. I think commicating with community is a bit under undervalued but game over years I seen improvements.

Cpt_Teemo

SaltySudd wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

The very first one was Sept 23, 2014. They ran regularly till late 2016, then kinda slowed down, and now 2018 very few at all.
What a shame.

Between this and the combat updates disappearing, it almost makes me wonder if some sort of restructuring occurred within ZOS or if at some point they just decided to decrease the communication with the community.

Could also be paying employee's less too

Dracane

Tasear wrote: »

crjs1 wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

SaltySudd wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

The very first one was Sept 23, 2014. They ran regularly till late 2016, then kinda slowed down, and now 2018 very few at all.
What a shame.

Between this and the combat updates disappearing, it almost makes me wonder if some sort of restructuring occurred within ZOS or if at some point they just decided to decrease the communication with the community.

It seems they do this because they are slowly abandoning eso, in a way that they invest less and less time and effort into it.
When I see all the masses of players, I doubt eso is doing poorly or that they will end it any time soon. But it's clear there are very very few ressources being put into eso anymore and Gina Bruno has proven that some time ago.

Where she admitted, they simply don't have the ressources to be more active. I can't remember the exact scenario anymore though.

I don’t disagree at all - it certainly feels like less resource is going into the game and definitely less communication, but where did Gina prove less resources were going into ESO?

It a quote that was taken out context from long ago. They have amazing plans for ESO but they still human. I think commicating with community is a bit under undervalued but game over years I seen improvements.

As I said, I can not remember the exact circumstances anymore. But I believe it had something to do with communication.

I also think ESO has improved and has become richer. They really did a great job.
But the combat aspect has become worse and worse and worse and to me, combat is the main thing about games. Balance and joy is important, none of it exists in eso at this point. For me anyway.

I feel like everything that is fun, beloved and used by people, is getting destroyed just to bully us away and prevent us from playing the game. I honestly believe they don't want us vocal and veteran players. We ask too many questions and have opinions. They seem to prefer silent cash cows that ask no questions and don't even notice combat changes and thus, don't complain.

Salvas_Aren

In another thread of this topic one mentioned the possibility that they fear Fallout 76 bashing.

Being afraid of this shows us that they have kept at least a little bit of their sense for reality.

Grimm13

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

In another thread of this topic one mentioned the possibility that they fear Fallout 76 bashing.

Being afraid of this shows us that they have kept at least a little bit of their sense for reality.

Now that is just ridiculous. Both are Bethesda products but it ends there as Zenimax Online has nothing to do with it. It's easy for them to deflect those people with the facts.

Diminish

lordrichter wrote: »

I am always curious as to why they cancel ESO Live so often. It is like they really don't want to do it, but feel like it is something they grudgingly have to do. If ESO Live were important to them, one would happen on a regular basis, canceled only for exceptional reasons.

Conclusion: ESO Live is not important to them. We need to get over it.

It really shouldn't surprise you... what are they going to talk about? How the game is a complete mess? Their intentions to fix the *** that has plagued the game (sometimes for years on end)? What kind of new broken stuff we get to look forward to, that will also break existing stuff even further? Their butchering intentions of further classes? New crown store items ? I mean, there isn't much positive to look forward to knowing the history/track record. No way I would participate in ESO live as an employee of ZoS.