vMA on Magicka Warden, how hard can it be? (+Full Video (606.5k+))

BlackStormX

So I decided to return to Maelstrom after a little break, and decided to take to recording after a long time, and first idea was, how hard can it be on Magicka Warden? Full score runs are a rarity unfortunately, but I decided to do just that, so hopefully you'll like it and maybe learn some strategies I've been using personally. Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh8KXy4sOXI&t

Haquor

Solid. Wd.

Banana

Im guessing youve already done it with a broom and bucket

BlackStormX

Banana wrote: »

Im guessing youve already done it with a broom and bucket

Actually I did that one about 2 years ago, give or take

Ciovala

Yeah it is pretty solid for vma. Good survivability and whilst dps isn’t as high as other magicka classes you don’t need it to be very high for vma. I usually bring the bear, but might try your skill load out.

BlackStormX

Try it, i don't trust bear, destro ultimate just beats it

MooseKnuckles88

What is your gear and champion points on your magden? Right now I'm using plague DR weapons/jewelry, necro, and shadowrend monster and stuck on the final boss, final fight, final phase lol. I can't seem to get him down past that last 150k health there's just too much crap going on that my character just gets over run despite using every sigil available in the final phase.

BlackStormX

MooseKnuckles88 wrote: »

What is your gear and champion points on your magden? Right now I'm using plague DR weapons/jewelry, necro, and shadowrend monster and stuck on the final boss, final fight, final phase lol. I can't seem to get him down past that last 150k health there's just too much crap going on that my character just gets over run despite using every sigil available in the final phase.

Everything is on youtube description page. Read it.

MooseKnuckles88

I'm trying to clear for the first time, so I dont have any maelstrom weapons atm. I do have a regular inferno asylum staff though. I can't melt past the mechanics like the video which is making this agonizingly painful atm lol. I've gotten to the third phase of the final boss fight many times but just can't seem to kill him fast enough despite using all the sigils that I saved for the end. Lol :,(

AlienatedGoat

Well done OP. Haven't done vMA on magden since Morrowind, might give it a try. Looks fun!

firedrgn

BlackStormX wrote: »

So I decided to return to Maelstrom after a little break, and decided to take to recording after a long time, and first idea was, how hard can it be on Magicka Warden? Full score runs are a rarity unfortunately, but I decided to do just that, so hopefully you'll like it and maybe learn some strategies I've been using personally. Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh8KXy4sOXI&t

Well looks like you have a really good memory and are very proactive . Im seeing stuff die as soon as it spawns that i run in circles killing.
And you have good dps.

I am pretty sure the deadroth didnt even spwan on the first phase of last boss your so quick.

Great job.

BlackStormX

MooseKnuckles88 wrote: »

I'm trying to clear for the first time, so I dont have any maelstrom weapons atm. I do have a regular inferno asylum staff though. I can't melt past the mechanics like the video which is making this agonizingly painful atm lol. I've gotten to the third phase of the final boss fight many times but just can't seem to kill him fast enough despite using all the sigils that I saved for the end. Lol :,(

If you don't have Maelstrom Lightning or Inferno staff, what i recommend doing with your setup is to use 5 x Mother's Sorrow (3 jewelry pieces and 2 body), 5 x julianos (3 body pieces and front/backbar staves to ensure you have 5 piece bonus active at all times) and a monster set of choice. For the monster set you can use Valkyn Skoria, as it adds some health and good for damage as well, or you can use 2 separate pieces, for example, Valkyn + Ilambris, or something else.

Edit: Just a quick note, the setup I use in the video was just an experiment, and is not what I use now. When I'll have enough patience to record another run, I'll do it with the current setup, and of course there will be runs on other classes as well ^^

NocturnalSonata

MooseKnuckles88 wrote: »

I'm trying to clear for the first time, so I dont have any maelstrom weapons atm. I do have a regular inferno asylum staff though. I can't melt past the mechanics like the video which is making this agonizingly painful atm lol. I've gotten to the third phase of the final boss fight many times but just can't seem to kill him fast enough despite using all the sigils that I saved for the end. Lol :,(

the final stage is really not about dps. I struggled running my standard glass cannon, so i went tankier HA build (plague doctor+Skoria+mothers sorrow) for final phase, pulling only about 15k dps. The trick i found was to save my ultimate, kiting the adds and other craziness and try group it around the boss then drop the destruction ultimate at the very last phase, when the boss was around 30% health. It helps to keep an eye on what happens after the crystal phase, as that timing made all the difference for me. GL

Nice vid OP.

Faulgor

Magden is my favourite class to run vma with. You're basically guaranteed a spot on the ladder and it's super easy.
I used to run 5 Julianos, 3 WIllpower, Iceheart + MA/Asylum staff.

GrumpyDuckling

firedrgn wrote: »

BlackStormX wrote: »

So I decided to return to Maelstrom after a little break, and decided to take to recording after a long time, and first idea was, how hard can it be on Magicka Warden? Full score runs are a rarity unfortunately, but I decided to do just that, so hopefully you'll like it and maybe learn some strategies I've been using personally. Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh8KXy4sOXI&t

Well looks like you have a really good memory and are very proactive . Im seeing stuff die as soon as it spawns that i run in circles killing.
And you have good dps.

I am pretty sure the deadroth didnt even spwan on the first phase of last boss your so quick.

Great job.

This is what annoys me about VMA. It's so much about memorizing spawns and it overly-rewards DPS and killing enemies as they spawn. The first time I ran VMA it was heart-pounding excitement because I went in blind, but now it's so boring and scripted.

You're right though, OP has this down and it's impressive to watch someone with such tight control.

MooseKnuckles88

I appreciate the added advice, last night I finally cleared it. Was definitely no score run for me, but was pretty stoked afterwards.

I went with 5pc julianos (armor), 5pc Necropotence(weapons infused/jewelry spell dmg glyphs on jewelry), and 2pc shadowrend. I changed my mundus to Apprentice (at this point my character had about +3100k in spell damage lol), I had the Mage active for most of the arena prior to the last arena. My blue CP was 31 in elfborn, 64 elemental expert, 49 spell erosion, 9 staff expert, 56 in MAA, 61 Thaum. I'm not even completely sure this cp placement is even optimized in the way I used it, but I did have quite a few different skills slotted.

I brought the bear out for the final fight again and gave it another shot and was pretty shocked I got it done with the bear slotted over the destro ult. Perhaps my timing was terrible with the way I was grabbing the sigils or maybe I was more proactive in paying attention to the mechs there. Prior to the final boss fight in MA, I was using 5pc plague doctor weapons and jewelry and 5pc Necropotence armor in all the other arenas. The final boss ice phase was giving me a lot of trouble for a while too, everything else wasn't nearly as bad for me at least.

BlackStormX

MooseKnuckles88 wrote: »

I appreciate the added advice, last night I finally cleared it. Was definitely no score run for me, but was pretty stoked afterwards.

I went with 5pc julianos (armor), 5pc Necropotence(weapons infused/jewelry spell dmg glyphs on jewelry), and 2pc shadowrend. I changed my mundus to Apprentice (at this point my character had about +3100k in spell damage lol), I had the Mage active for most of the arena prior to the last arena. My blue CP was 31 in elfborn, 64 elemental expert, 49 spell erosion, 9 staff expert, 56 in MAA, 61 Thaum. I'm not even completely sure this cp placement is even optimized in the way I used it, but I did have quite a few different skills slotted.

I brought the bear out for the final fight again and gave it another shot and was pretty shocked I got it done with the bear slotted over the destro ult. Perhaps my timing was terrible with the way I was grabbing the sigils or maybe I was more proactive in paying attention to the mechs there. Prior to the final boss fight in MA, I was using 5pc plague doctor weapons and jewelry and 5pc Necropotence armor in all the other arenas. The final boss ice phase was giving me a lot of trouble for a while too, everything else wasn't nearly as bad for me at least.

I completely forgot to mention the mundus. There are 2 options really. If you're new to vMA, you can go with Lord, as it gives you additional health, but, if you're in need of damage, you should always go with lover, as some bosses and adds have 18.2k resistances.
Resistances of mobs are as follows: (Credit for calculation goes to SUPERNATURAL)

STAGE 1 RESISTANCES

SCAMP: 9.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
CLANNFEAR: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
SEDUCER DARKFIRE: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
SEDUCER DARKBOW: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
SEDUCER KNIGHT: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
DAEDROTH: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
BONE COLOSSUS: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
FLESH ATRONACH: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
MAXUS THE MANY: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
MAXUS MILITANT 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL

STAGE 2 RESISTANCES

DWARVEN SPIDER: 9.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
CLOCKWORK SENTRY: 9.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
DWARVEN SPHERE: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
DWARVEN CENTURION: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
CENTURION CHAMPIONS: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL

STAGE 3 RESISTANCES

STRANGLER: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
WARRIOR THRALL: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
BRUTE THRALL: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
SUMMONER THRALL: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
LAMIA: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
LAMIA CURARE: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
LAMIA DOMINA: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
GIANT SNAKE: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
QUEEN'S PET: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
QUEEN'S: CHAMPION: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
QUEEN'S ADVISOR: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
LAMIA QUEEN: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL

STAGE 4 RESISTANCES

SCAVENGER FIRE RAVAGER: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
SCAVENGER FURE MAGE: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
SCAVENGER HEALER: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
SCAVENGER OVERCHARGER: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
CLOCKWORK SENTRY: 9.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
DWARVEN SPIDER: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
DWARVEN SPHERE: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
ACHELIR: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
AIHRIMA: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
KOTHHEID: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 9.1K SPELL
THE CONTROL GUARDIAN: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
SCAVENGER THUNDER-SMITH: 12,1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL

STAGE 5 RESISTANCES

HUNTSMAN FROSTBITER: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
HUNTSMAN CHILLBANE: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
HUNTSMAN HEARTFINDER: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
DEATHLESS WOLF: 9.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
TROLL BREAKER: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
OHRE: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
FROST ATRONACH: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
LEIMENID: 9.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
LEIMENID ORCLE: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
ANGIRGOTH: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
OGRE ELDER: 9.1K PHYSICAL ABD 18.2K SPELL
VIGI: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
AKI: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
BUR: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
MATRIARCH RUNA: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL

STAGE 6 RESISTANCES

SPIDERLINGS: DOES NOT MATTER
WEBSPINNER: 9.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
VENOMOUS HORVOAR: 9.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
SPIDERKITH BESERKER: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
SPIDERKITH ENERVATOR: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
SPIDERKITH WEFTER: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
SPIDERKITH VENIFEX: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
DIRE WASP: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
DREAD SCORPION: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
FLESH ATRONACH: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
VOID LURCHER: 9.1K PHYSICAL ABD 18.2K SPELL
XIVILAI TOXICOLI: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
SPIDERKITH CAPTAIN: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
SPIDER DAEDRA: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
CHAMPION OF ATROCITY: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL

STAGE 7 RESISTANCES:

NIX-HOUND: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
FERAL ARGONIAN: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
ARGONIAN VENOMSHOT: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
ARGONIAN BERSERKER: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
ARGONIAN VENOMCALLER: 9.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
ARGONIAN MENDER: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
SWAMP TROLL: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
WAMASU: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
ARGONIAN BEHEMOTH: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL

STAGE 8 RESISTANCES:

SHALK: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
WARDING STONE: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
FLAME ATRONACH: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
DREMORA CAITIFF: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
DREMORA KYNGALD: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
DREMORA GANDRAKYN: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
INFERNAL DESTROYER: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
FLAMEKNIGHT: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
VALKYN TEPHRA: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 0 SPELL

STAGE 9 RESISTANCES:

DREMORA KYNGALD: 9.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
DREMORA BELDAKYN: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
DREMORA GANDRAKYN: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
DREMORA KYNLURKER: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
DREMORA NARKYNAZ: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
XIVILAI RAVAGER: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
CREMATORIAL GUARD: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
OGRIM: 12.1K BOTH PHYSICAL AND SPELL
ASH TITAN: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL
VORIAK SOLKYN: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
SPECTRAL CLANNFEAR: 9.1K PHYSICAL AND 18.2K SPELL
ANIMUS CRYSTAL: 18.2K PHYSICAL AND 12.1K SPELL

Waffennacht

Changing gear during vMA, such a thing never occurred to me