Radiant Magelight vs Nightblades.

UltimateBias

There are many ways in this game to counter the Cloaking/Stealth capability of Nightblades with varying degree's of effectiveness.

One of the ways is via Radiant Magelight. From what I've heard ingame and read here on the forums, there seems to be a narrative that Radiant Magelight is ineffective at revealing Nightblades that are in Stealth.

Thus I have a video demonstrating that the narrative that Radiant Magelight is ineffective at revealing Nightblades is false.

Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvP5xfAtd6o&t=27s

ChunkyCat

dat musik

UltimateBias

ChunkyCat wrote: »

dat musik

You like it?

The first song is The Touch by Stan Bush

The second song is We Will Rock You by Queen.

Brutusmax1mus

Not 1 of them fears you before using it, not 1 of them uses shade and then cloaks, half of them are backing up and moving at a snail's pace bc thier clueless on what to do.

This is like saying the duck is a ferocious predator bc it squashed a worm walking to the pond. Go fight drakeheart, knsdesigns, jejeunum and tell me how you do keeping them out of stealth.

UltimateBias

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Not 1 of them fears you before using it, not 1 of them uses shade and then cloaks, half of them are backing up and moving at a snail's pace bc thier clueless on what to do.

This is like saying the duck is a ferocious predator bc it squashed a worm walking to the pond. Go fight drakeheart, knsdesigns, jejeunum and tell me how you do keeping them out of stealth.

The point of the thread is to demonstrate that Radiant Magelight can be effective at revealing Nightblades who utilize Cloak.

I believe the video demonstrates that very well.

If you have nothing of importance to contribute as pertains that, then maybe you shouldn't be here.


Btw, maybe you dont see too well, but one of the Nightblades DID use Shade and attempted to Cloak.

Radiant broke his Cloak, he went to his Shade, and Doom turned around and killed him.

It's all there.


PS.

I've seen Doom kill Drake. I haven't seen him fight the others, but Drake has definitely been killed by him before.

Brutusmax1mus

UltimateBias wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Not 1 of them fears you before using it, not 1 of them uses shade and then cloaks, half of them are backing up and moving at a snail's pace bc thier clueless on what to do.

This is like saying the duck is a ferocious predator bc it squashed a worm walking to the pond. Go fight drakeheart, knsdesigns, jejeunum and tell me how you do keeping them out of stealth.

The point of the thread is to demonstrate that Radiant Magelight can be effective at revealing Nightblades who utilize Cloak.

I believe the video demonstrates that very well.

If you have nothing of importance to contribute as pertains that, then maybe you shouldn't be here.


Btw, maybe you dont see too well, but one of the Nightblades DID use Shade and attempted to Cloak.

Radiant broke his Cloak, he went to his Shade, and Doom turned around and killed him.

It's all there.


PS.

I've seen Doom kill Drake. I haven't seen him fight the others, but Drake has definitely been killed by him before.

Dude, stop. You're doom, stop taking like you're not. It's weird.

UltimateBias

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Not 1 of them fears you before using it, not 1 of them uses shade and then cloaks, half of them are backing up and moving at a snail's pace bc thier clueless on what to do.

This is like saying the duck is a ferocious predator bc it squashed a worm walking to the pond. Go fight drakeheart, knsdesigns, jejeunum and tell me how you do keeping them out of stealth.

The point of the thread is to demonstrate that Radiant Magelight can be effective at revealing Nightblades who utilize Cloak.

I believe the video demonstrates that very well.

If you have nothing of importance to contribute as pertains that, then maybe you shouldn't be here.


Btw, maybe you dont see too well, but one of the Nightblades DID use Shade and attempted to Cloak.

Radiant broke his Cloak, he went to his Shade, and Doom turned around and killed him.

It's all there.


PS.

I've seen Doom kill Drake. I haven't seen him fight the others, but Drake has definitely been killed by him before.

Dude, stop. You're doom, stop taking like you're not. It's weird.

So.

Do you have anything significant to contribute as pertains to Radiant Magelight's ability to reveal Nightblades in Stealth?

UltimateBias

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Brutusmax1mus

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

UltimateBias

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Was Radiant Magelight effective at revealing the Nightblades in these instances?

The players decision making is another argument.

The question here is did Radiant do its job?

Sharee

UltimateBias wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Was Radiant Magelight effective at revealing the Nightblades in these instances?

The players decision making is another argument.

The question here is did Radiant do its job?

If your goal was to prove that radiant magelight can do its job against a nightblade who does not know how to counter it, sure.
But to kill a potato nightblade, you do not need radiant magelight to begin with.

UltimateBias

Sharee wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Was Radiant Magelight effective at revealing the Nightblades in these instances?

The players decision making is another argument.

The question here is did Radiant do its job?

If your goal was to prove that radiant magelight can do its job against a nightblade who does not know how to counter it, sure.
But to kill a potato nightblade, you do not need radiant magelight to begin with.

The question isn't if a given Nightblade can counter Radiant Magelight.

The belief that some have is that Radiant is not good at revealing Nightblades at all; the video shows that it is good at revealing them.

What happens after the reveal is irrelevant.

brandonv516

Thank you for proving that Cloak is not the worst of concerns coming into 2019.

Sharee

UltimateBias wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Was Radiant Magelight effective at revealing the Nightblades in these instances?

The players decision making is another argument.

The question here is did Radiant do its job?

If your goal was to prove that radiant magelight can do its job against a nightblade who does not know how to counter it, sure.
But to kill a potato nightblade, you do not need radiant magelight to begin with.

The question isn't if a given Nightblade can counter Radiant Magelight.

The belief that some have is that Radiant is not good at revealing Nightblades at all; the video shows that it is good at revealing them.

What happens after the reveal is irrelevant.

That's like saying a bamboo stick is a good anti-aircraft weapon.

Sure it is - if the aircraft is parked on the ground.

UltimateBias

Sharee wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Was Radiant Magelight effective at revealing the Nightblades in these instances?

The players decision making is another argument.

The question here is did Radiant do its job?

If your goal was to prove that radiant magelight can do its job against a nightblade who does not know how to counter it, sure.
But to kill a potato nightblade, you do not need radiant magelight to begin with.

The question isn't if a given Nightblade can counter Radiant Magelight.

The belief that some have is that Radiant is not good at revealing Nightblades at all; the video shows that it is good at revealing them.

What happens after the reveal is irrelevant.

That's like saying a bamboo stick is a good anti-aircraft weapon.

Sure it is - if the aircraft is parked on the ground.

Look, the point of the video is simply to show that Radiant Magelight is effective at revealing Nightblades.

Nothing more. Nothing less. There is no ulterior motive here.


Did you watch the video?

Was Radiant effective at revealing Nightblades who were utilizing Stealth?

Yes or no?

Sharee

UltimateBias wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Was Radiant Magelight effective at revealing the Nightblades in these instances?

The players decision making is another argument.

The question here is did Radiant do its job?

If your goal was to prove that radiant magelight can do its job against a nightblade who does not know how to counter it, sure.
But to kill a potato nightblade, you do not need radiant magelight to begin with.

The question isn't if a given Nightblade can counter Radiant Magelight.

The belief that some have is that Radiant is not good at revealing Nightblades at all; the video shows that it is good at revealing them.

What happens after the reveal is irrelevant.

That's like saying a bamboo stick is a good anti-aircraft weapon.

Sure it is - if the aircraft is parked on the ground.

Look, the point of the video is simply to show that Radiant Magelight is effective at revealing Nightblades.

Nothing more. Nothing less. There is no ulterior motive here.


Did you watch the video?

Was Radiant effective at revealing Nightblades who were utilizing Stealth?

Yes or no?

It was about as effective at revealing nightblades as a bamboo stick is at damaging aircraft.
After all, the circumstances do not matter, right?

Metemsycosis

I think a good player with radiant trumps a good player with cloak. A great player with radiant will probably fail to keep a great playe from cloaking. Detect pots are superior imo.

UltimateBias

Sharee wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Was Radiant Magelight effective at revealing the Nightblades in these instances?

The players decision making is another argument.

The question here is did Radiant do its job?

If your goal was to prove that radiant magelight can do its job against a nightblade who does not know how to counter it, sure.
But to kill a potato nightblade, you do not need radiant magelight to begin with.

The question isn't if a given Nightblade can counter Radiant Magelight.

The belief that some have is that Radiant is not good at revealing Nightblades at all; the video shows that it is good at revealing them.

What happens after the reveal is irrelevant.

That's like saying a bamboo stick is a good anti-aircraft weapon.

Sure it is - if the aircraft is parked on the ground.

Look, the point of the video is simply to show that Radiant Magelight is effective at revealing Nightblades.

Nothing more. Nothing less. There is no ulterior motive here.


Did you watch the video?

Was Radiant effective at revealing Nightblades who were utilizing Stealth?

Yes or no?

It was about as effective at revealing nightblades as a bamboo stick is at damaging aircraft.
After all, the circimstances do not matter, right?

Ok.

Thanks for your input.

Brutusmax1mus

Metemsycosis wrote: »

I think a good player with radiant trumps a good player with cloak. A great player with radiant will probably fail to keep a great playe from cloaking. Detect pots are superior imo.

This guy is great at using cloak. Pinning him down solo is literally impossible.

Metemsycosis

Eh. Detect+gap closers usually works If I'm not using shade.

UltimateBias

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Eh. Detect+gap closers usually works If I'm not using shade.

Metemsycosis wrote: »

I think a good player with radiant trumps a good player with cloak. A great player with radiant will probably fail to keep a great playe from cloaking. Detect pots are superior imo.

I can agree with you to a degree.

Those God Mode Nightblades as pertains utilizing the combo of Cloak/Shade/Speed can be brutal to lockdown; 1v1 you can't do it.


But that's one of the reasons I prefer Radiant to Detect Pots; you won't lock them down with a Detect Pot either (the really good ones will evade you with a combo of Speed and Shade) and during the Pots cooldown the Nightblade has complete control of the fight.

With Radiant, at least I can use an Invis Pot and get out of the situation completely.

UltimateBias

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Eh. Detect+gap closers usually works If I'm not using shade.

Who are you ingame?

Metemsycosis

Same name. I've recently met your friend in the sewers. Very friendly person, it would seem.

UltimateBias

Ah.

Excellent.

Juhasow

UltimateBias wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

UltimateBias wrote: »

@Brutusmax1mus

Looking back at the video, I see you are wrong yet again; the Nightblade killed around the 2 minute mark DID use Fear on Doom and attempted to Cloak.

Doom immediately broke the Fear Effect, revealed him with Radiant, and killed him.


Now that's twice in this thread that your arguments have been proven false:

1) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Shade and then Cloak. This was false.

2) You stated that no Nightblade in the video used Fear and then Cloak. This was false as well.


Aren't you tired of being wrong?

Why can't you simply admit that Radiant Magelight is effective against Nightblades?

Doom, that nightblade who feared you and cloaked RAN INTO YOU. If he ran the direction he was originally headed, you'd have missed it.

The one that used shade DIDN'T CLOAK AFTER, so you gap closed and used mage light.

Neither player did it right.

Was Radiant Magelight effective at revealing the Nightblades in these instances?

The players decision making is another argument.

The question here is did Radiant do its job?

If your goal was to prove that radiant magelight can do its job against a nightblade who does not know how to counter it, sure.
But to kill a potato nightblade, you do not need radiant magelight to begin with.

The question isn't if a given Nightblade can counter Radiant Magelight.

The belief that some have is that Radiant is not good at revealing Nightblades at all; the video shows that it is good at revealing them.

What happens after the reveal is irrelevant.

That's like saying a bamboo stick is a good anti-aircraft weapon.

Sure it is - if the aircraft is parked on the ground.

Look, the point of the video is simply to show that Radiant Magelight is effective at revealing Nightblades.

Nothing more. Nothing less. There is no ulterior motive here.


Did you watch the video?

Was Radiant effective at revealing Nightblades who were utilizing Stealth?

Yes or no?

Mindless cloak spam ≠ utilizing stealth playstyle

Maryal

I main a stamblade, done so for over 3 1/2 years. I will attest that radiant magelight IS effective.

Not all NBs gank. Some are simply trying to go from point A to point B without getting attacked by a pack of ravenous wolves. Sometimes you think you are taking a relatively 'safe' route (less traveled routes), but you never know when or where you will run into the enemy.

*Whether or not one can successfully escape after getting 'caught' is primarily situational (moving in stealth to travel as opposed to ganking).

If you are a stamblade trying to get from point A to point B, you probably spend more time in sneak mode than in cloak. Cloak costs magica ... casting a shade costs magica ... stamblades don't have limitless supplies of magica (remember, 'fear' costs magica too). If you unexpectedly get caught, you will probably try to run, but it won't do much good. Remember, right before you got caught, you were in sneaking around in stealth -- something that costs stamina. And, what sort of stamina were you regenerating during that time? LOL! Stamina pots? For most races, what you get from a stamina pot is a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of stamina needed if there is any hope of outrunning some enraged mob closing in behind you. LOS? Maybe, sometimes ... depends where you are.

Something else I will point out - radiant magelight also works against non-NBs ... you don't have to be a NB to be in stealth (sneak eye closed) or to use invisibility pots. Just saying.

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If you are cloaking / stealthing for the purpose of ganking, then I do agree more experienced players will have a back-up or escape plan. Less experienced gankers who get caught and subsequently killed are NOT bad players -- you get gud by putting yourself out there and learning from your mistakes. I admire that person so much more than a whiney snowflake who, instead, comes to the forums crying 'nerf'.

Brutusmax1mus

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Same name. I've recently met your friend in the sewers. Very friendly person, it would seem.

Doom and ultimatebias are the same guy, burs just pretending to be some one else to avoid a forum ban.

Metemsycosis

Doomsday isnt banned currently (?). Don't know why he would be either.

But if that is you, doom, sock puppeting is almost universally more bannable than whatever youre in trouble for, unless you're attacking someone.

Drdeath20

Cloak combined with anything else is just too much.

Cloak + snipe, cloak + teleport, cloak + fear, cloak + dodge roll, cloak + miss chance etc...

UltimateBias

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Same name. I've recently met your friend in the sewers. Very friendly person, it would seem.

Doom and ultimatebias are the same guy, burs just pretending to be some one else to avoid a forum ban.

We are not the same person; I am someone entirely different.

Your thoughts on this are misguided.

Just let it go.

idk

I have found magelight to be very effective in exposing NBs and keeping them exposed. It is my preferred method when on a magicka character. It really is fun. Especially since it seems they often keep trying to go into stealth, effectively not trying to damage you while you are killing them.