Daily reward and final loot in dungeons/trials?!?!

ThePlayer

I write this post because i think these final loot or daily reward (at least recently) are designed primarily for players under 810 CP, only that the players above +810 CP are many and are those who play more.
Now to give some examples, i dont care about:
Xp boost scroll;
Repair Kit (really?);
1/2k gold ... (minimum prize for gold enchant is + 3.5k gold);
Potions (one also involves a bug when eating blue food);
2 Food (i want 50 at least);
Should these daily rewards lead anyone over 810 CP to log in?


For the daily dungeons/undaunted quest the only positive thing is the transmute crystal;
For the trials .... there is a special loot? the final box ok ...
Gold boxes for vet trials .. ok

What would push me to do dungeons with all my alts?
The only thing would be a final loot that would help me to speed up the improvement of the gear, so in general i would be led to do dungeons only for gold loot of any kind.
Once leveled the undaunted to the maximum and taken the achievements for the vet dungeon 1/2 nothing pushes me to do these dungeons again, i will concentrate only with the DLC dungeons and not all because even with those i have already taken many achievements.

What do you think? please do not tell me that the loot are good and are not even mandatory, because they are for every self-respecting MMO.

VaranisArano

The point of running dungeons and trials is to get set gear, primarily, or undaunted keys to get your monster set shoulders, or transmute stones to change the trait of that gear.

If none of your characters need gear that drops from a dungeon, I guess the achievements are your only incentive.

The rest of us will continue to grind for the gear we need.


Also, Daily Login Rewards were always going to be 90% useless junk for experienced players. The reason max CP players log in is because you have to in order to get the 10% that aren't. If you wanted Murkmire, you had to log in for 24 days in November, whether you wanted the AP, gold, potions, scrolls, or not.

Mureel

Those CROWN repair kits (not the green ones, the crown ones) are nothing to sneeze at. They repair not only every piece you’re wearing, but every piece in your inventory.

If you can be bothered, you can bank all your main chars’ gear and withdraw on one char and use one crown kit to repair all then rebank it and withdraw on correct chars. Can save you like 16k at least - if you’re bothered. Certainly not useless.

They’re nothing to sneeze at, really.

Fleshreaper

ThePlayer wrote: »

I write this post because i think these final loot or daily reward (at least recently) are designed primarily for players under 810 CP, only that the players above +810 CP are many and are those who play more.
Now to give some examples, i dont care about:
Xp boost scroll;
Repair Kit (really?);
1/2k gold ... (minimum prize for gold enchant is + 3.5k gold);
Potions (one also involves a bug when eating blue food);
2 Food (i want 50 at least);
Should these daily rewards lead anyone over 810 CP to log in?


For the daily dungeons/undaunted quest the only positive thing is the transmute crystal;
For the trials .... there is a special loot? the final box ok ...
Gold boxes for vet trials .. ok

What would push me to do dungeons with all my alts?
The only thing would be a final loot that would help me to speed up the improvement of the gear, so in general i would be led to do dungeons only for gold loot of any kind.
Once leveled the undaunted to the maximum and taken the achievements for the vet dungeon 1/2 nothing pushes me to do these dungeons again, i will concentrate only with the DLC dungeons and not all because even with those i have already taken many achievements.

What do you think? please do not tell me that the loot are good and are not even mandatory, because they are for every self-respecting MMO.

I don't know! Maybe play the game because you enjoy it and not because you get some reward.

angelncelestine

Mureel wrote: »

Those CROWN repair kits (not the green ones, the crown ones) are nothing to sneeze at. They repair not only every piece you’re wearing, but every piece in your inventory.

If you can be bothered, you can bank all your main chars’ gear and withdraw on one char and use one crown kit to repair all then rebank it and withdraw on correct chars. Can save you like 16k at least - if you’re bothered. Certainly not useless.

They’re nothing to sneeze at, really.

Right! I love getting them :-) edit to add You will really appreciate them if you ever run vBRP

heaven13

@Mureel I did not know that! I don't think I've ever used a crown repair kit. But I'm working on my first vMA clear and repairs are inevitable. Soooooo, I know who's getting them now!

albesca

ThePlayer wrote: »

I write this post because i think these final loot or daily reward (at least recently) are designed primarily for players under 810 CP, only that the players above +810 CP are many and are those who play more.

Any data to back up these claims? Otherwise I think you should rephrase the bolded part like this: "only that I'm +810 CP"

What would push me to do dungeons with all my alts?

The first run with quest active grants you a skill point. Apart from that, there's gear farming, I suppose. You may also find it fun, but given your question I think that's not the case.

Otherwise, running dungeons more than once is pointless with your main too.

Mureel

heaven13 wrote: »

@Mureel I did not know that! I don't think I've ever used a crown repair kit. But I'm working on my first vMA clear and repairs are inevitable. Soooooo, I know who's getting them now!

Good luck on your clear hunny! ❤️

Agenericname

I've yet to log in to claim a prize. I log in to play the game.

Crown repair kits are awesome!

bongtokin420insd16

ya repair kits are the bomb lol id take just those and the one big monthly all day.

eso_nya

on the reward <> efford scale, daily rewards beat dungeon/trial rewards by far. (a lot of other activities do aswell)

AlnilamE

I claim most things on my sub-50 alt because it scales. But 2 food is more than enough. They could cut the potions/poisons in half and I'd still have enough to reach level 50 easily.

Wifeaggro13

ThePlayer wrote: »

I write this post because i think these final loot or daily reward (at least recently) are designed primarily for players under 810 CP, only that the players above +810 CP are many and are those who play more.
Now to give some examples, i dont care about:
Xp boost scroll;
Repair Kit (really?);
1/2k gold ... (minimum prize for gold enchant is + 3.5k gold);
Potions (one also involves a bug when eating blue food);
2 Food (i want 50 at least);
Should these daily rewards lead anyone over 810 CP to log in?


For the daily dungeons/undaunted quest the only positive thing is the transmute crystal;
For the trials .... there is a special loot? the final box ok ...
Gold boxes for vet trials .. ok

What would push me to do dungeons with all my alts?
The only thing would be a final loot that would help me to speed up the improvement of the gear, so in general i would be led to do dungeons only for gold loot of any kind.
Once leveled the undaunted to the maximum and taken the achievements for the vet dungeon 1/2 nothing pushes me to do these dungeons again, i will concentrate only with the DLC dungeons and not all because even with those i have already taken many achievements.

What do you think? please do not tell me that the loot are good and are not even mandatory, because they are for every self-respecting MMO.

By far eso is the most missed opportunity MMO for a long-term end game community.
1). At launch (mind you itemization got a little better with some of the dlc dungeons) for example by far the best longest and most difficult 4 man dungeon was hands down was Shada's tear and it was not even a VR dungeon que it was considered a craglorn single instance delve . the whole thing got standard normal purple drops it was basically a deconstruct farm for purple mats. but it was fun as hell and the last boss was the hardest mob to get the mechanics down.
2). If you can craft better then 95% of the drops in most of the VR dungeons including DLC's what in the hell is the point . 2 piece monster sets. Mind you i know alot of this has been corrected with Niche meta build sets that drop now but from the get-go itemization in this game leaves a massive population unmotivated to even want to do the dungeons.
3).simply put i dont think horizontal progression is doing anything for a permanent community. right now ESO is a hybrid single player RPG with MMO options that are pooorly implemented.

Trials are fun but itemization is again leaves a lot to be desired. its better then dungeons but not much

ThePlayer

I'll check this repair kit, i dont knew about it;

P.S. my post is for players up to 810 CP, not for players that sill need monster set or complete some dungeons for get the wanted build pve or pvp.
For me is always possible to do something for pull players to be more active and not only during events

Mr_Walker

VaranisArano wrote: »

If none of your characters need gear that drops from a dungeon, I guess the achievements are your only incentive.
/quote]

Or, um, fun?

TelvanniWizard

I find the repair kits really useful. The gold, on the other hand, is not too much to make a difference, but it´s still free gold.

Gatviper

They're free rewards, if you don't need them then what does it matter. If you want more, then you're maybe ungrateful. As others mentioned, the repair kit repairs every damaged gear on character / maybe even in inventory, I didn't check. The tri-restoration potions are not bad as well, sure the magicka restore potion made by Alchemy lasts a bit longer and gives back more magicka for example, but alchemy ingredients aren't cheap, and limited.
As for dungeons, I'm doing Undaunted pledges every day because I like doing group dungeons, and keys can end up useful if I needed a certain piece of shoulders, or the monthly monster motif page. You'll quickly notice you need all the keys you can get if you want to find what you're looking for, the Random Cruelty Generator can be rather cruel. Also farming certain gear sets to work on optimizing my DD build, still looking for that second Burning Spellweave inferno staff for couple of weeks now.

Oh yes, and I'm 875+CP now, just to be clear, so while I'm not logging in specifically for the rewards but to have fun, I do like the rewards.

HallowedUndead

Mureel wrote: »

Those CROWN repair kits (not the green ones, the crown ones) are nothing to sneeze at. They repair not only every piece you’re wearing, but every piece in your inventory.

If you can be bothered, you can bank all your main chars’ gear and withdraw on one char and use one crown kit to repair all then rebank it and withdraw on correct chars. Can save you like 16k at least - if you’re bothered. Certainly not useless.

They’re nothing to sneeze at, really.

For real? That is something new to me. I thought it said it reapirs all the gear you're wearing

Mureel

Wifeaggro13 wrote: »

ThePlayer wrote: »

I write this post because i think these final loot or daily reward (at least recently) are designed primarily for players under 810 CP, only that the players above +810 CP are many and are those who play more.
Now to give some examples, i dont care about:
Xp boost scroll;
Repair Kit (really?);
1/2k gold ... (minimum prize for gold enchant is + 3.5k gold);
Potions (one also involves a bug when eating blue food);
2 Food (i want 50 at least);
Should these daily rewards lead anyone over 810 CP to log in?


For the daily dungeons/undaunted quest the only positive thing is the transmute crystal;
For the trials .... there is a special loot? the final box ok ...
Gold boxes for vet trials .. ok

What would push me to do dungeons with all my alts?
The only thing would be a final loot that would help me to speed up the improvement of the gear, so in general i would be led to do dungeons only for gold loot of any kind.
Once leveled the undaunted to the maximum and taken the achievements for the vet dungeon 1/2 nothing pushes me to do these dungeons again, i will concentrate only with the DLC dungeons and not all because even with those i have already taken many achievements.

What do you think? please do not tell me that the loot are good and are not even mandatory, because they are for every self-respecting MMO.

By far eso is the most missed opportunity MMO for a long-term end game community.
1). At launch (mind you itemization got a little better with some of the dlc dungeons) for example by far the best longest and most difficult 4 man dungeon was hands down was Shada's tear and it was not even a VR dungeon que it was considered a craglorn single instance delve . the whole thing got standard normal purple drops it was basically a deconstruct farm for purple mats. but it was fun as hell and the last boss was the hardest mob to get the mechanics down.
2). If you can craft better then 95% of the drops in most of the VR dungeons including DLC's what in the hell is the point . 2 piece monster sets. Mind you i know alot of this has been corrected with Niche meta build sets that drop now but from the get-go itemization in this game leaves a massive population unmotivated to even want to do the dungeons.
3).simply put i dont think horizontal progression is doing anything for a permanent community. right now ESO is a hybrid single player RPG with MMO options that are pooorly implemented.

Trials are fun but itemization is again leaves a lot to be desired. its better then dungeons but not much

Agreeeee! Shadas tear was legit a 4 man trial back in the day

Mureel

HallowedUndead wrote: »

Mureel wrote: »

Those CROWN repair kits (not the green ones, the crown ones) are nothing to sneeze at. They repair not only every piece you’re wearing, but every piece in your inventory.

If you can be bothered, you can bank all your main chars’ gear and withdraw on one char and use one crown kit to repair all then rebank it and withdraw on correct chars. Can save you like 16k at least - if you’re bothered. Certainly not useless.

They’re nothing to sneeze at, really.

For real? That is something new to me. I thought it said it reapirs all the gear you're wearing

Nope! Everything you have on your char who uses it.

Like visiting a merchant and click repair. Same diff.

Tai-Chi

None of my Characters do PvP, so they like getting Tel=Var stones and AP Tokens.

My Main Crafter always claims the Daily Rewards.

This week, her Alliance rank went up to Lv5 and opened up the Vigour skill. I did not know that these freebie AP tokens added XP as well. Now she goes flower picking with Vigour slotted on her front bar and does all her skill-earning activities during enhanced XP time, whilst Vigour is still slotted, of course.

It might take a while but she could reach Lv10 eventually at this rate, without ever having to leave the base camp. She does go there on occasion, when the Golden has a particularly 'die-for' chapeau on sale but venturing any further would stresses her out considerably.