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VR system vs Champion!
xandervalo
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Does anyone else miss the way things use to be without cp, I remember the battles in cyro when the max VR was 16 I miss those days. I dont like champion points at all I prefer the small number that use to be by peoples names it was so much more Aesthetically pleasing. and who like cp anyways its just a bunch of over buffed exploiting noobs.
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ghastley✭✭✭✭✭
✭You could always start a new character and stop at level 16, and pretend that's the old VR.7 -
lazerlaz✭✭✭Why I love no CP campaign IF ONLY IT WAS POPULATED GOSH DANGIT!!!! ZOS PLEASE GIVE REAL INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO JOIN
Edited by lazerlaz on December 7, 2018 8:55PM1 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭xandervalo wrote: »Does anyone else miss the way things use to be without cp, I remember the battles in cyro when the max VR was 16 I miss those days. I dont like champion points at all I prefer the small number that use to be by peoples names it was so much more Aesthetically pleasing. and who like cp anyways its just a bunch of over buffed exploiting noobs.
Fortunately for you, there are a couple of no-CP campaigns in PvP for like-minded players that enjoy the same. Are there a few exploiters in those campaigns too? Probably.
That said, the advantages of the CP system far outweigh the old VR days. That is fact ... aesthetics or not.1 -
xandervalo✭✭✭I do play sotha I enjoy it so much!
Yes please more incentives so more will join sotha, there is something just so special about a player and their armpit and skill to rely on rather than a couple tree.0 -
MaxwellC✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I hated both of them, what I think we need is to remove the CP system entirely.不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
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Colecovision✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think they just need to take a digit off the whole way. Level 1 - 5 for the beginning. As it is it goes too fast and it's just a hassle trying to get gear. By the time I put a set together, half the pieces are 3 levels back. So I either get gear or learn the new character, but not both.
Then cp points don't even function individually. Make me work 10 levels for 1 point, then have that point raise a stat. We shouldn't have 1 point at a time, rounded down to no impact at all.1 -
xandervalo✭✭✭I hated both of them, what I think we need is to remove the CP system entirely.
Me too I agree 100% there’s nothing better than slapping armor on and just going out there to have fun, tbh I damage prod sets too. I wish monster sets just gave shields, sustain, or more range to certain abilities I dislike sets that spawn volcanos, or anything like that it’s just ridiculous. I don’t mind them at web mother one that pulls in but mortars and volcanos really? Can’t we just pvp and rely mainly on class skills rather than oh when my set procs he’s toast it makes gameplay not so unique for me
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f047ys3v3n✭✭✭✭✭
✭The old VR system was quite the grind but the game was still better back then. Things have never been well balanced since. This probably has as much to do with softcaps as the CP system.I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.1 -
kojou✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭There are many ways it could be done... hindsight is 20/20.
That said, it would be a mess, and a lot of effort to remove it now.
I wouldn't complain if the CP system was gutted and all the power from it placed in the passives and gear bonuses.Playing since beta...1 -
xandervalo✭✭✭f047ys3v3n wrote: »The old VR system was quite the grind but the game was still better back then. Things have never been well balanced since. This probably has as much to do with softcaps as the CP system.
Yes I agree completely I returned after a long time to eso, and I felt it use to be so much better. I don’t think they should make you grind the rest of your levels after 50 if you have a level 160 already but just take the cup out turn that cp160 back to vr 16 and have you guys ever noticed how pvp in the under 50 camp is so much fun? I think it’s because people don’t all just run prof sets and they enjoy the game for what it really isEdited by xandervalo on December 7, 2018 9:14PM0 -
xandervalo✭✭✭There are many ways it could be done... hindsight is 20/20.
That said, it would be a mess, and a lot of effort to remove it now.
I wouldn't complain if the CP system was gutted and all the power from it placed in the passives and gear bonuses.
Me either, one can only hope and dream of it. ):0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭xandervalo wrote: »Does anyone else miss the way things use to be without cp, I remember the battles in cyro when the max VR was 16 I miss those days. I dont like champion points at all I prefer the small number that use to be by peoples names it was so much more Aesthetically pleasing. and who like cp anyways its just a bunch of over buffed exploiting noobs.
You are assuming if we were using vet ranks they would have stopped at 16. That most likely isn't the case because progression is in part what keeps people playing an MMO. With vet levels when there is an increase that means our armor is now obsolete. With Champion Points we progress but don't outgrow our armor after reaching a certain level.
Level progression is a part of the game. It is needed for the long term health of the game. I prefer a method that doesn't have me replacing all my gear every time I reach a new level. I would like to see some kind of change though. I have enough champion points that I could take a break for a long time and still be ahead of the amount we can use.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
xandervalo✭✭✭xandervalo wrote: »Does anyone else miss the way things use to be without cp, I remember the battles in cyro when the max VR was 16 I miss those days. I dont like champion points at all I prefer the small number that use to be by peoples names it was so much more Aesthetically pleasing. and who like cp anyways its just a bunch of over buffed exploiting noobs.
You are assuming if we were using vet ranks they would have stopped at 16. That most likely isn't the case because progression is in part what keeps people playing an MMO. With vet levels when there is an increase that means our armor is now obsolete. With Champion Points we progress but don't outgrow our armor after reaching a certain level.
Level progression is a part of the game. It is needed for the long term health of the game. I prefer a method that doesn't have me replacing all my gear every time I reach a new level. I would like to see some kind of change though. I have enough champion points that I could take a break for a long time and still be ahead of the amount we can use.
that is true im about level 466 i understand that i dont mind that i hate out growing my armour as well i am glad that stopped at 1600
