Undaunted event for next year

NorthernNightmare

What are some hopes and wishes for next years event?

Besides big fixes/a working group finder

Honestly I would just hope that the drop rates were boosted if even by a little bit. Rng sucks, look at the other posts on here and see only like 3percent got a house. If they shortened the event time and boosted the odds I would like it a lot more

but thats about it really... all in all a very underwhelming event

FreshlyB8ked

All rewards should be tied to the Undaunted Pledges during next year's event.
That would certainly be a step in the right direction.

Enemoriana

FreshlyB8ked wrote: »

All rewards should be tied to the Undaunted Pledges during next year's event.
That would certainly be a step in the right direction.

What about character below 45 lvl?

Taleof2Cities

There is a largely divided forum-base on whether running Fungel Grotto I qualifies as a “random” dungeon.

No matter which side players are on ... ZOS should tell us their view. If their view is an exploit then they should take steps to fix it.

redspecter23

I don't mind very low drop rates on extremely rare prizes like houses, but knowing the drop rates would have been nice. If it's 0.01%, just let us know so we don't get our hopes up. ZOS seems to be allergic to posting drop rates for things. I suppose some people may like the idea that a prize may be more common than it actually is and raise their hopes of winning that prize. It's probably part of the strategy behind loot boxes in general and applies to event rewards like this as well.

Abigail

TerraDewBerry

I think they should make it so that completing any dungeon will give the reward or any undaunted daily delve quest. That way, premade groups can just walk into the dungeon and avoid the broken group finder tool all together and those who like to do solo quests could just do the undaunted daily delve quest. There, easy peazy everyone is hopefully happy.

idk

FreshlyB8ked wrote: »

All rewards should be tied to the Undaunted Pledges during next year's event.
That would certainly be a step in the right direction.

Not sure how this is a step in the right direction other than to be limiting. The dungeons themselves are the core of the Undaunted. The pledges were very much an afterthought that have been added since the game launched.
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The event is fine. It's intent is to get more running dungeons and of course using the GF which we know needs some attention.

Rewards can be updated but I expect the Indrik mount idea is intended to keep us going for awhile.

AcadianPaladin

Kill any group dungeon final boss, get tix - just like this year.

Kill any daily pledge dungeon final boss get mystery box.

Random (including dlc) dungeon + random group = recipe for frustration for too much of the player base (me included).

Atreidus

The point is not any exploit. It just is that it was not working for 2(or 3) days. And the finder still is broken(you can not exit any queque without logging out). This random button, which had prevented almost all from joining, is removed.

My thoughts: Event yes but not this way. Like it was planed and this time tested + working. The infos, that there wont be a maintenance at the PC - version of TESO this week, are like a hit in the face. Why no one maintains this bug?

Server here: EU
Version: german
Support at german forums? Which support?

To making it clear: I think it has got resetted to the pre sundays patch and at this saturdays patchless hotfix now.

ps.: I had made multiple reports ingame and at the support forums(which looked up at germany sadly)

Linaleah

honestly IMO? they should either make dungeon 1 pledges available at lvl 10 and tie mysterious boxes to them, or add an extra quest giver for the event. complete his dungeon quest - get a box, with his quest essentially being "kill final boss of any dungeon" and becasue its a daily tied to pledge reset rather then 20 hour timer, there isn't as much urgency to slam through as many dungeons as possible in as small amount of time as possible to not fall behind on your random daily cooldowns.

and you can try for a random or go into specific dungeon in case groupfinder is being crappy again

Enemoriana

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Kill any group dungeon final boss, get tix - just like this year.

Kill any daily pledge dungeon final boss get mystery box.

Random (including dlc) dungeon + random group = recipe for frustration for too much of the player base (me included).

Characters below 45 lvl don't have pledges. So you suggest no boxes for new players.

AcadianPaladin

Enemoriana wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Kill any group dungeon final boss, get tix - just like this year.

Kill any daily pledge dungeon final boss get mystery box.

Random (including dlc) dungeon + random group = recipe for frustration for too much of the player base (me included).

Characters below 45 lvl don't have pledges. So you suggest no boxes for new players.

That is a good point and is indeed an unintended consequence of my suggestion. Would be happy to endorse an alternative - as long as it avoids the random dungeon finder, lol.

Sheezabeast

I would like them to add Undaunted Motifs and Undaunted Arms to the loot pool for the boxes. They could even do single items from the arms packs, like a Troll King Staff, for example. I think this would be nice.

Salvas_Aren

Would be easier to grant the box for every dungeon final boss, no matter if random or not.

And no stupid limits per char. Limits per account or no limits at all would work best. Limitations per char just add frustration when you get pugged with some mules.

I think I got the ultimate idea: Limits per dungeon! All drops, which are not limited by account or unlimited on purpose, are limited by dungeon.

Meaning, after nFG1 the drop can be achieved in vFG1, nBC1, nFG2 etc.. This way ppl would stay in dungeon and the need to relog to mules, PvPs etc. would be gone.


However, tbh: I expect nothing but *unexpected dungeon finder problems* occurring on day 1 of next year's event. And, ofc, Gina will promise they are looking into the problem. Nice wording btw, looking into it does not tell us whether there will be a solution in sight or in application. Ánd the final day of the event will be accompanied by a server maintenance downtime. Planned, ofc.

So, folks, remind me to necro this thread in exactly 51 weeks.

Enemoriana

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Enemoriana wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Kill any group dungeon final boss, get tix - just like this year.

Kill any daily pledge dungeon final boss get mystery box.

Random (including dlc) dungeon + random group = recipe for frustration for too much of the player base (me included).

Characters below 45 lvl don't have pledges. So you suggest no boxes for new players.

That is a good point and is indeed an unintended consequence of my suggestion. Would be happy to endorse an alternative - as long as it avoids the random dungeon finder, lol.

Why not just give boxes for any last boss first time a day, same as tickets? Need group - use dungeon finder, don't want - group with friends or go solo.

Atreidus

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Enemoriana wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Kill any group dungeon final boss, get tix - just like this year.

Kill any daily pledge dungeon final boss get mystery box.

Random (including dlc) dungeon + random group = recipe for frustration for too much of the player base (me included).

Characters below 45 lvl don't have pledges. So you suggest no boxes for new players.

That is a good point and is indeed an unintended consequence of my suggestion. Would be happy to endorse an alternative - as long as it avoids the random dungeon finder, lol.

Pledges shall be for Vets only. At under 50 you can visit the local pubs to spend them some drinks and getting your mission stuff. Or just queque up/enter a dungeon and do this quests there.

Events shall never be 50 only. Or in this case.. 45 because of the old "-5 lvl" thing they still had at this time.

Reminds me that they can bring this lvl based and cp based damage back istead of scaled stuff, which fails at any mmorpg.
But thats another storry.
The thread is about this event.

ps.: 1x an day is already generous. 1 guaranted stlye book

Abigail

ONE dungeon, ONE mystery box, on ONE account each day.

Let's face it, virtually every problem resulting from this event came from the feeding frenzy. Yeah, the GF was already broken, but so many people attempting so many alts made it worse.

Enemoriana

Abigail wrote: »

ONE dungeon, ONE mystery box, on ONE account each day.

Let's face it, virtually every problem resulting from this event came from the feeding frenzy. Yeah, the GF was already broken, but so many people attempting so many alts made it worse.

With such drop rates it would be terrible and there will be nearly no reason to participate at all.

Abigail

Enemoriana wrote: »

With such drop rates it would be terrible and there will be nearly no reason to participate at all.

Oh, please. Blood flows hot in this community at the mere hint of free stuff.

Atreidus

Abigail wrote: »

ONE dungeon, ONE mystery box, on ONE account each day.

Let's face it, virtually every problem resulting from this event came from the feeding frenzy. Yeah, the GF was already broken, but so many people attempting so many alts made it worse.

Yes 1 per account. This books are to rare and can even be sold. Mhh why not making thsi event box stuff char bound then?

Simple reason: peoples will enrage why they cant sell ther duplicates.

So 1 per account and day is ok. This will limit the exploiting of this and the ah price dumping to the minumum.

Terrible drop rates would be a rage factor to. It had failed at any mmo.

/edit: To prevent rage quits make an informer popup before (at opening the dungeon finder) quequing with the option to "not show this again for today".

Acrolas

Sheezabeast wrote: »

They could even do single items from the arms packs, like a Troll King Staff, for example. I think this would be nice.

The Undaunted Arms Pack and the Undaunted Head/Shoulder outfit styles are "inviolably bound to one another" so there's zero chance of breaking up either the game drops or the Arms Pack bundles. I know some people are going to freak out when they realize they missed out on those weapon styles, but I can't accuse ZOS of being ambiguous on the terms. They only used one of the firmest adverbs out there.

Syy101

I think the tricky part is that there’s always something that some players don’t have access to, e.g. tier 2 dungeons, dlc dungeons, pledges. That’s why I think ZOS decided to use the random dungeon approach. Everyone can use that. But the fact that the GF tool is broken and high level players have a higher chance of running into harder contents push ppl to use the FG1 exploits.

I don’t think just placing rewards on any bosses will be better. That will just results in another FG1 speed run events.

IMO it would be better to let the rewards scale with dungeon difficulty. Yes higher rewards will be locked out for new players, but it is an MMO after all. You don’t expect to earn everything on level 3. During Witches Festival the motifs from trials and arenas are probably locked out for low lvl players, but nobody complained, because they had delves, easier dungeons, public dungeons to had some fun. IMO an event should let everyone have fun, not have everyone on the strictly equal ground.

BahometZ

I just wish it was a daily cooldown, not 20hrs since the last time, which is pretty easy to *** up and lose track of, not to mention that for many it's difficult to line up the same time every day. That, and tying it to broken dungeon finder made the game feel like a chore, which is the wrong attitude for events. It should've been just the last boss of any dungeon, regardless of how you achieve it.

The idea that ZOS plan an event around a broken mechanism, like somehow it's something to be proud of (?) and celebrated, is hilarious.

Atreidus

BahometZ wrote: »

I just wish it was a daily cooldown, not 20hrs since the last time, which is pretty easy to *** up and lose track of, not to mention that for many it's difficult to line up the same time every day. That, and tying it to broken dungeon finder made the game feel like a chore, which is the wrong attitude for events. It should've been just the last boss of any dungeon, regardless of how you achieve it.

The idea that ZOS plan an event around a broken mechanism, like somehow it's something to be proud of (?) and celebrated, is hilarious.

So signed. I personaly had stared to report all dungeon finder bugs ingame again. And this every x days. 1st reports where leading to the fix from saturday(before this hasty patch). And at this point it stays until now. Still not exitable at queuing but it works..