Golden Vendor - stamina sets?

Raudgrani

Bit of a rant here.

Anyone else feeling they rarely complete the stamina sets? We've had Spriggan's NECk two times. Then we had Hulking Draugr and Bone Pirate necks months ago. The complete stamina sets never ****** comes to that sneaky ***... Heem Jas', when will we see the neck? Before ZOS close their servers?

Ironically - I didn't even bother buying an Automaton neck because of this, because I thought it would be all the same. So I bought the rings and had to gold out the darn neck afterwards...

I also kind of see a pattern here:

Witchmother's Potent Brew recipes, you have a dozen of them after the event - even if you don't even try to farm them. Dubious Camoran Throne; I've had ONE recipe since 2016 (even though I tried farming it)... It also takes Beetle Scuttle (3 of them), which is not a really easily farmed ingredient.
We have Clockwork Citrus Filet, takes ONE Perfect Roe to make; and we have the Artaeum Takeaway Broth, takes FIVE Powdered Mother of Pearl to make, and yeah - try to farm or buy that to the same price as a Perfect Roe, will you?

We have Bone Pirate, a Dungeon set - Bright-Throat's Boast appears, readily available - an overland set (and you had Lich and several other similar sets before that). I could go on. Haven't really tried the Clockwork drink with Bright-Throat's Boast, but I suspect it will work; but of coooourse the Artaeum "food" doesn't work with Bone Pirate. Who would've thought that!?

Don't come and nag about Hulking Draugr vs Necropotence now, same thing there - Necro is an overland set, you can BUY it (and also, you've had the chance to buy the golden jewelry; several times if I'm not wrong). And max magicka and max stamina is not nearly the same thing. A LOW max magicka, is considered a rather high max stamina. You can't reach a max stamina of similar levels as high max magicka: unless you are an emperor werewolf in Imperial Physique in Imperial City, or whatever.

Could we simply say magicka is the easy way out, a kind of "handicap"? I play both, so I don't really take any sides here, but for me it's obvious.

Raudgrani

Same second I pressed "publish", I remembered the clockwork recipe is not a drink, so it won't work with Bright-Throat's Boast, sorry. No need to point that out. Mistake. ;-D

Knootewoot

Golder Vendor mostly has stamina sets and hardly magicka. At least that is how i feel/experience it.

Vapirko

It honestly seems about 50/50 in the vendor with most of it being trash. But it definitely does seem easier to toss together a good magicka build in a short time, especially with bright throats now.

Raudgrani

Knootewoot wrote: »

Golder Vendor mostly has stamina sets and hardly magicka. At least that is how i feel/experience it.

They do, but total crap ones - if they are anywhere near useful, you never have the full sets. Ever.

Of course most sets in total are junk, but the few good Magicka ones are usually completed, the Stamina ones ain't.

vamp_emily

Every week ( when I have AP ) I always buy 1 or 2 pieces of gold jewelry. I think i have around 40 items now. Most my complete sets were picked up during the PvP event. I have mostly stam pieces because that is what I play.

I finally used one of my complete set "Automaton" and I'm really enjoying it. Last week I picked up 2 Morihaus rings. I more than likely won't use it it but I thought it would be fun to see how dogging through enemy would cause them to knock back.

I bet if players could peek in my inventory they would say "mmmmm i want that ".

Kel

As far as the golden is concerned, I've always felt a better system would be to, yes, keep it random...but don't have anything repeat until all the sets have been cycled through.

So, if gold Spriggans rings came up one weekend, you wouldn't see them again until every other set would be cycled through. They'd be off the loot table until the next cycle.
Same with the monster sets.

This would cut getting the same sets over and over completely out entirely, and at least guaranteeing you'd see the sets you were after at least once a cycle.

ChunkyCat

vamp_emily wrote: »

I bet if players could peek in my inventory they would say "mmmmm i want that ".

Ewww.

Silver_Strider

vamp_emily wrote: »

Every week ( when I have AP ) I always buy 1 or 2 pieces of gold jewelry. I think i have around 40 items now. Most my complete sets were picked up during the PvP event. I have mostly stam pieces because that is what I play.

I finally used one of my complete set "Automaton" and I'm really enjoying it. Last week I picked up 2 Morihaus rings. I more than likely won't use it it but I thought it would be fun to see how dogging through enemy would cause them to knock back.

I bet if players could peek in my inventory they would say "mmmmm i want that ".

Now make a zerg of roll dodgers using this set and recreate Armor of Thorns trolling from Dark Souls.

Raudgrani

jabrone77 wrote: »

As far as the golden is concerned, I've always felt a better system would be to, yes, keep it random...but don't have anything repeat until all the sets have been cycled through.

So, if gold Spriggans rings came up one weekend, you wouldn't see them again until every other set would be cycled through. They'd be off the loot table until the next cycle.
Same with the monster sets.

This would cut getting the same sets over and over completely out entirely, and at least guaranteeing you'd see the sets you were after at least once a cycle.

I don't mind sets re-appearing. But for the sake of the Gods - let us complete the sets we've had one half of, at least in some 3-6 months time. I mean, Spriggan YAY! A year passes, WOW SPRIGGAN.... neck...... Again.... If this is totally random, they really should change that. Because now it's just annoying, and as long as golding out sets costs a fortune or takes at least a quarter of a year for a normal player it's just bad.

UppGRAYxDD

Well, the history of items is listed here: http://benevolentbowd.ca/games/esotu/esotu-chronicle-of-alliance-point-vendor-items/#201811

Since Feb 2018 when ZoS normalized drops on PC and Console:

54 Magicka
59 Stamina
40 tank

Looks pretty close to me OP

Raudgrani

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Well, the history of items is listed here: http://benevolentbowd.ca/games/esotu/esotu-chronicle-of-alliance-point-vendor-items/#201811

Since Feb 2018 when ZoS normalized drops on PC and Console:

54 Magicka
59 Stamina
40 tank

Looks pretty close to me OP

I think you missed the point, entirely. I don't get tears of joy in my eyes from getting the possibility to buy a full set of Draugr's Heritage or other useless sets, I mean the ones that matter. They don't complete the sets stamina players really want. I think Automaton is the only exception I can think of, actually. And that's not even considered a "good set" by many, many players.

DisgracefulMind

Clockwork doesn't work with Bright-Throat.

I can see where you're coming from, to an extent, but stamina in actual play is so strong that it's hard to keep understanding.

Trinity_Is_My_Name

Very rarely is there anything worth spending gold or AP on in my opinion. Just junk sets most don't use.

UppGRAYxDD

Raudgrani wrote: »

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Well, the history of items is listed here: http://benevolentbowd.ca/games/esotu/esotu-chronicle-of-alliance-point-vendor-items/#201811

Since Feb 2018 when ZoS normalized drops on PC and Console:

54 Magicka
59 Stamina
40 tank

Looks pretty close to me OP

I think you missed the point, entirely. I don't get tears of joy in my eyes from getting the possibility to buy a full set of Draugr's Heritage or other useless sets, I mean the ones that matter. They don't complete the sets stamina players really want. I think Automaton is the only exception I can think of, actually. And that's not even considered a "good set" by many, many players.

Its RnG bud... You know how long some magicka players waited anxiously for gold Lich and Amberplasm Jewelry to drop... Now for you claiming bias or saying "magicka is the easy way", I think that is misleading... These things change from patch to patch...Remeber the Viper Sting Days?

Raudgrani

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Raudgrani wrote: »

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Well, the history of items is listed here: http://benevolentbowd.ca/games/esotu/esotu-chronicle-of-alliance-point-vendor-items/#201811

Since Feb 2018 when ZoS normalized drops on PC and Console:

54 Magicka
59 Stamina
40 tank

Looks pretty close to me OP

I think you missed the point, entirely. I don't get tears of joy in my eyes from getting the possibility to buy a full set of Draugr's Heritage or other useless sets, I mean the ones that matter. They don't complete the sets stamina players really want. I think Automaton is the only exception I can think of, actually. And that's not even considered a "good set" by many, many players.

Its RnG bud... You know how long some magicka players waited anxiously for gold Lich and Amberplasm Jewelry to drop... Now for you claiming bias or saying "magicka is the easy way", I think that is misleading... These things change from patch to patch...Remeber the Viper Sting Days?

You still have a year or so to wait, before you have a reason to complain about Lich and Amber Plasm, really.
I have a feeling Amber Plasm neck will show up pretty soon, at least my NB PVP healer says he thinks and hopes so. ;-)