Thanks for the great communication regarding Shadow Image. “Update” still no response 6 months later

Koolio

This is bugged once again. And probably for another 6 months. Any word yet?


https://youtu.be/Ykf7ldlz-IU

ChunkyCat

No word.

But have you heard about Fungal Grotto....

xI_The_Owl_Ix

It was.....

...Shadow (Image) Nerfed..



YEAHHH

ESO_Nightingale

What bug? Ive heard about a bug relating to it before but i still dont know what it does.

Ill tell you a real bug though. You can reflect frozen retreat and it teleports you to the enemy and as long as the reflecting enemy stands in the field it will reflect you and essentially permaroot you and damage you too. We tested it too and it killed me when my friend used dk reflect and the snb ulti.

xI_The_Owl_Ix

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

What bug? Ive heard about a bug relating to it before but i still dont know what it does.

Ill tell you a real bug though. You can reflect frozen retreat and it teleports you to the enemy and as long as the reflecting enemy stands in the field it will reflect you and essentially permaroot you and damage you too. We tested it too and it killed me when my friend used dk reflect and the snb ulti.

You cant teleport to your shade anymore if theres a difference in height. So you cant plave it on a keep, jump down and teleport back up.
You and your shadow need to be on the same height level for it to work atm.

Koolio

@ZOS_GinaBruno any word on this issue. This is the second year in a row where this is broken for months at a time

Chelo

xI_The_Owl_Ix wrote: »

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

What bug? Ive heard about a bug relating to it before but i still dont know what it does.

Ill tell you a real bug though. You can reflect frozen retreat and it teleports you to the enemy and as long as the reflecting enemy stands in the field it will reflect you and essentially permaroot you and damage you too. We tested it too and it killed me when my friend used dk reflect and the snb ulti.

You cant teleport to your shade anymore if theres a difference in height. So you cant plave it on a keep, jump down and teleport back up.
You and your shadow need to be on the same height level for it to work atm.

Ohhhh!!! Damn! 😬

An_An

I didn’t have this issue today ... definitely ported a floor above on atleast three occasions ... does it happen sometimes or all the time ?

Mr_Wolfe

Yeah, heard rumors it was back a couple weeks ago, but when I tested it I could port vertically with no problems. I'm on XB1 though, maybe the bug is only on PC for a change.

Jaxaxo

An_An wrote: »

I didn’t have this issue today ... definitely ported a floor above on atleast three occasions ... does it happen sometimes or all the time ?

It doesnt work in pvp objectives like keeps, outposts, resources, towns. In open world it works usually (had some random situations when couldnt teleport but rarely)

Koolio

Thank you ZOS for the quality communication on issues. This is the best communication I’ve ever seen.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

ccmedaddy

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

Ill tell you a real bug though. You can reflect frozen retreat and it teleports you to the enemy and as long as the reflecting enemy stands in the field it will reflect you and essentially permaroot you and damage you too. We tested it too and it killed me when my friend used dk reflect and the snb ulti.

Ok but that's a hilarious bug xD Would love to see a clip of it.

Koolio

https://youtu.be/Ykf7ldlz-IU

One of my friends found out some of the issues

An_An

Koolio wrote: »

https://youtu.be/Ykf7ldlz-IU

One of my friends found out some of the issues

Yup, this makes sense. It's a Cyrodiil issue, works for me only in BGs.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Feels like a stealth nerf to me a “Shadow Image suppression” in just a few key areas. Wouldn’t be the first ninja nerf.

SaintSubwayy

xI_The_Owl_Ix wrote: »

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

What bug? Ive heard about a bug relating to it before but i still dont know what it does.

Ill tell you a real bug though. You can reflect frozen retreat and it teleports you to the enemy and as long as the reflecting enemy stands in the field it will reflect you and essentially permaroot you and damage you too. We tested it too and it killed me when my friend used dk reflect and the snb ulti.

You cant teleport to your shade anymore if theres a difference in height. So you cant plave it on a keep, jump down and teleport back up.
You and your shadow need to be on the same height level for it to work atm.

And still dks cant leap onto walls or chain ppl down when they stand on the edge, with no obstacle in the way....

Nerftheforums

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

xI_The_Owl_Ix wrote: »

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

What bug? Ive heard about a bug relating to it before but i still dont know what it does.

Ill tell you a real bug though. You can reflect frozen retreat and it teleports you to the enemy and as long as the reflecting enemy stands in the field it will reflect you and essentially permaroot you and damage you too. We tested it too and it killed me when my friend used dk reflect and the snb ulti.

You cant teleport to your shade anymore if theres a difference in height. So you cant plave it on a keep, jump down and teleport back up.
You and your shadow need to be on the same height level for it to work atm.

And still dks cant leap onto walls or chain ppl down when they stand on the edge, with no obstacle in the way....

That was changed 2 years ago or even earlier. There was a tiny issue with those two skills ahahah. You had dks leaping on wall constantly, and making defenses a real pain in the ass because one moment you were on the wall, the moment later in the middle of the enemy zerg.

Koolio

Thanks for leaving this broken AGAIN from at least November through January for the second year

fred4

xI_The_Owl_Ix wrote: »

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

What bug? Ive heard about a bug relating to it before but i still dont know what it does.

Ill tell you a real bug though. You can reflect frozen retreat and it teleports you to the enemy and as long as the reflecting enemy stands in the field it will reflect you and essentially permaroot you and damage you too. We tested it too and it killed me when my friend used dk reflect and the snb ulti.

You cant teleport to your shade anymore if theres a difference in height. So you cant plave it on a keep, jump down and teleport back up.
You and your shadow need to be on the same height level for it to work atm.

This is not the whole truth. As far as I can see Jaxaxo is right:

You cannot teleport at different heights in resource towers. Also not in keeps, if he says so. It works fine in other places, however, such as back to the spawn platform, in IC, and in some open world places that have steep walls.

You also can't activate it anymore while falling. On the other hand, the Psijic Undo ulti works while doing so.

No idea whether these changes are intentional, but they sure kill the fun of playing with the shade. The inconsistency is frustrating, as you have to figure out where the shade will work, and where it won't. I'd rather wish it worked in all cases, including when falling, as that is such a fun thing to do.

Kingslayer513

Nice, another stealth nerf nobody asked for that makes the game less fun to play. I'm thrilled.

Koolio

See title

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Datthaw

Lol give it up. We went like a year with this skill actually really broken, they will look at this and shrug.

This will never get fixed, I have no faith in them to fix this skill

Dracane

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

Nice, another stealth nerf nobody asked for that makes the game less fun to play. I'm thrilled.

I asked for it.

Koolio

Datthaw wrote: »

Lol give it up. We went like a year with this skill actually really broken, they will look at this and shrug.

This will never get fixed, I have no faith in them to fix this skill

You must not know me very well. I will continue to pester them about this at least weekly until fix.

I have ran this rodeo before and I’ll do it again

Ragnarock41

Its not a bug, Its an intended change. Similar to their leap and chain ''fix''.

Savos_Saren

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Its not a bug, Its an intended change. Similar to their leap and chain ''fix''.

I wouldn't doubt it. Why would ZOS allow a NB to teleport himself back up to a wall after jumping down? A DK can't chain himself up to a wall after jumping down. Hell, I can't leap or chain someone that's a few steps up from me when I'm in a keep.

Xvorg

Nerftheforums wrote: »

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

xI_The_Owl_Ix wrote: »

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

What bug? Ive heard about a bug relating to it before but i still dont know what it does.

Ill tell you a real bug though. You can reflect frozen retreat and it teleports you to the enemy and as long as the reflecting enemy stands in the field it will reflect you and essentially permaroot you and damage you too. We tested it too and it killed me when my friend used dk reflect and the snb ulti.

You cant teleport to your shade anymore if theres a difference in height. So you cant plave it on a keep, jump down and teleport back up.
You and your shadow need to be on the same height level for it to work atm.

And still dks cant leap onto walls or chain ppl down when they stand on the edge, with no obstacle in the way....

That was changed 2 years ago or even earlier. There was a tiny issue with those two skills ahahah. You had dks leaping on wall constantly, and making defenses a real pain in the ass because one moment you were on the wall, the moment later in the middle of the enemy zerg.

It was an issue with dynamic ulti generation that allowed DK to keep on spaming skills after the ulti. That's not the case anymore, so it should come back, same as the chain pulls from the walls

Ragnarock41

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Its not a bug, Its an intended change. Similar to their leap and chain ''fix''.

I wouldn't doubt it. Why would ZOS allow a NB to teleport himself back up to a wall after jumping down? A DK can't chain himself up to a wall after jumping down. Hell, I can't leap or chain someone that's a few steps up from me when I'm in a keep.

For once Nb gets the DK treatment though, I am suprised.

evoniee

when the others *class are getting out of control nb cant even use their skill, also siphoning magicka is bugged most of the time
*everyone but dk and nb. dk and nb considered as a dead class for pvp right now.

Koolio

Thanks Zos

valeriiya

Koolio wrote: »

Thanks Zos

@Koolio they'll respond, they're just stuck in the lag
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Hi everyone. First of all, you aren't wrong. We agree we haven't been communicating as much as we should on this matter (among others) and for that, we apologize. There really is no excuse.