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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861
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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861
No free crates for new crate season ??
LordLomax
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Are we not going to receive any free crown crates for the new crate season ? As this will be the 3rd time no crates been offered . Eso plus event, daily login now new season ....!
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ApostateHobo✭✭✭✭✭
✭That'll be pretty crappy if they don't give any out, especially with how they're bringing in these gem exclusive items.9 -
NorthernNightmare✭✭✭✭✭ApostateHobo wrote: »That'll be pretty crappy if they don't give any out, especially with how they're bringing in these gem exclusive items.
I wonder if thats part of the reason why the free gems are limited?
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ApostateHobo✭✭✭✭✭
✭NorthernNightmare wrote: »ApostateHobo wrote: »That'll be pretty crappy if they don't give any out, especially with how they're bringing in these gem exclusive items.
I wonder if thats part of the reason why the free gems are limited?
*adjusts tinfoil hat*
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AlienSlof✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They're desperately trying to shoehorn people into buy those ridiculous, scammy, preditory crates. No, thank you. Wallet is staying shut.RIP Atherton, my beautiful little gentle friend. I will miss you forever. Without you I am a hollow shell.20 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Are we not going to receive any free crown crates for the new crate season ? As this will be the 3rd time no crates been offered . Eso plus event, daily login now new season ....!
I am sure that the number of free crates are tied to crate sales. The free crates are intended to get you started with Crown Crates. As they dial back on the free crates, players are expected to pick up the difference in the Crown Store.
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AlienSlof✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »Are we not going to receive any free crown crates for the new crate season ? As this will be the 3rd time no crates been offered . Eso plus event, daily login now new season ....!
I am sure that the number of free crates are tied to crate sales. The free crates are intended to get you started with Crown Crates. As they dial back on the free crates, players are expected to pick up the difference in the Crown Store.
Not happening. I've got a brain.RIP Atherton, my beautiful little gentle friend. I will miss you forever. Without you I am a hollow shell.13 -
Pajor✭✭✭✭They didn't give free crates because they don't want you saving gems for that ice cat mount that costs gems this month probably8 -
starlizard70ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They didn't give free crates because they don't want you saving gems for that ice cat mount that costs gems this month probably
That's why I've been holding on to the 400 gem sweet roll I got a few months ago.
Edited by starlizard70ub17_ESO on December 4, 2018 3:10PM"We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."1 -
Enokariel✭✭✭I know we have no true right to get those free crates, but I would like to hear froz ZOS official statement, if this shows complete change of their politics due to some reason or if it is only temporary state. Just curious and wishing to be sure how it is and will be.7 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »Are we not going to receive any free crown crates for the new crate season ? As this will be the 3rd time no crates been offered . Eso plus event, daily login now new season ....!
I am sure that the number of free crates are tied to crate sales. The free crates are intended to get you started with Crown Crates. As they dial back on the free crates, players are expected to pick up the difference in the Crown Store.
pats my 1000 gem stash Nope. Not getting any money out of me for these rng boxes.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord5 -
Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Giving away free crates is a marketing promotion - the idea is that having tried them for free you discover you really like them and/or really want some of the items included and then buy more.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if that didn't happen, it might even have backfired and lead to lower crate sales as players wait to see how many they can get for free before buying any and then forget about the stuff they really wanted/can't log in to get it at the end of the season.
It makes no sense (from a business perspective) to keep running a marketing promotion which isn't producing a good return on investment.
It's like complaining that the coffee place you'd go to just for the free espresso they gave out has stopped doing that because they worked out most people were only coming in for the free samples and never actually buying anything.
(Which means I'm disappointed too that they seem to have heavily cut back or stopped giving free crates, but I'm not surprised it happened because it always seemed clear to me this was intended to make more money for ZOS and if that's not happening they have no incentive to keep doing it.)PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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Palidon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Most likely ZOS was losing money on giving out free crates so they stopped it. Why buy them when they were giving them out for free. I know that was the only time I got crates when they were free.6 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It doesn't bother me.
If I like what a season offers, I get 1 pack of 15 crates each time, and that's it. Free crates on top of that are just a bonus. I was not a fan of what last season had to offer, so frankly I'm just glad that there's a season with decent stuff again.0 -
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✭✭lordrichter wrote: »Are we not going to receive any free crown crates for the new crate season ? As this will be the 3rd time no crates been offered . Eso plus event, daily login now new season ....!
I am sure that the number of free crates are tied to crate sales. The free crates are intended to get you started with Crown Crates. As they dial back on the free crates, players are expected to pick up the difference in the Crown Store.
pats my 1000 gem stash Nope. Not getting any money out of me for these rng boxes.
I've not bought crates either, but I only have 17 gems 'cuz I bought all the exclusive stuff from the crates that I'd missed out on from not buying them. I might have had that many if I'd never cashed any of them in.
Which leads to the point others have made. The free crates probably weren't generating new sales from players who'd never purchased before and were also probably cutting into the sales from their regular purchasers, since they were getting so many free gems and items without having to spend as much money.
Remember, crates are designed to get players to spend money. They are not designed to give you what you want at a reasonable price.
ETA: I liked getting free crates and will miss them, but I don't fault ZOS at all for not giving them out any more. They are under no obligation to do so, just because that had done so in the past. It may be that we'll see some crates in future daily rewards, but perhaps not. We all seem to forget that we're getting a LOT of free stuff from the daily rewards. Sure, most of it is filler, but we got a DLC last month, several pets, a costume, and now a mount this month (in addition to a couple of hats). They don't have to give us anything. Also, we all seem to forget the free pet, mount, and house we got not too long ago (sure it was a promotion, blah, blah blah...).Edited by Jayne_Doe on December 5, 2018 6:46PM0 -
skepticck✭✭lordrichter wrote: »Are we not going to receive any free crown crates for the new crate season ? As this will be the 3rd time no crates been offered . Eso plus event, daily login now new season ....!
I am sure that the number of free crates are tied to crate sales. The free crates are intended to get you started with Crown Crates. As they dial back on the free crates, players are expected to pick up the difference in the Crown Store.
If that's what they're expecting then they can continue to expect, at least from me, not only am i not buying any crates or crowns ever but i stopped subscribing and don't intend to sub again any time soon, i will never support greed.4 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »Are we not going to receive any free crown crates for the new crate season ? As this will be the 3rd time no crates been offered . Eso plus event, daily login now new season ....!
I am sure that the number of free crates are tied to crate sales. The free crates are intended to get you started with Crown Crates. As they dial back on the free crates, players are expected to pick up the difference in the Crown Store.
If that's what they're expecting then they can continue to expect, at least from me, not only am i not buying any crates or crowns ever but i stopped subscribing and don't intend to sub again any time soon, i will never support greed.
I have not purchased Crowns in almost a year now (Dec 21, 2017) and am not seeing a reason to do it in the future. I am still an ESO Plus subscriber, which is largely why I do not need to buy Crowns.
I don't subscribe for Crowns. I don't subscribe for Crown Crates, and have never considered them to be a benefit of ESO Plus. I am also not that interested in the new Crown Store "opportunities" that they have introduced. For me, any special tie-in with the Crown Store for ESO Plus is largely a wasted effort, unless the deal is compelling. That means FREE or at a silly low price.
Free crates only interest me to the point of collecting them. I don't care about Crown Crates beyond that. People ask me if I am going to record the grand opening of them, some day. In typical ZOS-speak, I have no plans to open them at this time. Once I open them, I can never get them back. Besides, my nearly 300 Crown Crates represent almost 300 Apex mounts. I don't need 300 Apex mounts.
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MarbleQuiche✭✭✭They're not losing out on money because of free crates. They're losing out on money because they're not selling things people want.
Internally, I bet that's their exuse, though. "Sales are down because our experimentation with X wasn't as successful as anticipated" rather than a more honest "Sales are down because we're not offering what players want."Currently obsessed with battlegrounds. Spamming here between rounds. Sometimes, when forums are particularly good, I skip ballerina around*
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pdebie64b16_ESO✭✭✭
In the end it does, still got 300+ gems by free crates only, but no way i will ever buy crates for those rip off prices.3 -
TheMythicDawn✭✭✭✭✭this, the reduced twitch crates and now crate items that cant be gem converted (trash dye stamps)
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Alchemical✭✭✭✭✭There's probably going to be a Crown Sale closer to December, so crates will effectively be half-off, and people will doubtlessly be buying a lot more of them. They probably are hoping to bait people in to blowing their Christmas money on crates and so they don't want people holding out for free ones.0 -
Pajor✭✭✭✭I just spent 179.99 on crates, gave me 64 of them and 806 crown gems I'm at. I can't believe I did that so I could get gems for the frost cat mount this month.Edited by Pajor on December 7, 2018 9:27PM0
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Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Alchemical wrote: »There's probably going to be a Crown Sale closer to December, so crates will effectively be half-off, and people will doubtlessly be buying a lot more of them. They probably are hoping to bait people in to blowing their Christmas money on crates and so they don't want people holding out for free ones.
Based on previous crown sales it'll be more like 20% - 30% off. We haven't had a 1/2 price sale for a long time.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
"Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"3
