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Ok seriously, the event needs to be extended....
neo7185
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I expect interruptions during most events and usually don't pay much attention to people wanting extra time for every single maintenance, downtime, etc. But so far I've only been able to get through all my toons one time. Every other night I've made it through 4-5 toons at best because activity finder is so broken (Just happened again). I know better than to ask for that to be fixed, so could you at least extend the event.....
Edited by neo7185 on December 4, 2018 3:34AM 14
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Bhaal5✭✭✭✭✭
✭Give zenimax a xmas gift of
Cancelling those subscriptions, dont buy those over priced crowns. And for the crowns you do have, leave that "christmas showcase" alone.
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Garrick✭✭✭I support extending the event!
What with servers down, login server fails and constant Dungeon Finder issues, I've probably run fewer than half as many random dungeons as I thought I would. It's not about Event Tickers - I am maxed out. I would have liked a shot at more Mystery Boxes.5 -
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✭I wonder what system you guys are on ... on PC-EU, I could do every random dungeon I wanted with relative ease..2 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭To be fair I dont really see the reason why it should be extended. Most important thing during that event which are event tickets can be obtained by 1 character doing dungeon without group finder and rest is just free stuff Zenimax was never obliged to give and they were never stating that You'll be able to get 100% of boxes possible to obtain. Like seriously not being able to get daily 8+ boxes by people is that huge issue ? Other then in events where they were actually extending durations due to game issues in this particular event content of the boxes is not the part of any collectible/achievement etc only obtainable during the event and there isnt also XP bonus so there is literally no reason to make event longer.
Edited by Juhasow on December 4, 2018 6:33AM3 -
eklhaftb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭To be fair I dont really see the reason why it should be extended.
Because it costs nothing, and the customers are expecting it, obviously. What better reason do you want?
Customer goodwill is possibly the most valuable thing in business. It's so valuable that it is better to sacrifice immediate profit than to lose customer goodwill - because money can be made elsewhere, but a customer lost is often lost forever.
Furthermore, there's only a limited number of potential customers, and new competition is born every day. Which means, when you have a business, you can't rely solely on new customers; you want existing customers to keep coming back for more. But, if you want people to keep coming back, you can't afford to alienate them, not even the slightest. People tend to remember negative things for longer than positive things - which means that to overwhelm any possible negative impressions, you have to shower the customer with positive impression all the time. Especially when it costs you nothing, or next to nothing. Like, for example, extending an automated, maintenance-free event (wink wink).9 -
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✭✭✭This game needs to be fixed. Events just make the existing issues exponentially worse.
The activity finder hasn't been working properly for much too long, as some other several stuff in this game."Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother [PS5][EU] 2165 CP
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Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »To be fair I dont really see the reason why it should be extended.
Because it costs nothing, and the customers are expecting it, obviously. What better reason do you want?
Customer goodwill is possibly the most valuable thing in business. It's so valuable that it is better to sacrifice immediate profit than to lose customer goodwill - because money can be made elsewhere, but a customer lost is often lost forever.
Furthermore, there's only a limited number of potential customers, and new competition is born every day. Which means, when you have a business, you can't rely solely on new customers; you want existing customers to keep coming back for more. But, if you want people to keep coming back, you can't afford to alienate them, not even the slightest. People tend to remember negative things for longer than positive things - which means that to overwhelm any possible negative impressions, you have to shower the customer with positive impression all the time. Especially when it costs you nothing, or next to nothing. Like, for example, extending an automated, maintenance-free event (wink wink).
Some of my friends simply stopped logging after failing to be able to do the event. I don't blame them. I also find it much more easier to read a book after ZOS' recent changes and actions. I really feel sorry for one of my friends, she was really looking forward to that Indrik mount. I can't imagine her disappointment since she has not logged since event was broken...2 -
MrGraves✭✭✭✭To be fair I dont really see the reason why it should be extended. Most important thing during that event which are event tickets can be obtained by 1 character doing dungeon without group finder and rest is just free stuff Zenimax was never obliged to give and they were never stating that You'll be able to get 100% of boxes possible to obtain. Like seriously not being able to get daily 8+ boxes by people is that huge issue ? Other then in events where they were actually extending durations due to game issues in this particular event content of the boxes is not the part of any collectible/achievement etc only obtainable during the event and there isnt also XP bonus so there is literally no reason to make event longer.
I'm not doing it for the tickets honestly. I don't really care about indrik mount that much. I will get the stuff for it but it's not why i do the events at all. I didnt do the CWC one at all simply cause... There was no reason for me to. Tickets didn't mean anything to me and neither did CWC stuff really. I don't need to complete the event on ALL my characters but the reason people want the event extended is mostly because not everyone has a big timeframe in which they can do the event. With jobs/school/etc. Personally I would like to do the event with my friends. Which have jobs/school and can't play for SO long or if they can it's on the week end. Which the Group finder was pretty much completely broken over that period of time.
Sure people don't NEED to do the event but since it was completely broken over the time most people would be able to participate and ends before the next weekend it would be nice if it was extended a little longer for the people that were sitting in queue for hours and not getting in because group finder was just broken. It was ZoS's mistake to run an event with a broken group finder and it negatively impacted alot of players. they have extended some events before in the past I believe when they had similar issues. I don't think it's too much to ask for this one to be extended. If they don't extend it it kind of shows that they... Aren't making it up to the players that had to deal with their mess.1 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »To be fair I dont really see the reason why it should be extended.
Because it costs nothing, and the customers are expecting it, obviously. What better reason do you want?
Customer goodwill is possibly the most valuable thing in business. It's so valuable that it is better to sacrifice immediate profit than to lose customer goodwill - because money can be made elsewhere, but a customer lost is often lost forever.
Furthermore, there's only a limited number of potential customers, and new competition is born every day. Which means, when you have a business, you can't rely solely on new customers; you want existing customers to keep coming back for more. But, if you want people to keep coming back, you can't afford to alienate them, not even the slightest. People tend to remember negative things for longer than positive things - which means that to overwhelm any possible negative impressions, you have to shower the customer with positive impression all the time. Especially when it costs you nothing, or next to nothing. Like, for example, extending an automated, maintenance-free event (wink wink).
Some of my friends simply stopped logging after failing to be able to do the event. I don't blame them. I also find it much more easier to read a book after ZOS' recent changes and actions. I really feel sorry for one of my friends, she was really looking forward to that Indrik mount. I can't imagine her disappointment since she has not logged since event was broken...
Group finder issues have nothing to do with how You get tickets. You obtain tickets simply by killing last boss in dungeon doesnt matter with or without group finder. You can even manually enter Fungal Grotto I on normal solo it and get 3 tickets so I think Your friend overreacted or she simply was uninformed of how to get tickets. Also there will be 1 more event with tickets so everyone should still have chance to get enough tickets to buy 2 feathers.Edited by Juhasow on December 5, 2018 5:43AM1 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭To be fair I dont really see the reason why it should be extended. Most important thing during that event which are event tickets can be obtained by 1 character doing dungeon without group finder and rest is just free stuff Zenimax was never obliged to give and they were never stating that You'll be able to get 100% of boxes possible to obtain. Like seriously not being able to get daily 8+ boxes by people is that huge issue ? Other then in events where they were actually extending durations due to game issues in this particular event content of the boxes is not the part of any collectible/achievement etc only obtainable during the event and there isnt also XP bonus so there is literally no reason to make event longer.
I'm not doing it for the tickets honestly. I don't really care about indrik mount that much. I will get the stuff for it but it's not why i do the events at all. I didnt do the CWC one at all simply cause... There was no reason for me to. Tickets didn't mean anything to me and neither did CWC stuff really. I don't need to complete the event on ALL my characters but the reason people want the event extended is mostly because not everyone has a big timeframe in which they can do the event. With jobs/school/etc. Personally I would like to do the event with my friends. Which have jobs/school and can't play for SO long or if they can it's on the week end. Which the Group finder was pretty much completely broken over that period of time.
Sure people don't NEED to do the event but since it was completely broken over the time most people would be able to participate and ends before the next weekend it would be nice if it was extended a little longer for the people that were sitting in queue for hours and not getting in because group finder was just broken. It was ZoS's mistake to run an event with a broken group finder and it negatively impacted alot of players. they have extended some events before in the past I believe when they had similar issues. I don't think it's too much to ask for this one to be extended. If they don't extend it it kind of shows that they... Aren't making it up to the players that had to deal with their mess.
Yeah right people also need to walk with their dogs , have some movies to watch , food to eat , they need to also sleep. Should event be also extended because of that ? I am pretty much sure Zenimax devs are aware people have their lives but lets be honest if they would have to extend event because someone have something to do then event would last full year. Devs gives time frame for the event if Your life doesnt allow You to partcipate then sorry s*** happens.
Group finder always have issues under higher pressure , it's not sudden suprise. I think people just builded up too high expectations and forgot reality and how overcrowding of servers not only in ESO but in MMOs in general can influence server performance. You say it's a ZoS mistake to run event with broken GF ? You know they were never obliged to run event at all in 1st place. Previous events were extended because main features like getting achievements or collectibles were failing. Here it's just free stuff You can get outside of the event so no reason for extention.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »To be fair I dont really see the reason why it should be extended.
Because it costs nothing, and the customers are expecting it, obviously. What better reason do you want?
Customer goodwill is possibly the most valuable thing in business. It's so valuable that it is better to sacrifice immediate profit than to lose customer goodwill - because money can be made elsewhere, but a customer lost is often lost forever.
Furthermore, there's only a limited number of potential customers, and new competition is born every day. Which means, when you have a business, you can't rely solely on new customers; you want existing customers to keep coming back for more. But, if you want people to keep coming back, you can't afford to alienate them, not even the slightest. People tend to remember negative things for longer than positive things - which means that to overwhelm any possible negative impressions, you have to shower the customer with positive impression all the time. Especially when it costs you nothing, or next to nothing. Like, for example, extending an automated, maintenance-free event (wink wink).
Of course it costs something. Additional work hours of developers. Customers expectations were just too high and kinda unreal and to be fair many ppl right now act like a spoiled childs demanding something that was never promised to them at 1st place. Well for customer goodwill they launch their events at 1st place , they really dont have to do it yet they pack the game with one event after another.
You know in buisness You need to find balance between bending to some of the customers requests and holding Your ground against other requests because if You would always bend then customers would eat You alive at certain point. When game issues were actually making problems like people being unable to collect certain achievements or collectibles tha were obtainable only during event extending was on place right now extending the event would be just further spoling already spoiled community and people would demand more and more. Soon we would start to see posts like "new life festival should be extended because there were christmass and I couldn't play"... There is also new event right after current one ends so extending current one would cause overlaping and it's not like group finder would work better with even more ppl aboard.Edited by Juhasow on December 5, 2018 6:09AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »To be fair I dont really see the reason why it should be extended.
Because it costs nothing, and the customers are expecting it, obviously. What better reason do you want?
Customer goodwill is possibly the most valuable thing in business. It's so valuable that it is better to sacrifice immediate profit than to lose customer goodwill - because money can be made elsewhere, but a customer lost is often lost forever.
Furthermore, there's only a limited number of potential customers, and new competition is born every day. Which means, when you have a business, you can't rely solely on new customers; you want existing customers to keep coming back for more. But, if you want people to keep coming back, you can't afford to alienate them, not even the slightest. People tend to remember negative things for longer than positive things - which means that to overwhelm any possible negative impressions, you have to shower the customer with positive impression all the time. Especially when it costs you nothing, or next to nothing. Like, for example, extending an automated, maintenance-free event (wink wink).
Of course it costs something. Additional work hours of developers. Customers expectations were just too high and kinda unreal and to be fair many ppl right now act like a spoiled childs demanding something that was never promised to them at 1st place. Well for customer goodwill they launch their events at 1st place , they really dont have to do it yet they pack the game with one event after another.
You know in buisness You need to find balance between bending to some of the customers requests and holding Your ground against other requests because if You would always bend then customers would eat You alive at certain point. When game issues were actually making problems like people being unable to collect certain achievements or collectibles tha were obtainable only during event extending was on place right now extending the event would be just further spoling already spoiled community and people would demand more and more. Soon we would start to see posts like "new life festival should be extended because there were christmass and I couldn't play"... There is also new event right after current one ends so extending current one would cause overlaping and it's not like group finder would work better with even more ppl aboard.
Expecting something to work that ZOS offered without the community asking for it equals spoiled. Got it.2 -
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✭Nah let it die (the event). Hopefully next year they can do right by the players but their track record doesn’t give much hope.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I took my one character and soloed normal fungal 1 twice for a total of 6 tickets last night and tonight plus the 5 i already had and got the feather with a couple hours to spare. I hadnt even logged in for the last weekish either. I guess this is about those boxes that i didnt get doing it my way but the main reason for these events is for the feathers. You could get 10 tickets in 4 nights.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
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✭✭✭✭✭AbysmalGhul wrote: »NoMoreChillies wrote: »vote with your wallets folks
Will never happen
I did. On a related note, was running Spindle 1, got to last boss and we killed it while it was making the screen go white, and that caused me a maxed out ping spike and another of our group to get booted lol. Reason #4678 I’m glad I’ve long since unsubscribed.1 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »To be fair I dont really see the reason why it should be extended.
Because it costs nothing, and the customers are expecting it, obviously. What better reason do you want?
Customer goodwill is possibly the most valuable thing in business. It's so valuable that it is better to sacrifice immediate profit than to lose customer goodwill - because money can be made elsewhere, but a customer lost is often lost forever.
Furthermore, there's only a limited number of potential customers, and new competition is born every day. Which means, when you have a business, you can't rely solely on new customers; you want existing customers to keep coming back for more. But, if you want people to keep coming back, you can't afford to alienate them, not even the slightest. People tend to remember negative things for longer than positive things - which means that to overwhelm any possible negative impressions, you have to shower the customer with positive impression all the time. Especially when it costs you nothing, or next to nothing. Like, for example, extending an automated, maintenance-free event (wink wink).
Of course it costs something. Additional work hours of developers. Customers expectations were just too high and kinda unreal and to be fair many ppl right now act like a spoiled childs demanding something that was never promised to them at 1st place. Well for customer goodwill they launch their events at 1st place , they really dont have to do it yet they pack the game with one event after another.
You know in buisness You need to find balance between bending to some of the customers requests and holding Your ground against other requests because if You would always bend then customers would eat You alive at certain point. When game issues were actually making problems like people being unable to collect certain achievements or collectibles tha were obtainable only during event extending was on place right now extending the event would be just further spoling already spoiled community and people would demand more and more. Soon we would start to see posts like "new life festival should be extended because there were christmass and I couldn't play"... There is also new event right after current one ends so extending current one would cause overlaping and it's not like group finder would work better with even more ppl aboard.
Expecting something to work that ZOS offered without the community asking for it equals spoiled. Got it.
Unfortunetly You did not got it.0 -
Sanguinor2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Of course it costs something. Additional work hours of developers. Customers expectations were just too high and kinda unreal and to be fair many ppl right now act like a spoiled childs demanding something that was never promised to them at 1st place.
I find it very amusing how expecting the game we all payed for, and are still paying for with subscriptions in many cases, to work in all cases is "too high and unreal". Feel free to correct me but if you were to buy lets say a new gaming PC, you get it delivered and after setting everything up you realize, damn my GPU doesnt work, you wouldnt just sit down and say "well expecting everything i payed for to work is too high of an expectation and kinda unreal"?
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✭✭✭AbysmalGhul wrote: »NoMoreChillies wrote: »vote with your wallets folks
Will never happen
Happened here. No more money to Zenimax from me until they shape up.RIP Atherton, my beautiful little gentle friend. I will miss you forever. Without you I am a hollow shell.2 -
lagrue✭✭✭✭✭
✭I wonder what system you guys are on ... on PC-EU, I could do every random dungeon I wanted with relative ease..
PS4 NA, same here. Only bad experience I had the whole event was getting thrown into a dungeon where a player was trying to reset it or some crap, and it didn't work so he wasted everybody's time and gave us all queue cooldowns. Basically a player/moron caused problem.PSN ID (NA only): Zuzu_With_a_Z
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MrGraves✭✭✭✭Yeah right people also need to walk with their dogs , have some movies to watch , food to eat , they need to also sleep. Should event be also extended because of that ? I am pretty much sure Zenimax devs are aware people have their lives but lets be honest if they would have to extend event because someone have something to do then event would last full year. Devs gives time frame for the event if Your life doesnt allow You to partcipate then sorry s*** happens.
Group finder always have issues under higher pressure , it's not sudden suprise. I think people just builded up too high expectations and forgot reality and how overcrowding of servers not only in ESO but in MMOs in general can influence server performance. You say it's a ZoS mistake to run event with broken GF ? You know they were never obliged to run event at all in 1st place. Previous events were extended because main features like getting achievements or collectibles were failing. Here it's just free stuff You can get outside of the event so no reason for extention.
So achievements/collectibles failing vs the entire event save for feathers. Which isn't the only "goal" in the event as this was an event they did last year and there were no feathers to be seen then. And I get there's overcrowding in MMO'S especially with events like this but... This event runs from the 29th of november to the 5th of december where as the other "feather centric" events have much longer running time. Point is ZoS is gonna get backlash for running event in such a short timeframe without even fixing the same issue as last year or making it function a little different so it does run smoother. Putting an event out with a small time frame to do it and then also having it broken just really looks bad on the company if they don't 'make up' for it to the players. For example giving it a little more time for the time lost. Like I said no one NEEDS the event stuff. But ZoS put it out there knowing the GF tool was broken still as it has been for over a year. It's just bad business on their part especially to not even speak on the... really any of the matters that have been happening with this event really besides "we're gonna fix the gf tool" type stuff which... It's still broken.
I get they aren't gonna add more days because of stuff like "Oh no i had no power on friday bc there was an earthquake boohoo i didn't get to play that day much" cause that's something that they aren't responsible for at all but the GF tool is, and it's generally well known that not everyone can just play when there AREN'T as many players on rushing to get the event stuff.
I honestly wouldn't even care if they didn't run the event at all really but they decided too anyway and don't want to deal with any of the problems with it.
When a company does something and it goes wrong like that and they don't really... Do anything to like. Apologize or make up for it or anything it kinda just chases customers away and puts a bad taste in their mouth since it just shows the company isn't very reliable or responsible? Most of the backlash is likely not because people cant do the event but that ZoS isn't showing much signs of improving and without peoples input/saying what they want from ZoS it's harder for ZoS to know what they can improve on.2 -
swippy✭✭✭✭✭no way! we're almost completely finished with this one! i'm looking forward to finding out what the new Forum Whinefest is going to be.1 -
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✭Good luck on getting this event extended. Same thing happened last year and ZOS did not extend it.0
