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What huge crown houses for if you still can't put all your stuff there?
Malem_Benign
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Hello there,
Just curious, what was the purpose to limit the stuff even in huge crown houses?
You spend 10-20K crowns and you still can't put your new pet there? Funny.
That's the topic above other house management "issues" like that you can't share your house with whom you want...
Just curious, what was the purpose to limit the stuff even in huge crown houses?
You spend 10-20K crowns and you still can't put your new pet there? Funny.
That's the topic above other house management "issues" like that you can't share your house with whom you want...
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Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I guess they are worried about excess server load if your house zone has to draw too many items. Yet they keep introducing more and more animated furnishings, so who really knows. And there's an obvious cash cow available if they ever decide to put extra housing slots in the Crown Store, because I know they would sell a lot of those packages. But they don't even do that. And they have remained silent about the issue for years. So don't hold your breath looking for answers.
Yet another communication opportunity available, but rejected by ZOS customer liaisons.2 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Last time ZOS talked about it before Summerset, they blamed console performance for housing slot limits. So unless that changes or they instance the outside/inside of homes, I wouldn't get your hopes up.0 -
Kalik_Gold✭✭✭✭✭
✭Would rather furnish a few smaller homes, although no one can visit my non primary.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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Malem_Benign✭✭✭I guess they are worried about excess server load if your house zone has to draw too many items. Yet they keep introducing more and more animated furnishings, so who really knows. And there's an obvious cash cow available if they ever decide to put extra housing slots in the Crown Store, because I know they would sell a lot of those packages. But they don't even do that. And they have remained silent about the issue for years. So don't hold your breath looking for answers.
Yet another communication opportunity available, but rejected by ZOS customer liaisons.
Feels like no matter what question will be asked it will remain unanswered
Maybe it's time to compile the Community FAQ to highlight not only the questions, but the lack of answers Edited by Malem_Benign on November 23, 2018 12:36PM2 -
Malem_Benign✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Last time ZOS talked about it before Summerset, they blamed console performance for housing slot limits. So unless that changes or they instance the outside/inside of homes, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Kind of odd excuse if so. There are enough cross-platform games with rich building systems as main gameplay feature and they don't suffer such issues.0 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Malem_Benign wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Last time ZOS talked about it before Summerset, they blamed console performance for housing slot limits. So unless that changes or they instance the outside/inside of homes, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Kind of odd excuse if so. There are enough cross-platform games with rich building systems as main gameplay feature and they don't suffer such issues.
Remember that ESO was never designed to have a housing system. This was added long after decisions were made that probably defined those limits. If it were easy to change those decisions, they would have probably done it already.0 -
Malem_Benign✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Last time ZOS talked about it before Summerset, they blamed console performance for housing slot limits. So unless that changes or they instance the outside/inside of homes, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Kind of odd excuse if so. There are enough cross-platform games with rich building systems as main gameplay feature and they don't suffer such issues.
Remember that ESO was never designed to have a housing system. This was added long after decisions were made that probably defined those limits. If it were easy to change those decisions, they would have probably done it already.
Possibly you're right, but the questions is still open when you deliver some half measure but take the full price.Edited by Malem_Benign on November 23, 2018 1:22PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Malem_Benign wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Last time ZOS talked about it before Summerset, they blamed console performance for housing slot limits. So unless that changes or they instance the outside/inside of homes, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Kind of odd excuse if so. There are enough cross-platform games with rich building systems as main gameplay feature and they don't suffer such issues.
Remember that ESO was never designed to have a housing system. This was added long after decisions were made that probably defined those limits. If it were easy to change those decisions, they would have probably done it already.
Possibly you're right, but the questions is still open when you deliver some half measure but take the full price.
They take what people are willing to spend. ESO already has a reputation for being a game with a spendy cash shop, and people are still spending cash.0 -
Gythral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Emptying your RL bank account, they have no other purpose
(well maybe as a wayshrine - except most are so far from anything even this is questionable)“Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy0 -
Malem_Benign✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Last time ZOS talked about it before Summerset, they blamed console performance for housing slot limits. So unless that changes or they instance the outside/inside of homes, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Kind of odd excuse if so. There are enough cross-platform games with rich building systems as main gameplay feature and they don't suffer such issues.
Remember that ESO was never designed to have a housing system. This was added long after decisions were made that probably defined those limits. If it were easy to change those decisions, they would have probably done it already.
Possibly you're right, but the questions is still open when you deliver some half measure but take the full price.
They take what people are willing to spend. ESO already has a reputation for being a game with a spendy cash shop, and people are still spending cash.
People are always the same. That's why taking leadership in any business should imply greater responsibility 0 -
Malem_Benign✭✭✭Emptying your RL bank account, they have no other purpose
(well maybe as a wayshrine - except most are so far from anything even this is questionable)
Well that seems more realistic to me too. Isn't it a good "marketing" to force you to buy more and more houses just to put all that "precious" stuff you get alond the way 0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I have been asking ZOS to include more medium houses that we actually have a chance of fully furnishing, but nope, Murkmire has another ridiculous sprawling mansion that will forever feel empty and unfurnished.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Malem_Benign wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Last time ZOS talked about it before Summerset, they blamed console performance for housing slot limits. So unless that changes or they instance the outside/inside of homes, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Kind of odd excuse if so. There are enough cross-platform games with rich building systems as main gameplay feature and they don't suffer such issues.
Remember that ESO was never designed to have a housing system. This was added long after decisions were made that probably defined those limits. If it were easy to change those decisions, they would have probably done it already.
Possibly you're right, but the questions is still open when you deliver some half measure but take the full price.
I'm confused as to how they are doing so. You knew the housing limits when you bought the house, yes? And you know that ZOS hasn't made any comments about increasing limits?
So we can argue.over whether ZOS should add more slots (yes) or if they even can add more slots (apparently not), but claiming you only got half measure for full price seems odd to me.0 -
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✭✭✭Malem_Benign wrote: »Emptying your RL bank account, they have no other purpose
(well maybe as a wayshrine - except most are so far from anything even this is questionable)
Well that seems more realistic to me too. Isn't it a good "marketing" to force you to buy more and more houses just to put all that "precious" stuff you get alond the way
They could have gone a cheaper route tbh, 30% isn't that much of a sale especially with no crown sale I just bought 2 witcher Goty editions for nearly 18$ each on ps4 / xbox one for the price of 50% of one of the 15k crown houses on sale. Really wish they had a better sale on this stuff1 -
Malem_Benign✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Last time ZOS talked about it before Summerset, they blamed console performance for housing slot limits. So unless that changes or they instance the outside/inside of homes, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Kind of odd excuse if so. There are enough cross-platform games with rich building systems as main gameplay feature and they don't suffer such issues.
Remember that ESO was never designed to have a housing system. This was added long after decisions were made that probably defined those limits. If it were easy to change those decisions, they would have probably done it already.
Possibly you're right, but the questions is still open when you deliver some half measure but take the full price.
I'm confused as to how they are doing so. You knew the housing limits when you bought the house, yes? And you know that ZOS hasn't made any comments about increasing limits?
So we can argue.over whether ZOS should add more slots (yes) or if they even can add more slots (apparently not), but claiming you only got half measure for full price seems odd to me.
Well first of all, this is why I haven't bought it yet. Along with the lack of normal house sharing system.
And yes I'm always curious why not make the things right 0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »Possibly you're right, but the questions is still open when you deliver some half measure but take the full price.
I'm confused as to how they are doing so. You knew the housing limits when you bought the house, yes? And you know that ZOS hasn't made any comments about increasing limits?
So we can argue.over whether ZOS should add more slots (yes) or if they even can add more slots (apparently not), but claiming you only got half measure for full price seems odd to me.
While I can't argue with the concept of "buy only what you are getting, not what you are expecting", ZOS has muddied the waters by making references to the fact that they are looking into ways to increase the limits. It is understandable why people would look to ZOS to follow through. People have to realize that ZOS has about a billion things they would like to do, and we are going to get about 6 of them. All 6 of them will be released half finished. Edited by Elsonso on November 23, 2018 3:01PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »Possibly you're right, but the questions is still open when you deliver some half measure but take the full price.
I'm confused as to how they are doing so. You knew the housing limits when you bought the house, yes? And you know that ZOS hasn't made any comments about increasing limits?
So we can argue.over whether ZOS should add more slots (yes) or if they even can add more slots (apparently not), but claiming you only got half measure for full price seems odd to me.
While I can't argue with the concept of "buy only what you are getting, not what you are expecting", ZOS has muddied the waters by making references to the fact that they are looking into ways to increase the limits. It is understandable why people would look to ZOS to follow through. People have to realize that ZOS has about a billion things they would like to do, and we are going to get about 6 of them. All 6 of them will be half finished.
In that case my answer would be keep an eye on the announcements and buy it if/when the change is happening. Buying now in the hope that they will change it eventually is extremely risky.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
"Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"1 -
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✭✭✭Visit the homes of people who bought those and enjoy them to see what they are for.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The problem with permanent additions is that there's no going back. They have to unconditionally work as intended and can't have unexpected negative side effects.
So adding to the furnishing cap can't be rushed. Because while people hate having things changed, they really REALLY hate having things taken away from them. Especially if others may have benefitted in some way prior to that removal.
I do agree that some of the Crown instances are needlessly extravagant and could maybe benefit from their own sigil system to help with both building and mobility. But there's also something charming about leaving undeveloped space and appreciating the base design. And you can do a lot with the current caps. Not everything... but I've seen some amazing things that are a mixture of creativity and careful editing.signing off0 -
Juponen✭✭✭Never been a fan of the ESO housing system beyond the nice free teleporting benefit but since they gave us the Grand Psijic Villa for free I decided to to try my hand in decorating. And immediately ran into the max. 10 Special collectibles limit. And yes I have a ESO Plus account.
To think that the ancient 2002 ES III, well its mods to be fair, could deliver better housing to display our assorted memorabilia, with display cases for oddities and dummies for armorsets...
I really can't understand why anyone would spend real money on ESO houses as they are now.0 -
leandro.800ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭Solution is decon furnishings creating special materials that can de used for other furnishings
I have so mutch trash stuff in other houses (not main) that are only using server space0 -
Malem_Benign✭✭✭The thing that I like the most, is that in every thread, no matter is there any reasonable statements or not, will always transform into players dispute that brings the conversation far and far away from the first words that was said.
Why blame ZoS for low communication in that case? 0