Whats the best overland sets for stamina nightblade?

Lab3360

Starting a dual wield/2hnd stamblade pve. I know the meta is bow dual wield. Doing something different.

What are the best combo of sets overland I can get for starters?

This is a 459cp character.

Vildebill

If you're only using overland sets (and crafted?) I would go with hundings on body and spriggan weapons and jewelery. Veiled hertiance is also good but hundings is almost equal but easier to get if you can craft it or having someone craft it for you. Briarheart is also good but pretty expensive.

MaxJrFTW

Veiled Heritance, Spriggan, Briarheart, Unfathomable Darkness, Shadow of the Red Mountain. Those are the strongest overland sets.

John_Falstaff

@GreenhaloX , I feel that you're stressing PvP context (what Innate Axiom or Shacklebreaker will do to PvE build?). I have Briarheart, and I can tell that with a few DoTs rolling, it procs straight off cooldown. DKS is almost useless as it gives buff that's taken much easier from potions. VO/TFS are beside the point (the topic starter asks about overland sets). Ravager is useless on anything but stamplar (the OP is nightblade), can't keep good uptime on it and it ends up worse than Veiled Heritance (which is a good set, though requires transmutation).

Briarheart is good in terms of availability. Daggers are a matter of half an hour to acquire, unlike with many other sets.

vgabor

Equipment:

• Hundings: although crafted and not overland, it is a very good overall set for a stam character, up and including end game even. Later you can switch to Relequen but I'd still keep the hundings in reserve for high mobility fights.
  
• Spriggans: don't underestimate the importance of penetration, especially on low/med CP characters where you cannot yet put enough cp into penetration. Later you can switch this to Twice Fang (but only in PVE, PVP I think spriggans still better), and I can tell you from experience that with 400+cp and hundings+spriggans you are good for nSO trials.
  
• Selene: while monster sets are definitely not overland, with 460 cp and hundings and spriggans equipped you should have no problem getting a selene helm, that dungeon is not that hard.

Equipment upgrades: gold your weapon, armors are fine in purple, and don't bother upgrading jewellery, it's too expensive (and you can grind purple jewellery in dolmens easily)

Rotation: equipment just one part of the things, you should nail down and practice your rotation too, as your rotation has much more impact on your dps than your equipment. Use training dummies, either from your guild if they have in the guild house, but you can actually buy one for yourself, usually there are training dummies at several guild traders for around 40-50k gold.

susmitds

Briarheart is one of the best PvE stamina sets. Spriggan is easily the best PvP stamina set and is good for PvE as well.

Sparr0w

Briar/Spriggans would be my pick for best overland sets you can just equip.

Veiled is the 2nd best set after Advancing (trial) but is heavy so needs transmutting.

Hundings is a decent all round set that's also crafted.

Decent monster sets from order of easiest to get to hardest to get are Kra'ghs/Selenes/Stormfist/Velidreth however Velidreth is the best.

You will want to go full medium for max damage & sustain, with 3x infused weapons beserking, poison and absorb stamina. Running this will allow you to use blue food for more health.

ezio45

the delete set, it drops in the character screen zone

Jaraal

All my stamblades also double as money making thieves, so they wear Night Terror (detection radius + 2k per second poison proc, easy to farm) and Night's Silence (removes sneak speed penalty, easy to craft) as they are leveling up. They wear Briarheart and a dungeon set when they hit lvl 50.

GreenhaloX

susmitds wrote: »

Briarheart is one of the best PvE stamina sets. Spriggan is easily the best PvP stamina set and is good for PvE as well.

If those work for you, it's cool. No judging on your build. However, there are other overland sets better for stam; such as Innate Axiom, Red Mountain, Shacklebreaker, Mech Acuity, just to name some. There also some other good sets if you're willing to farm trial and dungeons for; such as VO, Twice Fangs or Sword Dancer for the DW. VO, Sword-Singer and Sunderflame are also good for 2H. Heck, if you can transmute Ravager jewelries into Robust, this set is better than Briarheart, and looks a lot better too. Briarheart just take too many proc. You have to hit crit first, then the 5-piece proc. So those are two proc chances you have to wait on. Screw that, and for a merely 300 and something extra wpn dam. Ehh.. Heck, I'll even take Dreugh King over Briarheart. Hey, then again, it's just me. Well, of course, a set/build is just part of it. You need to also use the right/best skills/abilities and effective rotations.

UndeniablyAVG

I would not recommend Innate Axiom for a stam class, too much damage comes from weapon abilities that it does not affect.

GreenhaloX

John_Falstaff wrote: »

@GreenhaloX , I feel that you're stressing PvP context. I have Briarheart, and I can tell that with a few DoTs rolling, it procs straight off cooldown. DKS is almost useless as it gives buff that's taken much easier from potions. VO/TFS are beside the point (the topic starter asks about overland sets). Ravager is useless on anything but stamplar (the OP is nightblade), can't keep good uptime on it and it ends up worse than Veiled Heritance (which is a good set, though requires transmutation).

Briarheart is good in terms of availability. Daggers are a matter of half an hour to acquire, unlike with many other sets.

Like I said.. whatever works for you. I'm not judging anyone's set or build they want to roll around with. It's your toon; to each their own. I am also not stressing PvP, and I know the title of this thread. I was addressing the other trials and dungeon pieces just as mentionable to include other options other than the typical overland's; which shouldn't hurt this thread at all. Also, I mostly PvE and soloing at that. I have tested and played around with practically every overland sets and pieces for several years now. I mean, any overland set will work for PvE, but in the context of what I believe is better; well, Briarheart just don't cut it for me, and Veiled Heritance, for that matters. Hey, then again, if those work for you, it's cool. It's your toon and build. Plus, Briarheart has gotta be the worst looking set in the game. That alone just deters me from using it. Ha ha

John_Falstaff

@GreenhaloX , well, we're talking OP's specific class (nightblade), build (DW / 2H) and target area (PvE) now. ^^ That narrows our scope some. So I'm just commenting on why some sets you mentioned won't really perform. Ravager is right out (not stamplar), DKS right out (not very useful to begin with because of redundant buff, and OP runs 2H so he can use Rally... and not overland in fact), Shacklebreaker is a PvP set, Innate Axiom likewise (gives +100 WD on class abilities by comparison and -300 WD on everything else - not worth it). I don't doubt that those sets can work for specific builds and circumstances, but... not in OP's case.

As for looks - I think that with outfitting systems, those concerns are long gone and forgotten. ^^

GreenhaloX

John_Falstaff wrote: »

@GreenhaloX , well, we're talking OP's specific class (nightblade), build (DW / 2H) and target area (PvE) now. ^^ That narrows our scope some. So I'm just commenting on why some sets you mentioned won't really perform. Ravager is right out (not stamplar), DKS right out (not very useful to begin with because of redundant buff, and OP runs 2H so he can use Rally... and not overland in fact), Shacklebreaker is a PvP set, Innate Axiom likewise (gives +100 WD on class abilities by comparison and -300 WD on everything else - not worth it). I don't doubt that those sets can work for specific builds and circumstances, but... not in OP's case.

As for looks - I think that with outfitting systems, those concerns are long gone and forgotten. ^^

I appreciate your feedback and insight, but damn, your points in using the numbers and calculations just make my head hurt already. This isn't MIT, man. Press attack, 1, 2, 3, adds done, boss dead. Yayy.. it's a video game. Ha ha. Plus, I look good in doing so without the ugly Briarheart. Nahh, don't use the outfit system; don't need it. Ok.. we're just going to have to agree to disagree. No just cause for debating here. To each their own; your toon, not mine..

OP, dude, if you want to use the Briarheart, go for it. It will work just fine for PvE..

Narvuntien

Spriggan's, Hundings Rage is basic gear that gets the job done.

I went and did craglorn trials enough times to get two fanged strike that's easy enough to do.

Striken7

GreenhaloX wrote: »

I appreciate your feedback and insight, but damn, your points in using the numbers and calculations just make my head hurt already. This isn't MIT, man. Press attack, 1, 2, 3, adds done, boss dead. Yayy.. it's a video game. Ha ha. Plus, I look good in doing so without the ugly Briarheart. Nahh, don't use the outfit system; don't need it. Ok.. we're just going to have to agree to disagree. No just cause for debating here. To each their own; your toon, not mine..

OP, dude, if you want to use the Briarheart, go for it. It will work just fine for PvE..

The thread isn't about what you think works for your toon either though. From the OP's perspective, your suggestions just aren't good for what was asked (such as Heavy/PvP/Trial sets). It's not "debating" to point out to the OP when what they are being told is bad advice.

For a starter PvE DPS stamblade looking for overland sets, Briarheart and Spriggan's are the go-to's for a reason. Spriggan's in particular is going to boost dps a lot just from the penetration. Suggesting you don't use it just because of how it looks when the Outfit system exists is enough to question your other points.

Speaking of which, with high enough crit and multiple DoT's, it's pretty easy to keep the Briarheart uptime around 50% or better. That puts it on par with Hunding's in terms of damage plus the extra healing. Your testing of practically every overland set for several years must have missed that.

FrancisCrawford

Sparr0w wrote: »

Decent monster sets from order of easiest to get to hardest to get are Kra'ghs/Selenes/Stormfist/Velidreth however Velidreth is the best.

Sellestrix should be on that list. It actually procs at times even if you're at bow range.

Facefister

• Monster Set: Kra'gh, all Medium, all Divines with Stamina Enchants
• Armor: Hunding's Rage, all Medium, all Divines with Stamina Enchants
• Mainbar: Infused Unfathomable Darkness Dagger(Disease Enchant), Precise Unfathomable Darkness Axe(Weapon Damage Enchant)
• Backbar: Infused Unfathomable Darkness Bow(Poison Enchant)
• Mundus: The Lover or The Warrior

The setup listed above is really easy to get, it's not meta but it will carry you through every content in this game, as long as you bring enough expertise and skill with you.

GreenhaloX

Striken7 wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

I appreciate your feedback and insight, but damn, your points in using the numbers and calculations just make my head hurt already. This isn't MIT, man. Press attack, 1, 2, 3, adds done, boss dead. Yayy.. it's a video game. Ha ha. Plus, I look good in doing so without the ugly Briarheart. Nahh, don't use the outfit system; don't need it. Ok.. we're just going to have to agree to disagree. No just cause for debating here. To each their own; your toon, not mine..

OP, dude, if you want to use the Briarheart, go for it. It will work just fine for PvE..

The thread isn't about what you think works for your toon either though. From the OP's perspective, your suggestions just aren't good for what was asked (such as Heavy/PvP/Trial sets). It's not "debating" to point out to the OP when what they are being told is bad advice.

For a starter PvE DPS stamblade looking for overland sets, Briarheart and Spriggan's are the go-to's for a reason. Spriggan's in particular is going to boost dps a lot just from the penetration. Suggesting you don't use it just because of how it looks when the Outfit system exists is enough to question your other points.

Speaking of which, with high enough crit and multiple DoT's, it's pretty easy to keep the Briarheart uptime around 50% or better. That puts it on par with Hunding's in terms of damage plus the extra healing. Your testing of practically every overland set for several years must have missed that.

Touche.. ha ha ha. Hey, whatever works for you. There's nothing wrong with standing up for your Briarheart and Spriggans. Some does fine in AAA and the minor league..

Abigail

My killa bow-bow stamblade uses 5x spriggins, 4x hundings, 3x gladiator (bows and 1 pc armor). I do love all that crit!

Definitely not meta, but she plays really well for me, and I can say it's not cookie cutter

Lab3360

ezio45 wrote: »

the delete set, it drops in the character screen zone

vgabor wrote: »

Equipment:

• Hundings: although crafted and not overland, it is a very good overall set for a stam character, up and including end game even. Later you can switch to Relequen but I'd still keep the hundings in reserve for high mobility fights.
  
• Spriggans: don't underestimate the importance of penetration, especially on low/med CP characters where you cannot yet put enough cp into penetration. Later you can switch this to Twice Fang (but only in PVE, PVP I think spriggans still better), and I can tell you from experience that with 400+cp and hundings+spriggans you are good for nSO trials.
  
• Selene: while monster sets are definitely not overland, with 460 cp and hundings and spriggans equipped you should have no problem getting a selene helm, that dungeon is not that hard.

Equipment upgrades: gold your weapon, armors are fine in purple, and don't bother upgrading jewellery, it's too expensive (and you can grind purple jewellery in dolmens easily)

Rotation: equipment just one part of the things, you should nail down and practice your rotation too, as your rotation has much more impact on your dps than your equipment. Use training dummies, either from your guild if they have in the guild house, but you can actually buy one for yourself, usually there are training dummies at several guild traders for around 40-50k gold.

Yeah. You said it damn spot on regarding rotation. Im on console. Its so hard to get fonsistant numbers with the crappy frame rate. Weaving light attacks can be challenge. Thank you all for the invaluable advice.

Im going spriggans a briar for sure. Seems like a solid combo

Vapirko

I think briarheart and hundings would be BiS?

Sevn

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Striken7 wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

I appreciate your feedback and insight, but damn, your points in using the numbers and calculations just make my head hurt already. This isn't MIT, man. Press attack, 1, 2, 3, adds done, boss dead. Yayy.. it's a video game. Ha ha. Plus, I look good in doing so without the ugly Briarheart. Nahh, don't use the outfit system; don't need it. Ok.. we're just going to have to agree to disagree. No just cause for debating here. To each their own; your toon, not mine..

OP, dude, if you want to use the Briarheart, go for it. It will work just fine for PvE..

The thread isn't about what you think works for your toon either though. From the OP's perspective, your suggestions just aren't good for what was asked (such as Heavy/PvP/Trial sets). It's not "debating" to point out to the OP when what they are being told is bad advice.

For a starter PvE DPS stamblade looking for overland sets, Briarheart and Spriggan's are the go-to's for a reason. Spriggan's in particular is going to boost dps a lot just from the penetration. Suggesting you don't use it just because of how it looks when the Outfit system exists is enough to question your other points.

Speaking of which, with high enough crit and multiple DoT's, it's pretty easy to keep the Briarheart uptime around 50% or better. That puts it on par with Hunding's in terms of damage plus the extra healing. Your testing of practically every overland set for several years must have missed that.

Touche.. ha ha ha. Hey, whatever works for you. There's nothing wrong with standing up for your Briarheart and Spriggans. Some does fine in AAA and the minor league..

Damn is it really that hard to admit and accept you gave op bad advice for what his needs are? Based on looks at that?
OT:
I went with spriggans and hunding for the longest on my stamblade. If you are not a crafter or can't get anyone to craft I would go with briarheart as well.

Lab3360

I forgot to thank you guys for all of you're reply. You were all very positive and helpful. I learned a lot just from what was offered here whereas it launched me into research.

Thank you sooooo much!!

karthrag_inak

No love for NMA? this one is surprised, is better than hundings in this one's opinion.

oXI_Viper_IXo

karthrag_inak wrote: »

No love for NMA? this one is surprised, is better than hundings in this one's opinion.

This thread is like 2 years old lol.

Lab3360

At the time of the post there was no New Moon

Aznarb

If you just plan to have fun and do enough dmg the time to get better, I'll go with :

Unfathomable Darkness
Red Mountain
Selene monster set

3 proc set with fun animation and totally worth for doing content.

Later if you'r interested in you'll probably gonna farm some trial to get BIS gear so, just use something fun and useful
They're also easy to farm and cheap if you wanna buy them.


EDIT : didn't see it was a stupid necro-thread u_u

karthrag_inak

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

karthrag_inak wrote: »

No love for NMA? this one is surprised, is better than hundings in this one's opinion.

This thread is like 2 years old lol.

Oops. Heh. well...this one would like to add that NMA is a nice set for stam or mag. At least this one did not engage in forum necromancy. \o/