A solution to the tabard issue!

Blackleopardex

No, this is not another post about an option to hide the tabard, so hold your comments until you read my idea. So, as many of you know we can't represent the guild we wanna on our nameplates, without having the guild tabard destroy our awesome outfits. We use gold and much time to make our outfits just to have them broken, when we wanna represent a guild. My idea is to make a separate section next to our title, where the player can choose if and what guild the player wanna represent on the nameplate. I made a quick example of what it could look like:



Let me know what you guys think!

Sheezabeast

I would love this compromise! Especially if i could fluidly switch which guild was my active.

Blackleopardex

Sheezabeast wrote: »

I would love this compromise! Especially if i could fluidly switch which guild was my active.

That's the idea yeah

Royaji

So essentially a hide tabbard?

Blackleopardex

Royaji wrote: »

So essentially a hide tabbard?

No thats the point, you won't need to put on the tabard in the first place..

Royaji

Blackleopardex wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

So essentially a hide tabbard?

No thats the point, you won't need to put on the tabard in the first place..

And what happens to tabbards? A simple hide tabbard switch sounds a bit easier to implement.

Blackleopardex

Royaji wrote: »

Blackleopardex wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

So essentially a hide tabbard?

No thats the point, you won't need to put on the tabard in the first place..

And what happens to tabbards? A simple hide tabbard switch sounds a bit easier to implement.

According to zos apparently not. It has to do with the different layers armor/outfit/costume/tabard.. and apparently adding a hide option to the tabard is far more complicated then it seems. Edit: And about the tabard, it will still be a visible option for those that wanna have that, just put it on. To make the tabard slightly more important it could be required to have the tabard of the specific guild you wanna use in your inventory, to be able to show that guild.

Yoku

Royaji wrote: »

Blackleopardex wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

So essentially a hide tabbard?

No thats the point, you won't need to put on the tabard in the first place..

And what happens to tabbards? A simple hide tabbard switch sounds a bit easier to implement.

you just simply put on the tabard to have it visible

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

Mureel

Blackleopardex wrote: »

No, this is not another post about an option to hide the tabard, so hold your comments until you read my idea. So, as many of you know we can't represent the guild we wanna on our nameplates, without having the guild tabard destroy our awesome outfits. We use gold and much time to make our outfits just to have them broken, when we wanna represent a guild. My idea is to make a separate section next to our title, where the player can choose if and what guild the player wanna represent on the nameplate. I made a quick example of what it could look like:



Let me know what you guys think!

You are not the first one to say this.

BUT I AGREE!

Mureel

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

2 days = Necroposting?

Linaleah

seriously, the bare bone of the code are already there, since we can select titles from drop down menu. this would be an absolutely perfect solution. now Id rather not have to carry 5 different tabbards in my bags on every single character, just to be able to chose between guilds, but then again, its not like tabbards don't still have use for specific guild functions.

Ertosi

Blackleopardex wrote: »

According to zos apparently not. It has to do with the different layers armor/outfit/costume/tabard.. and apparently adding a hide option to the tabard is far more complicated then it seems.

I seriously doubt that's true. Costumes already hide the tabard, which means the code to make it not visible is already there. If the code is there, it would be easy enough to add a toggle to it.

Blackleopardex wrote: »

To make the tabard slightly more important it could be required to have the tabard of the specific guild you wanna use in your inventory, to be able to show that guild.

This would certainly be more complicated than a toggle to make a worn tabard visible/invisible. If ZOS is truly avoiding the hide option due to it being far more complicated than it seems, they're not going to go for an even more complicated option.

The simplest route for such things is usually the best option.

Blackleopardex

Ertosi wrote: »

Blackleopardex wrote: »

According to zos apparently not. It has to do with the different layers armor/outfit/costume/tabard.. and apparently adding a hide option to the tabard is far more complicated then it seems.

I seriously doubt that's true. Costumes already hide the tabard, which means the code to make it not visible is already there. If the code is there, it would be easy enough to add a toggle to it.

Well I asked Matt at this years ESO Tavern in Cologne about it, and he explained me why it's more complicated then is sounds. Tho I have to admit I already had a bit to drink so I can't explain it here in detail, sadly..

Blackleopardex wrote: »

To make the tabard slightly more important it could be required to have the tabard of the specific guild you wanna use in your inventory, to be able to show that guild.

Ertosi wrote: »

This would certainly be more complicated than a toggle to make a worn tabard visible/invisible. If ZOS is truly avoiding the hide option due to it being far more complicated than it seems, they're not going to go for an even more complicated option.

The simplest route for such things is usually the best option.

That suggestion has nothing to do with making it easier neither is it something i would like. It's simply a suggestion to not make the guild-tabard irrelevant, if that's a issue.

wolf486

I like this idea. My one character I'm not wearing a costume but also don't really want the tabard showing. I tried dying my armor a similar colour but I lack a similar yellow/gold so I removed the tabard.
Another character with another guild wears a (collections) costume and the tabard doesn't show, but I get the name on my nameplate which I like.

Either way what you suggest makes sense.

idk

I have to laugh at how OP starts off saying this is not another thread about hiding the guild tabard, but ends up explaining it is another thread about hiding the guild tabard since it is a idea to basically totally hide it, basically replace tabards with a different mechanism.

No offense, but that really is good. As for the suggestion or hiding tabards I do not care either way.

BTW, If Zos really wanted to make it so players could hide their tabard they could do it without creating an entire new system. As someone already pointed out costumes hide the tabard. It would probably be easier to just do a hide tabard toggle.

Blackleopardex

idk wrote: »

I have to laugh at how OP starts off saying this is not another thread about hiding the guild tabard, but ends up explaining it is another thread about hiding the guild tabard since it is a idea to basically totally hide it, basically replace tabards with a different mechanism.

No offense, but that really is good. As for the suggestion or hiding tabards I do not care either way.

I have to laugh when i read your answer, since when I stated that; it's simply because there have been several posts about: Option to hide guild-tabard, with the same basic idea. Read it again, word by word, maybe you see that I state, not another "option to hide the guild-tabard" and my idea is a work around not a copy of that idea...

Blackleopardex

idk wrote: »

BTW, If Zos really wanted to make it so players could hide their tabard they could do it without creating an entire new system. As someone already pointed out costumes hide the tabard. It would probably be easier to just do a hide tabard toggle.

If it was that easy it would already have been done. Don't forget that Outfit system is a gold drain and a has paid content(additional outfits) and the tabard issue prevent some players from using the system all together.

Datthaw

Mureel wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

2 days = Necroposting?

Lol he had a premature post and blew his necro card. He just got too excited

idk

Blackleopardex wrote: »

idk wrote: »

BTW, If Zos really wanted to make it so players could hide their tabard they could do it without creating an entire new system. As someone already pointed out costumes hide the tabard. It would probably be easier to just do a hide tabard toggle.

If it was that easy it would already have been done.

You are assuming that Zos has given this significant consideration. Clearly this is not a hotbed issue to begin with considering the light response in this thread. Again, idc about the issue one way or another.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

idk wrote: »

Blackleopardex wrote: »

idk wrote: »

BTW, If Zos really wanted to make it so players could hide their tabard they could do it without creating an entire new system. As someone already pointed out costumes hide the tabard. It would probably be easier to just do a hide tabard toggle.

If it was that easy it would already have been done.

You are assuming that Zos has given this significant consideration. Clearly this is not a hotbed issue to begin with considering the light response in this thread. Again, idc about the issue one way or another.

Yoku

THANKS!!!!!! MAKE OUR OUTFITS GREAT AGAIN!!!! *-*

Yoku

Mureel wrote: »

Blackleopardex wrote: »

No, this is not another post about an option to hide the tabard, so hold your comments until you read my idea. So, as many of you know we can't represent the guild we wanna on our nameplates, without having the guild tabard destroy our awesome outfits. We use gold and much time to make our outfits just to have them broken, when we wanna represent a guild. My idea is to make a separate section next to our title, where the player can choose if and what guild the player wanna represent on the nameplate. I made a quick example of what it could look like:



Let me know what you guys think!

You are not the first one to say this.

BUT I AGREE!

havnt seen any posts yet that got that idea

Yoku

Linaleah wrote: »

seriously, the bare bone of the code are already there, since we can select titles from drop down menu. this would be an absolutely perfect solution. now Id rather not have to carry 5 different tabbards in my bags on every single character, just to be able to chose between guilds, but then again, its not like tabbards don't still have use for specific guild functions.

why 5?? just 1 is enough and the other for in your bank... if you just wanna represent 1 guild, then you only need 1 tabard.

Yoku

Ertosi wrote: »

Blackleopardex wrote: »

According to zos apparently not. It has to do with the different layers armor/outfit/costume/tabard.. and apparently adding a hide option to the tabard is far more complicated then it seems.

I seriously doubt that's true. Costumes already hide the tabard, which means the code to make it not visible is already there. If the code is there, it would be easy enough to add a toggle to it.

Blackleopardex wrote: »

To make the tabard slightly more important it could be required to have the tabard of the specific guild you wanna use in your inventory, to be able to show that guild.

This would certainly be more complicated than a toggle to make a worn tabard visible/invisible. If ZOS is truly avoiding the hide option due to it being far more complicated than it seems, they're not going to go for an even more complicated option.

The simplest route for such things is usually the best option.

it doesnt matter what you doubt, when i was at the eso tavern and we talked to Matt about it he explained us that the costume is just another layer that is not directly hiding anything but covering, it just has priority over everything. it even makes some make-up and headmarkings invisible. Matt said that this whole thing is so much more complicated then we think it is. @ZOS_GinaBruno !! can we get some attention for this idea and maybe someone that can better explain that, then drunken eso tavern visitors?? xDD thanks

rabidmyers

hell yeah, good idea

Sarousse

Would be damn faster for them to add a "hide tabard" option.

milaan_muc

@ZOS_GinaBruno Can you please add such an option? Thanks.

Imperial_Voice

Royaji wrote: »

Blackleopardex wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

So essentially a hide tabbard?

No thats the point, you won't need to put on the tabard in the first place..

And what happens to tabbards? A simple hide tabbard switch sounds a bit easier to implement.

Persumably people still buy them if they look cool

Eshja

milaan_muc wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Can you please add such an option? Thanks.

Now this is a true

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

But this is kinda nice idea.

ghastley

You don't need another option; just make the guild name an option for "Title" and you can choose from one list.

That assumes that no Guild already has the same name as a title, and that it would be prevented in future.

Tabards have other issues, such as some chest pieces becoming all-black beneath one, that have nothing to do with the priority situation.