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Mac client quit unexpectedly EVERY TIME when quitting the game

Deeprave
Deeprave
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While not a showstopper, this is a little annoying to have it pause for 30 seconds then pop-up with the "quit unexpectedly" crash message. Completely repeatable, happens every time without fail, using either the Steam or non-Steam game client (yes I have both installed).
Date/Time:       2018-11-17 18:27:27 +1100
End time:        2018-11-17 18:29:25 +1100
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.14 (Build 18A391)
Architecture:    x86_64h
Report Version:  27
Incident Identifier: 6E790CE4-AF15-4D4D-97DF-D1D987E4C98A

Data Source:     Microstackshots
Shared Cache:    0 EFC78C43-A204-36DF-B88E-02A033EE509D

Command:         ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher
Path:            /Applications/Games/Zenimax Online/Launcher.app/Contents/MacOS/ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher
Identifier:      com.solidstatenetworks.host
Version:         3.6.10 (3.6.10.0)
PID:             673

Event:           wakeups
Action taken:    none
Wakeups:         45001 wakeups over the last 234 seconds (192 wakeups per second average), exceeding limit of 150 wakeups per second over 300 seconds
Wakeups limit:   45000
Limit duration:  300s
Wakeups caused:  45001
Duration:        118.35s
Steps:           55

Hardware model:  iMac15,1
Active cpus:     8

Fan speed:       1195 rpm

Heaviest stack for the target process:
  30  ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 3953) [0x1f71]
  30  ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 5072) [0x23d0]
  30  ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 248344) [0x3da18]
  30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 7689900) [0x9ee26ac]
  30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 7697636) [0x9ee44e4]
  30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 387834) [0x97ebafa]
  30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 456094) [0x97fc59e]
  30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 389905) [0x97ec311]
  30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 240828) [0x97c7cbc]
  30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 242151) [0x97c81e7]
  30  -[NSApplication run] + 751 (AppKit + 79347) [0x914d25f3]
  30  -[NSApplication(NSEvent) nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 107 (AppKit + 102555) [0x914d809b]
  30  -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 958 (AppKit + 103521) [0x914d8461]
  30  _DPSNextEvent + 1190 (AppKit + 108690) [0x914d9892]
  30  _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 71 (HIToolbox + 39645) [0x92ed4add]
  30  ReceiveNextEventCommon + 758 (HIToolbox + 40432) [0x92ed4df0]
  30  RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 325 (HIToolbox + 41199) [0x92ed50ef]
  30  CFRunLoopRunInMode + 82 (CoreFoundation + 341599) [0x938ff65f]
  29  CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 584 (CoreFoundation + 239205) [0x938e6665]
  23  __CFRunLoopRun + 3991 (CoreFoundation + 243961) [0x938e78f9]
  20  __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 343 (CoreFoundation + 356647) [0x93903127]
  11  __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 925 (CoreFoundation + 357956) [0x93903644]
  11  __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 19 (CoreFoundation + 359318) [0x93903b96]
  7   __NSFireTimer + 78 (Foundation + 401136) [0x952e7ef0]
  6   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 219774) [0x36a7e]
  6   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 21196) [0x62cc]
  2   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 88542) [0x169de]
  2   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 486563) [0x77ca3]


Powerstats for:  ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher) [673]
UUID:            B403EFEE-B39E-3360-9E7C-C092FC74D8C3
Path:            /Applications/Games/Zenimax Online/Launcher.app/Contents/MacOS/ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher
Architecture:    i386
Footprint:       167.98 MB -> 180.80 MB (+12.82 MB)
Start time:      2018-11-17 18:27:27 +1100
End time:        2018-11-17 18:29:25 +1100
Num samples:     55 (100%)
CPU Time:        9.439s
Primary state:   24 samples Non-Frontmost App, Non-Suppressed, User mode, Effective Thread QoS Unspecified, Requested Thread QoS Unspecified, Override Thread QoS Unspecified
User Activity:   0 samples Idle, 55 samples Active
Power Source:    0 samples on Battery, 55 samples on AC
  30  ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 3953) [0x1f71]
    30  ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 5072) [0x23d0]
      30  ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 248344) [0x3da18]
        30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 7689900) [0x9ee26ac]
          30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 7697636) [0x9ee44e4]
            30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 387834) [0x97ebafa]
              30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 456094) [0x97fc59e]
                30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 389905) [0x97ec311]
                  30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 240828) [0x97c7cbc]
                    30  ??? (libcef.dylib + 242151) [0x97c81e7]
                      30  -[NSApplication run] + 751 (AppKit + 79347) [0x914d25f3]
                        30  -[NSApplication(NSEvent) nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 107 (AppKit + 102555) [0x914d809b]
                          30  -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 958 (AppKit + 103521) [0x914d8461]
                            30  _DPSNextEvent + 1190 (AppKit + 108690) [0x914d9892]
                              30  _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 71 (HIToolbox + 39645) [0x92ed4add]
                                30  ReceiveNextEventCommon + 758 (HIToolbox + 40432) [0x92ed4df0]
                                  30  RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 325 (HIToolbox + 41199) [0x92ed50ef]
                                    30  CFRunLoopRunInMode + 82 (CoreFoundation + 341599) [0x938ff65f]
                                      29  CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 584 (CoreFoundation + 239205) [0x938e6665]
                                        23  __CFRunLoopRun + 3991 (CoreFoundation + 243961) [0x938e78f9]
                                          20  __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 343 (CoreFoundation + 356647) [0x93903127]
                                            11  __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 925 (CoreFoundation + 357956) [0x93903644]
                                              11  __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 19 (CoreFoundation + 359318) [0x93903b96]
                                                7   __NSFireTimer + 78 (Foundation + 401136) [0x952e7ef0]
                                                  6   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 219774) [0x36a7e]
                                                    6   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 21196) [0x62cc]
                                                      2   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 88542) [0x169de]
                                                        2   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 486563) [0x77ca3]
                                                      2   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 88678) [0x16a66]
                                                        1   PatchManifestDispatcher_ProcessInstance + 54 (libpatcher.dylib + 68984) [0xed94d78]
                                                          1   PatchManifest_Process + 160 (libpatcher.dylib + 48662) [0xed8fe16]
                                                            1   PatchVersion_Process + 628 (libpatcher.dylib + 77943) [0xed97077]
                                                              1   PatchVersion_InternalRaiseComplete + 245 (libpatcher.dylib + 83300) [0xed98564]
                                                                1   PatchManifest_PatchVersion_InternalCompleteCallback + 1065 (libpatcher.dylib + 58474) [0xed9246a]
                                                                  1   DirectedGraph_ConnectNodesByUserPtr + 36 (libpatcher.dylib + 5289) [0xed854a9]
                                                                    1   DirectedGraph_FindNodeByUserPtr + 259 (libpatcher.dylib + 5614) [0xed855ee]
                                                        1   PatchDispatcher_ProcessInstance + 34 (libpatcher.dylib + 34388) [0xed8c654]
                                                          1   String_Compare + 77 (libpatcher.dylib + 208226) [0xedb6d62]
                                                      1   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 88737) [0x16aa1]
                                                      1   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 88656) [0x16a50]
                                                  1   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 219718) [0x36a46]
                                                    1   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 22409) [0x6789]
                                                2   _CFAutoreleasePoolPush + 0 (CoreFoundation + 38660) [0x938b5704]
                                                1   objc_object::sidetable_retain() + 0 (libobjc.A.dylib + 34266) [0xa6bb25da]
                                                1   DYLD-STUB$$_CFAutoreleasePoolPush + 0 (Foundation + 2998032) [0x95561f10]
                                            5   __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 434 (CoreFoundation + 357465) [0x93903459]
                                              4   mk_timer_arm + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib + 4002) [0xa7c18fa2]
                                                4   <Kernel mode>
                                              1   __CFArmNextTimerInMode + 435 (CoreFoundation + 237888) [0x938e6140]
                                            2   __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 452 (CoreFoundation + 357483) [0x9390346b]
                                              1   _pthread_mutex_unlock_init_slow + 51 (libsystem_pthread.dylib + 6368) [0xa7cc88e0]
                                                1   _pthread_mutex_firstfit_unlock_slow + 218 (libsystem_pthread.dylib + 6605) [0xa7cc89cd]
                                              1   pthread_mutex_unlock + 4 (libsystem_pthread.dylib + 6165) [0xa7cc8815]
                                            1   __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 1551 (CoreFoundation + 358582) [0x939038b6]
                                              1   __CFRunLoopFindMode + 139 (CoreFoundation + 233039) [0x938e4e4f]
                                                1   _CFRuntimeSetInstanceTypeIDAndIsa + 31 (CoreFoundation + 22727) [0x938b18c7]
                                                  1   _CFRuntimeSetInstanceTypeID + 64 (CoreFoundation + 22857) [0x938b1949]
                                            1   __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 82 (CoreFoundation + 357113) [0x939032f9]
                                              1   CFRetain + 60 (CoreFoundation + 17966) [0x938b062e]
                                                1   _CFRetain + 100 (CoreFoundation + 1016353) [0x939a4221]
                                          2   __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 253 (CoreFoundation + 356557) [0x939030cd]
                                            2   CFArrayAppendValue + 84 (CoreFoundation + 180494) [0x938d810e]
                                              2   -[__NSArrayM addObject:] + 78 (CoreFoundation + 180581) [0x938d8165]
                                                1   DYLD-STUB$$__bzero + 0 (CoreFoundation + 1690250) [0x93a48a8a]
                                                1   -[__NSArrayM insertObject:atIndex:] + 1113 (CoreFoundation + 181705) [0x938d85c9]
                                          1   __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 237 (CoreFoundation + 356541) [0x939030bd]
                                            1   CFArrayCreateMutable + 123 (CoreFoundation + 82495) [0x938c023f]
                                              1   -[__NSPlaceholderArray initWithCapacity:] + 93 (CoreFoundation + 82639) [0x938c02cf]
                                                1   +[__NSArrayM __new:::] + 34 (CoreFoundation + 82715) [0x938c031b]
                                                  1   __CFAllocateObject2 + 30 (CoreFoundation + 17271) [0x938b0377]
                                                    1   _class_createInstance(objc_class*, unsigned long) + 22 (libobjc.A.dylib + 52742) [0xa6bb6e06]
                                                      1   _class_createInstanceFromZone(objc_class*, unsigned long, void*) + 68 (libobjc.A.dylib + 52816) [0xa6bb6e50]
                                                        1   calloc + 32 (libsystem_malloc.dylib + 12726) [0xa7c921b6]
                                                          1   malloc_zone_calloc + 113 (libsystem_malloc.dylib + 12867) [0xa7c92243]
                                                            1   default_zone_calloc + 57 (libsystem_malloc.dylib + 13024) [0xa7c922e0]
                                                              1   szone_calloc + 45 (libsystem_malloc.dylib + 13107) [0xa7c92333]
                                                                1   szone_malloc_should_clear + 72 (libsystem_malloc.dylib + 8320) [0xa7c91080]
                                                                  1   tiny_malloc_should_clear + 275 (libsystem_malloc.dylib + 8778) [0xa7c9124a]
                                                                    1   tiny_malloc_from_free_list + 310 (libsystem_malloc.dylib + 10740) [0xa7c919f4]
                                        3   __CFRunLoopRun + 2695 (CoreFoundation + 242665) [0x938e73e9]
                                          3   __CFRunLoopDoSources0 + 210 (CoreFoundation + 245044) [0x938e7d34]
                                            3   __CFRunLoopDoSource0 + 116 (CoreFoundation + 347723) [0x93900e4b]
                                              3   __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_SOURCE0_PERFORM_FUNCTION__ + 15 (CoreFoundation + 347821) [0x93900ead]
                                                3   ??? (libcef.dylib + 241127) [0x97c7de7]
                                                  3   ??? (libcef.dylib + 392848) [0x97ece90]
                                                    3   ??? (libcef.dylib + 391325) [0x97ec89d]
                                                      3   ??? (libcef.dylib + 534689) [0x980f8a1]
                                                        3   ??? (libcef.dylib + 534438) [0x980f7a6]
                                                          3   ??? (libcef.dylib + 534378) [0x980f76a]
                                                            2   ??? (libcef.dylib + 7285793) [0x9e7fc21]
                                                              2   ??? (libcef.dylib + 15454150) [0xa649fc6]
                                                                2   ??? (libcef.dylib + 15454444) [0xa64a0ec]
                                                                  2   ??? (libcef.dylib + 20098922) [0xaab7f6a]
                                                                    2   ??? (libcef.dylib + 17190281) [0xa7f1d89]
                                                                      2   ??? (libcef.dylib + 17190617) [0xa7f1ed9]
                                                                        2   ??? (libcef.dylib + 17199870) [0xa7f42fe]
                                                                          2   ??? (libcef.dylib + 17201020) [0xa7f477c]
                                                                            2   ??? (libcef.dylib + 9811607) [0xa0e8697]
                                                                              2   ??? (libcef.dylib + 10108292) [0xa130d84]
                                                                                2   ??? (libcef.dylib + 10109296) [0xa131170]
                                                                                  2   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928586826) [0x49a12c4a]
                                                                                    2   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928646169) [0x49a21419]
                                                                                      1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 1174874073) [0x584f37d9]
                                                                                        1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928567649) [0x49a0e161]
                                                                                          1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928707745) [0x49a304a1]
                                                                                            1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 1173976788) [0x584186d4]
                                                                                              1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928567649) [0x49a0e161]
                                                                                                1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 1174806329) [0x584e2f39]
                                                                                                  1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928567649) [0x49a0e161]
                                                                                                    1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928733044) [0x49a36774]
                                                                                                      1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928567649) [0x49a0e161]
                                                                                                        1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 1174496111) [0x5849736f]
                                                                                                          1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928567649) [0x49a0e161]
                                                                                                            1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 1174247736) [0x5845a938]
                                                                                                              1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928567649) [0x49a0e161]
                                                                                                                1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 1174602378) [0x584b128a]
                                                                                                                  1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928551734) [0x49a0a336]
                                                                                                                    1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 11473508) [0xa27e264]
                                                                                                                      1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 11472784) [0xa27df90]
                                                                                                                        1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 11010760) [0xa20d2c8]
                                                                                                                          1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 11011362) [0xa20d522]
                                                                                                                            1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 11022222) [0xa20ff8e]
                                                                                                                              1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 17356000) [0xa81a4e0]
                                                                                                                                1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 17599911) [0xa855da7]
                                                                                                                                  1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 17510123) [0xa83feeb]
                                                                                                                                    1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 12781631) [0xa3bd83f]
                                                                                                                                      1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 12781301) [0xa3bd6f5]
                                                                                                                                        1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 12781005) [0xa3bd5cd]
                                                                                                                                          1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 12778762) [0xa3bcd0a]
                                                                                                                                            1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 12899144) [0xa3da348]
                                                                                                                                              1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 12899144) [0xa3da348]
                                                                                                                                                1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 12899144) [0xa3da348]
                                                                                                                                                  1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 12899144) [0xa3da348]
                                                                                                                                                    1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 12899129) [0xa3da339]
                                                                                                                                                      1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 18314021) [0xa904325]
                                                                                                                                                        1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 18047970) [0xa8c33e2]
                                                                                      1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 1174873404) [0x584f353c]
                                                                                        1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928567649) [0x49a0e161]
                                                                                          1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928707745) [0x49a304a1]
                                                                                            1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 1173976788) [0x584186d4]
                                                                                              1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928567649) [0x49a0e161]
                                                                                                1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 1174374744) [0x58479958]
                                                                                                  1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 1174606138) [0x584b213a]
                                                                                                    1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 1174709254) [0x584cb406]
                                                                                                      1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 1174087162) [0x584335fa]
                                                                                                        1   ??? (ATIRadeonX4000SCLib.dylib + 928551734) [0x49a0a336]
                                                                                                          1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 10707129) [0xa1c30b9]
                                                                                                            1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 10686902) [0xa1be1b6]
                                                            1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 7905393) [0x9f17071]
                                                              1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 7904726) [0x9f16dd6]
                                                                1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 8025786) [0x9f346ba]
                                                                  1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 7519493) [0x9eb8d05]
                                                                    1   ??? (libcef.dylib + 131450) [0x97ad17a]
                                                                      1   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 242414) [0x3c2ee]
                                                                        1   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 243797) [0x3c855]
                                                                          1   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 221045) [0x36f75]
                                                                            1   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 221297) [0x37071]
                                                                              1   CFDataCreate + 26 (CoreFoundation + 77700) [0x938bef84]
                                                                                1   __CFDataInit + 700 (CoreFoundation + 1024060) [0x939a603c]
                                                                                  1   CFDataReplaceBytes + 377 (CoreFoundation + 78485) [0x938bf295]
                                                                                    1   _platform_memmove$VARIANT$sse42 + 215 (libsystem_platform.dylib + 15655) [0xa7cc2d27]
                                        3   __CFRunLoopRun + 3196 (CoreFoundation + 243166) [0x938e75de]
                                          2   __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 289 (CoreFoundation + 245533) [0x938e7f1d]
                                            2   mach_msg_trap + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib + 3618) [0xa7c18e22]
                                              2   <Kernel mode>
                                          1   voucher_mach_msg_revert + 0 (libdispatch.dylib + 144871) [0xa7aab5e7]
                                      1   CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 732 (CoreFoundation + 239353) [0x938e66f9]
                                        1   __CFRunLoopDoObservers + 459 (CoreFoundation + 610232) [0x93940fb8]
                                          1   __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_AN_OBSERVER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 22 (CoreFoundation + 610447) [0x9394108f]
                                            1   CA::Transaction::observer_callback(__CFRunLoopObserver*, unsigned long, void*) + 77 (QuartzCore + 9217) [0x9aaef401]
                                              1   CA::Transaction::commit() + 527 (QuartzCore + 9869) [0x9aaef68d]
                                                1   CA::Context::commit_transaction(CA::Transaction*) + 331 (QuartzCore + 11131) [0x9aaefb7b]
                                                  1   CA::Layer::display_if_needed(CA::Transaction*) + 642 (QuartzCore + 80000) [0x9ab00880]
                                                    1   -[_NSViewBackingLayer display] + 864 (AppKit + 1165145) [0x915db759]
                                                      1   -[_NSBackingLayer display] + 26 (AppKit + 1273989) [0x915f6085]
                                                        1   _NSBackingLayerDisplay + 528 (AppKit + 1274522) [0x915f629a]
                                                          1   -[CALayer display] + 158 (QuartzCore + 80792) [0x9ab00b98]
                                                            1   -[CALayer _display] + 2630 (QuartzCore + 83430) [0x9ab015e6]
                                                              1   x_blame_allocations + 96 (QuartzCore + 85538) [0x9ab01e22]
                                                                1   invocation function for block in CA::Layer::display_() + 59 (QuartzCore + 439593) [0x9ab58529]
                                                                  1   CABackingStoreUpdate_ + 515 (QuartzCore + 86080) [0x9ab02040]
                                                                    1   backing_callback(CGContext*, void*) (.8674) + 91 (QuartzCore + 1736622) [0x9ac94fae]
                                                                      1   -[_NSViewBackingLayer drawInContext:] + 53 (AppKit + 1275474) [0x915f6652]
                                                                        1   -[NSView(NSLayerKitGlue) drawLayer:inContext:] + 42 (AppKit + 1275524) [0x915f6684]
                                                                          1   -[NSView(NSLayerKitGlue) _drawViewBackingLayer:inContext:drawingHandler:] + 1523 (AppKit + 1277052) [0x915f6c7c]
                                                                            1   __46-[NSView(NSLayerKitGlue) drawLayer:inContext:]_block_invoke + 234 (AppKit + 1277736) [0x915f6f28]
                                                                              1   -[NSView(NSInternal) _recursive:displayRectIgnoringOpacity:inContext:shouldChangeFontReferenceColor:stopAtLayerBackedViews:] + 1501 (AppKit + 1279246) [0x915f750e]
                                                                                1   _NSViewDrawRect + 86 (AppKit + 1284660) [0x915f8a34]
                                                                                  1   ??? (ZeniMax Online Studios Launcher + 222146) [0x373c2]
                                                                                    1   CGContextDrawImage + 75 (CoreGraphics + 218567) [0x93d265c7]
                                                                                      1   CGContextDrawImageWithOptions + 520 (CoreGraphics + 219112) [0x93d267e8]
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                                1   Security::CssmClient::DbImpl::open() + 335 (Security + 97699) [0x9b1e4da3]
                                  1   non-virtual thunk to Security::KeychainCore::KeychainImpl::makeCredentials() + 17 (Security + 1833321) [0x9b38c969]
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                                                            1   Security::RefPointer<Security::CssmClient::ObjectImpl>::~RefPointer() + 19 (Security + 1069693) [0x9b2d227d]
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  • idk
    idk
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    @ZOS_BillE You seem to be the tech support person. Also might be part of the Mac issues with the recent major change.
  • Rowjoh
    Rowjoh
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    same here - was fixed, now its back again :(
  • Ostacia
    Ostacia
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    Same here but this time, for fun, I guess, it crashed when I wasn't quitting. I was right in the middle of zoning to a new area. I'm doing the "send report to Apple" each time now.
    PC/ NA
    Imagination is the real and eternal world of which this vegetable universe is but a faint shadow. -- William Blake
  • ZOS_Bill
    ZOS_Bill
    admin
    @Deeprave and anyone else experiencing this crash on exiting the game.

    Please go ahead and open a support ticket if you've not done so. Our support team can investigate into this further after gaining some more details on your system specifications.
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  • Puodas
    Puodas
    ✭✭
    @ZOS_BillE I think everyone on mac is experiencing this crash on exit after last update...I’ve sent report to Apple so you can see it there all the system details and potential stacktrace.
  • agegarton
    agegarton
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    ZOS_BillE wrote: »
    @Deeprave and anyone else experiencing this crash on exiting the game.

    Please go ahead and open a support ticket if you've not done so. Our support team can investigate into this further after gaining some more details on your system specifications.


    This seems to be happening on every Mac - I own three, and the client crashes on exit or after the screensaver kicks in every single time, both native and Steam versions.

    Another poor effort from your tech guys.

    Also, what's next with the FPS issue? You have a very long thread developing there, and some understandable frustrated and angry customers who just want some answers. If I treated my customers like you guys do - if I simply ignored them - I'd have gone out of business before I even started.
  • Sanemancured
    I'm getting this too, as well as flickering in Fullscreen with V Sync set to off. It seems to be common.

    I've just added Boot Camp to see if the game runs any better under Windows 10. It shouldn't be necessary.


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  • ethernut60
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    ZOS_BillE wrote: »
    @Deeprave and anyone else experiencing this crash on exiting the game.

    Please go ahead and open a support ticket if you've not done so. Our support team can investigate into this further after gaining some more details on your system specifications.

    Why bother? ZOS has the absolutely worst online support in the world. If your issue isn't on their list, then it is a very convoluted process figuring out how to actually submit a question. If you figure that out, you get an auto-response then either ignored completely, ticket closed with no other response, or worse yet someone does reply with some canned response not even related to your question. From here you may go into a back and forth and if it doesn't fit any of their scripted answers the ticket gets closed. Never do they offer to escalate your issue or attempt to get an answer from someone that actually knows anything about the game or technical issues.
  • Deeprave
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    BTW, still happening after yesterday's patch.

    I live in hope it will be fixed one day.

    When I played LOTRO for some years the Mac client *always* crashed when switching to a different output audio device. It never got fixed, in spite reporting it 3 times.

    It seems most game companies these days still treat Mac users as second-class citizens. There's absolutely no way I'd ever run a Win* based OS, even on Bootcamp - not done so in over 2 decades - so it severely limits what I can play. It'd be nice if someone other than Blizzard had reasonable support for Macs.

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    As a side-note, I'm not sure what all the fuss is on handling both OpenGL and Metal anyway. Surely there is enough abstraction in the video handler to fall-back to OpenGL when the latter isn't available, and stubbing out features not available is a relatively simple thing. It should not be a case of either/or.

    While I'm not affected as I can run Mojave some folks using older Macs who can't upgrade their OS due to Apple's stupid policy on this should not be paying the price and forced to upgrade hardware for the sake of being able to play a game they've been able to for years...
  • smacx250
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    Deeprave wrote: »
    BTW, still happening after yesterday's patch.

    I live in hope it will be fixed one day.

    When I played LOTRO for some years the Mac client *always* crashed when switching to a different output audio device. It never got fixed, in spite reporting it 3 times.

    It seems most game companies these days still treat Mac users as second-class citizens. There's absolutely no way I'd ever run a Win* based OS, even on Bootcamp - not done so in over 2 decades - so it severely limits what I can play. It'd be nice if someone other than Blizzard had reasonable support for Macs.

    --

    As a side-note, I'm not sure what all the fuss is on handling both OpenGL and Metal anyway. Surely there is enough abstraction in the video handler to fall-back to OpenGL when the latter isn't available, and stubbing out features not available is a relatively simple thing. It should not be a case of either/or.

    While I'm not affected as I can run Mojave some folks using older Macs who can't upgrade their OS due to Apple's stupid policy on this should not be paying the price and forced to upgrade hardware for the sake of being able to play a game they've been able to for years...
    The Mac market isn't worth it for ZOS to maintain old/new during these kinds of transitions. Same thing with 32/64 bit client. On the Mac it just went 64 bit all at once (with many associated issues) while Windows users had the option of either 32 or 64 for quite some time.

    As for the either Metal or OpenGL part of your comment - that's basically twice the work (every either/or option causes a doubling of the number of combinations of things that need to be tested). Once again, ZOS deemed that it's not worth it for the Mac market.
  • Deeprave
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    No way, not twice the work. Yes, it requires testing (always does) but the OpenGL code already exists in the previously used code base, only the Metal driver is new.

    I have over 30 years of experience in software development (although not games), so have more than a clue on how this works. Proper abstraction and api development is the norm, and switching systems that alienate a reasonable share of the existing user base is a poor decision.

    As for "not being worth it", that argument is past history and has been for years, Macs are slowly becoming the norm though for reasons I've mentioned probably not in games. I seldom see a PC in my line of work except when working with a larger corporate, which is hardly a games market, but other developers myself who enjoy video games generally want to do so on a Mac platform.
    Edited by Deeprave on November 20, 2018 7:26AM
  • JHanshaw
    JHanshaw
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    I'm have the same crash issues. Three, minor irritants, actually: 1) the maximize and minimize buttons on the game window are missing, preventing me from going full screen; 2) I have to click three to four times in the password window before it allows me to type, even though the cursor is flashing inside it; 3) every time I close the program window it "unexpectedly quits." I couldn't even supply a game consultant file with my support ticket due to the launcher hanging. Good times
  • Sanemancured
    I hate to say it but my solution to all these and other problems is to allocate 200GB to a Boot Camp partition, install Windows 10 and download ESO. The graphics defaulted to Ultra High straight off. No issues.

    This shouldn't be the case but these Mac woes seem to persist and at patches Zen seem to be causing more problems than they solve.
  • Druachan
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    Yep I get the unexpected crash too when quitting as well. It’s a shame that the Mac client is just getting ignored now. I’m thinking that boot camp might be the answer. I don’t really want to do it but if it’s the only way to reliably play the game.
    Say please, before you AAAAAaaaarrrgghhh at me.
  • Veladros
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    Hi

    I get the usual when i quit the game. But now this even happens when i reload ui at times or when i change my graphic settings. so basically every 1 - 2 hours my game crahses or just closes. Which gets annoying. please fix this....
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