The 'Duchess' personality and the "jogging" dilemma

Maulclaw

Hey there.

The Duchess Personality is one of the game's most popular personalities apart from the Assassin one. However, there are a few problems with Duchess here, and it's about one of the animations and how it fails to register for PC users. If you head on to the Crown Store and click on this personality, the game will allow you to preview the animation changes, including the movement ones: walking and running, jogging. Jogging is the kind of speed that's faster than walking, but slower than running (not to be confused with sprinting). Only console users can achieve this thanks to a controller, but PC users cannot. This means that most will confuse jogging with running when it comes to the Crown Store's previews.


Here is the intended jogging:



Here's the running in-game:



Direct comparison between the two:




What's the difference? Instead of flailing her arms 'gracefully', the character (be it female or male of any race) will show off the default running animation instead. There are other differences, but the arms and the way the chest is thrusting forward are the most noticeable differences.

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Additional Info: This has been an ongoing issue for a few years by the looks of it. Reference: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/323318/duchess-jog-animation

Lyserus

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom please take a look at this

Acrolas

There are four functional movements. Walk, Run, Jog, and Sprint. You can achieve the Walk personality animation by using the Toggle Walk/Run button. There's currently no way to reach the Jog speed on a keyboard, only gamepad.

I don't know if a Toggle Run/Jog button would work. Maybe a Gameplay setting where the Personality Jog is turned on/off? Then you'd get the Jog every time you Run but not when you Sprint.

Maulclaw

Acrolas wrote: »

There are four functional movements. Walk, Run, Jog, and Sprint. You can achieve the Walk personality animation by using the Toggle Walk/Run button. There's currently no way to reach the Jog speed on a keyboard, only gamepad.

I don't know if a Toggle Run/Jog button would work. Maybe a Gameplay setting where the Personality Jog is turned on/off? Then you'd get the Jog every time you Run but not when you Sprint.

I compared it with the Thief Personality. You're right. There's a difference between jogging and running apparently. Quite odd, and I'm surprised such an option isn't even available in-game for PC users.

Conduit0

Maulclaw wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

There are four functional movements. Walk, Run, Jog, and Sprint. You can achieve the Walk personality animation by using the Toggle Walk/Run button. There's currently no way to reach the Jog speed on a keyboard, only gamepad.

I don't know if a Toggle Run/Jog button would work. Maybe a Gameplay setting where the Personality Jog is turned on/off? Then you'd get the Jog every time you Run but not when you Sprint.

I compared it with the Thief Personality. You're right. There's a difference between jogging and running apparently. Quite odd, and I'm surprised such an option isn't even available in-game for PC users.

It isn't available because it doesn't make sense, the jog animation exists solely to bridge the speed gap between walking and running since gamepads have proportional speed control. Without an intermediate jog animation you'd either end up with an awkward fast walk or equally awkward slow run when moving at a speed between walking and running. There is just no reason to even offer the option to a keyboard user, the walk/run toggle is already pointless enough.

Tasear

Passing issue along

MajBludd

They'll fix it with a crown store patch for 3k crowns

Stovahkiin

Controlling my run speed more fluidly is pretty much the only reason I ever use a controller despite playing on PC. Too bad the built in console interface is so horrendous

SONEshock

Giving this a polite bump, not trying to necro this thread at all.

Would someone on staff kindly let us know if the team in charge of Crown Store stuff design has seen this and is planning on making it appear as it is still advertised in the store preview?

OnThaLoose

Its definitely possible to do this on PC. I do it. Granted I do use a Xbox game pad.

rpa

I've played a game where one could press key to cycle thru walking, running and sloooowly oooozing. Always fun to instruct new players to press the key to get back to running when they complained being stuck in slow mode for a week.

Ectheliontnacil

How was this not yet fixed???
Now that op has pointed it out, this is a major issue affecting most personalities!

max_only

This is also true for the Commander personality and I’ve filed and followed up on more than one ticket.

Kiralyn2000

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

How was this not yet fixed???

Because it can't be "fixed"?

A controller's analog stick can give a range of movement speeds.
A keyboard key can give "stop" and "go".

This has been a basic issue with every game in existence that has a speed-of-motion range. Like flight sims (using WASD for changing direction), driving games (steering DIRT 3 with a keyboard is really awkward), etc.

Some games work better with analog-stick controllers. Other games work better with mouse & keyboard. It is what it is, there's nothing to "fix".

max_only

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

How was this not yet fixed???

Because it can't be "fixed"?

A controller's analog stick can give a range of movement speeds.
A keyboard key can give "stop" and "go".

This has been a basic issue with every game in existence that has a speed-of-motion range. Like flight sims (using WASD for changing direction), driving games (steering DIRT 3 with a keyboard is really awkward), etc.

Some games work better with analog-stick controllers. Other games work better with mouse & keyboard. It is what it is, there's nothing to "fix".

Then the “fix” is to change the item description to read “some options only available when playing with a controller”. The thing isn’t acting as the purchase preview. It needs to be fixed.

AlienMagi

Does anyone know if this will ever be fixed?

Saucy_Jack

Walk + Wild hunt ring = jog

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Walk + Wild hunt ring = jog

So they made the "fix" dependent on buying the new chapter, leveling the Antiquities skill line and go hunting for five leads to excavate a Mythic item. Hmm. Not sure if this is clever, evil or a mere coincidence...

Kiyakotari

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Walk + Wild hunt ring = jog

Honestly, all that does is show more clearly than ever that making this something that can be toggled (like the run/walk keybind that is already available in controls for keyboard users) is possible. The speed is available. What is not available is an easy way to access the speed via some control systems.

Considering that this speed option (jog) conveys no progression advantage in game, and is something that is likely important purely to people doing some level of RP with their toons, it's silly that it hasn't been added to the possible keybind options.

ZOS_ConnorG

Greetings all,

After review we have closed this thread as it is quite old and the information within may no longer be accurate. If you wish you can create a new thread to continue this discussion, this way all of the information will be as up to date as possible. Thank you for your understanding.