Combat Approach in U21 just means nerfing races

frostz417

Guarantee this means races like dumner, argonian, and redguards are getting nerfed. You heard it here first.
Enjoy spending $ on race change tokens

nsmurfer

Anyone with half a brain knows that Argonians, Redguards and arguably dunmer(for magDKs) will be nerfed. Those race class combination blew every other out of the water.

idk

Zos knows what they are doing. They have become pretty good and creating upheaval in their game with heavy handed changes multiple times a year.

phermitgb

my two mains are imperials, everyone else is built for RP purposes or crafting alts - I'll be fine. And hey, maybe the race changes will tune up imps or bretons and maybe I'll race change for a trade-up - I'd be fine with that.

frostz417

idk wrote: »

Zos knows what they are doing. They have become pretty good and creating upheaval in their game with heavy handed changes multiple times a year.

No they don’t. Murkmire showed that they have no idea how their game works and never stepped a foot into PvP. Guaranteed races are going to be nerfed

brandonv516

All my characters are Argonians. I will not be paying for race changes if the nerfs are over the top. It will just be time.

Koolio

Nerf Races sell Tokens

Buff races sell more token

Nerf races sell even more tokens

The business model of DCUO for years.

I find this to be a money grab.

Defilted

Hopefully they buff other races to be on par with the argonians/darkelf/redguard.

Nords really need some love.

Please leave or alone


#nightmarebear

OneKhajiitCrimeWave

The fact that you started this thread means you know full well specific races stand well above others for many aspects of the game.

When pretty much every content creator pushing the meta forward (with a few notable exceptions) are telling you to make Argonian tanks then something is going to be done.

In the most recent ones where (and using only as an example because he did it repeatedly) Alcast released tank builds for every class, almost all (if not all) were Argonian. Nothing sets off "balance" alarm bells like using 1 race for everything and having some of the more famous content creators telling people that one race is better than all others because of 1 specific passive. (Again, not just one creator but multiples)

Anyone with enough sense knew that racial passives were needing a look over and it was likely certain racial passives would be nerfed while others buffed to try and balance races.

Last time they did it because mag toons were pretty much Altmer or go home, while stam was Redguard and very little else. They hit adrenaline rush a little but buffed other races (Bosmer got the boost last time and they had to revert Khajiit if i remember right)

If you're one of those people who race changed nearly all toons to join the "Lizard World Order" then there may be bad news in your future.

frostz417

OneKhajiitCrimeWave wrote: »

The fact that you started this thread means you know full well specific races stand well above others for many aspects of the game.

When pretty much every content creator pushing the meta forward (with a few notable exceptions) are telling you to make Argonian tanks then something is going to be done.

In the most recent ones where (and using only as an example because he did it repeatedly) Alcast released tank builds for every class, almost all (if not all) were Argonian. Nothing sets off "balance" alarm bells like using 1 race for everything and having some of the more famous content creators telling people that one race is better than all others because of 1 specific passive. (Again, not just one creator but multiples)

Anyone with enough sense knew that racial passives were needing a look over and it was likely certain racial passives would be nerfed while others buffed to try and balance races.

Last time they did it because mag toons were pretty much Altmer or go home, while stam was Redguard and very little else. They hit adrenaline rush a little but buffed other races (Bosmer got the boost last time and they had to revert Khajiit if i remember right)

If you're one of those people who race changed nearly all toons to join the "Lizard World Order" then there may be bad news in your future.

I agree with you. It’s kinda annoying how everything is argonian. Personally I don’t care if argonians and redguards get nerfed, won’t be an issue for me, I’m just stating that there’s guaranteed nerfs for argonians,redguards, and dumners

Acrolas

Aren't the holidays already stressful enough without worry about something that we can't even analyze until January at the earliest?

Creationofgod

why are these threads popping up ... its in 2019 stop it with this seeing in the future nonsense

you dont know what is going on. so stop hating the devs for something that did no happen yet

TequilaFire

frostz417 wrote: »

Guarantee this means races like dumner, argonian, and redguards are getting nerfed. You heard it here first.
Enjoy spending $ on race change tokens

You forgot he most OP of all - Altmer.
Silly thread.

Tommy_The_Gun

I hate to admit that but OP might be actually right...

GlorphNoldorin

History is not on their side. The devs are only now clarifying their vision for combat in eso....like what the hell?

They have done all these over handed "modifications" patch after patch and the truth has come out we suspected all along. They dont have any vision.

It's clear until Giliam joined them that they do not play their game at end game and they have no idea what enjoyable game play is(in end game}.

Evidenced by their inability to clear their own content. I am also not talking about combat balance here.

I am talking about the masses of bugs and lag that are in pvp and end game trials. Would they be worried about combat balance if skills do not fire or textures and aoes do not show if they actually played the game?

Moloch1514

Koolio wrote: »

Nerf Races sell Tokens

Buff races sell more token

Nerf races sell even more tokens

The business model of DCUO for years.

I find this to be a money grab.

Isn't our lead Combat Dev from that game?

MrGarlic

frostz417 wrote: »

Guarantee this means races like dumner, argonian, and redguards are getting nerfed. You heard it here first.
Enjoy spending $ on race change tokens

Do you have any evidence for this or are you just speculating?

todokete

Possibly since they said they want to make races so that they don't impact builds as much

Tommy_The_Gun

todokete wrote: »

Possibly since they said they want to make races so that they don't impact builds as much

Yep, but at the same time they said:
"The unique feeling and flavor each race provides should be retained and enhanced where possible, and remain faithful to established lore."
So what they contradict themselves ?!

Lumenn

The argonian and redguard wouldn't impact builds so much if they hadn't nerfed sustain.(why no mention of altmer with their max mag and regen?) These races were a flavor, not a crutch. I loved my argonian stam sorc(even though it wasn't "uber" and then they updated passives. Come back after a 2 year break(rl issues) and morrowind happened and argonians everywhere. Why do you think dumner? They never seemed op to me. Fire dmg isn't much higher than altmer, without the max magicka(close though) and no regen. I just created a mdk. Since I don't care about a few percent dmg much it was a close call between easier sustain or the way dark elves look. I chose looks.

ZOS_RikardD

Greetings,

We are closing this thread because it does not create an opportunity for constructive conversation.