This bug is ruining PVP, and I consider it game-breaking

Sheezabeast

For people who do not PVP, let me explain a bug that is what I consider game-breaking. There is a bug that causes you to stay stuck in combat.

While stuck in combat, you cannot:
1) mount your mount to ride to a new location
2) use transitus shrines to move to a new location
3) use Keep Recall stones
4) check your mail

Reloading your UI does not get rid of your combat status.

You have to die, or suicide, to end it.

In a fast paced environment like PVP you have to be able to move around your map. Keep Recall Stones are virtually useless when stuck in combat. You stand around and wait and wait and wait and wait, hide, swap weapons, still stuck in combat.

In PVE, if this much disruption was interfering with content, it would get patched eventually. This bug has not been addressed in Murkmire, or the follow-up patches. This, on top of our other issues in PVP like lag, make it miserable.

How far does PVP need to fall before ZOS takes some notice?

Dark_in_a_box

I get this constantly but I find it stops if I sit in stealth somewhere out of the way for a few minutes.

yodased

You don't have to die, you have to wait for all DOTs and HOTs to clear

Sylvermynx

Still, that's.... just crap coding isn't it? Not that I do pvp, but crap coding I get....

yodased

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Still, that's.... just crap coding isn't it? Not that I do pvp, but crap coding I get....

There are a lot of inconsistencies in the systems in this game, you kind of just have to accept them or not play, getting upset about them is a bit worthless at this point.

mb10

DarkRealityzz wrote: »

I get this constantly but I find it stops if I sit in stealth somewhere out of the way for a few minutes.

you say that as if its acceptable lol

how low the standards of this player base has sunk...

"sit in a corner in stealth for a few mins and youre all good"

mb10

yodased wrote: »

You don't have to die, you have to wait for all DOTs and HOTs to clear

its a lot longer than that

i was in combat legit 5 mins without touching or even seeing anyone after i escaped the battle before

courier

yodased wrote: »

You don't have to die, you have to wait for all DOTs and HOTs to clear

have you pvped since murkmire? I'm guessing no

Sheezabeast

mb10 wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

You don't have to die, you have to wait for all DOTs and HOTs to clear

its a lot longer than that

i was in combat legit 5 mins without touching or even seeing anyone after i escaped the battle before

Yes, this happens a lot

Mrsinister2

You can't even log out of the game it's incredibly annoying especially on really slow characters like magplar or dk

dem0n1k

It's pretty annoying when you are at a huge keep battle & want to slot different siege coz you've used up all your slotted siege & you can't because you are perma-locked in combat. I've jumped off the wall & rode halfway to another keep just to slot siege that was useless by the time I got back to the battle. At least allow us to change Q-slot items while in combat!

weedgenius

I was running along behind my group with a couple other people while stuck in combat and trying to mount. I watched a group member standing feet away from me mount up and ride off but I kept getting "cannot mount in combat" over and over. How was I stuck in combat but he wasn't?

Duukar

You cant stealth while in combat either..

It takes often 3 minutes or longer to clear when it happens, which isnt every time I gank.. but maybe 1 in every 8 or so..

This is incredibly inconvenient when deep in enemy turf trying to shed heat.

Been like this for years.. Nothing new there..

LAME

IZZEFlameLash

Working as intended to make combat feel more interactive and fun.

idk

It is concerning that not a single thread about the worsened combat bug has been pinned to the Dev Tracker since that indicates Zos is looking at it.

As it stands we have no reason to think Zos takes this as an important issue worthy of their time. That is an undeniable fact that only Zos can change.

VaranisArano

yodased wrote: »

You don't have to die, you have to wait for all DOTs and HOTs to clear

My entire group has sat in the inner keep around the transitus, no DOTs, no HOTs, definitely not in combat, for two minutes before we got "out of combat".

Its only supposed to take 6 seconds after the last DOT/HOT to leave combat. Its taking a lot longer than that.

therift

I've run from Bloodmayne all the way to Ash before 'Still in combat' cleared. On a magplar. Must've taken 10 minutes.

ChunkyCat

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

Working as intended to make combat feel more interactive and fun.

i lol’d.

ZirconJunkie

yodased wrote: »

You don't have to die, you have to wait for all DOTs and HOTs to clear

Right now as I speak, I have a burning effect on my character that shows it will last another 49710 days. I can't use a transitus or wayshrine, or swap gear or skills because it's keeping me in combat. Been staring at the screen for over an hour now and watching the counter tick down. So all I have to do is wait 136 years and it'll wear off?

Gilvoth

try killing a mob:
it registers as end of combat, atleast for me it allways works.
might work for you as well.

mayasunrising

yodased wrote: »

You don't have to die, you have to wait for all DOTs and HOTs to clear

That's not true. I was stuck in combat for nearly 15 minutes last night. There is no DoT or HoT I cast that lasts that long. If there is...let me know, I want to make sure I'm spamming it. =P

firedrgn

Ya something is differant since murkmire. I dont not pvp very much but last night it was either run everywhere or go hide and wait.. i just kept spaming ride until it cleared.

Took 10 times longer to play and thats not exaggerating.

mayasunrising

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

try killing a mob:
it registers as end of combat, atleast for me it allways works.
might work for you as well.

Rad! Thanks Dwemer! I'm going to try that next time it happens. But I know it won't happen again because it's getting fixed ASAP! Right @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

Mayrael

yodased wrote: »

You don't have to die, you have to wait for all DOTs and HOTs to clear

Like waiting 4 minutes and still nothing?

idk

VaranisArano wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

You don't have to die, you have to wait for all DOTs and HOTs to clear

My entire group has sat in the inner keep around the transitus, no DOTs, no HOTs, definitely not in combat, for two minutes before we got "out of combat".

Its only supposed to take 6 seconds after the last DOT/HOT to leave combat. Its taking a lot longer than that.

That is nothing. I have died, respawned at a one of the two main bases. The ones that cannot be attacked. I was still in combat for a bit. While it has happened when respawning at keeps not being attacked, the main base it totally clean without a doubt.

Sharee

dem0n1k wrote: »

It's pretty annoying when you are at a huge keep battle & want to slot different siege coz you've used up all your slotted siege & you can't because you are perma-locked in combat. I've jumped off the wall & rode halfway to another keep just to slot siege that was useless by the time I got back to the battle. At least allow us to change Q-slot items while in combat!

On this topic: i don't understand why it is necessary for combat to prevent us from changing items in quickslots (siege, food, etc.).

Komputerheld

Sharee wrote: »

On this topic: i don't understand why it is necessary for combat to prevent us from changing items in quickslots (siege, food, etc.).

True and before murkmire it was possible to change skills even in combat. I usally run Fastride and frequently had to change manually back the original skills, because i rode into combat (some wolf, all seeing guards...) and the addon didn´t change back the skills on its own.
Today, I have sometimes to fight someone with spamming rapid maneuver instead of flame lash.

Reaper_00

yodased wrote: »

You don't have to die, you have to wait for all DOTs and HOTs to clear

Unless the DOTS and HOTs have been buffed recently, that’s not the case. I sat and waited 20 minutes in a quiet corner for it to clear the other day. Eventually got fed up and jumped off a cliff.

Chrysa1is

Are you in a group? When group members are in combat, it will still count as you being in combat

albesca

Shouldn't that discussion be in the Bug reports section? This can't possibly be working as intended (I hope).

mayasunrising

Chrysa1is wrote: »

Are you in a group? When group members are in combat, it will still count as you being in combat

I wasn't. I was just running around solo.