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Puncturing Sweeps?
Raudgrani
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Am I the only one having problems to use Puncturing Sweeps? Or is this just another in the line of endless "making-things-better-and-more-balanced" in this game? Can't seem to use them as before, there's like a second or whatever pause between each refresh of the ability, or it has to be precisely aimed or what? Whatever it is, it sucks. Feels really broken now... Have I missed something in the patch notes?
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Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭known issue.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/442070/puncturing-sweeps-jabs-and-dark-flare-are-all-broken-not-op-broken-video-of-dark-flare-added/p1
zos response
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5590011/#Comment_5590011Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on November 8, 2018 2:30PM2 -
Raudgrani✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
Oh, thank you. Did a search, but couldn't seem to find anyone bringing it up. Sweet that it's considered a bug at least, and not an "improvement" hahaha.... Died to really crappy players last night because of this. No more magplar until, this is fixed.1 -
Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭You just need to weave between puncturing strikes and you will have no problems using it.2 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭The issue is caused when you just spam the keybind rather than pressing it once when you should.
If you weave you won't notice the issue and if you stop spamming your key and press it just at the end of your previous sweep, it'll flow like normal.
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Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭You just need to weave between puncturing strikes and you will have no problems using it.
That's a lie! Weaving gets you stuck charging a heavy attack and the sweeps bug out and 3 seconds goes by and suddenly a ton of stuff pops on your screen. Last night, in lag, standing on a resource, 4 guards dropped in front of me....i hit with 3 attacks. 3, should have been 16!!!1 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »You just need to weave between puncturing strikes and you will have no problems using it.
That's a lie! Weaving gets you stuck charging a heavy attack and the sweeps bug out and 3 seconds goes by and suddenly a ton of stuff pops on your screen. Last night, in lag, standing on a resource, 4 guards dropped in front of me....i hit with 3 attacks. 3, should have been 16!!!
There must be a trigger for that similar to this the one that causes OP's issue, such as people timing their weave wrong.
If I do 10 sweeps (without weaving but spamming my sweep keybind) - I do 10 over 19s
If I do 10 sweeps (weaving la's) - I do 10 over 15s
If I do 10 sweeps (just pressing sweep before the other finishes) - I do 10 over 14s
That's consistent and can be replicated with ease.
Though it's worth noting that pre-patch I could do 10 single casts over 13s.
Since the patch I think I've been stuck in 2/3 HA's so I just wonder what the trigger conditions are - Can you replicate it?Edited by BNOC on November 9, 2018 2:28PMvMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
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Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »You just need to weave between puncturing strikes and you will have no problems using it.
That's a lie! Weaving gets you stuck charging a heavy attack and the sweeps bug out and 3 seconds goes by and suddenly a ton of stuff pops on your screen. Last night, in lag, standing on a resource, 4 guards dropped in front of me....i hit with 3 attacks. 3, should have been 16!!!
There must be a trigger for that similar to this the one that causes OP's issue, such as people timing their weave wrong.
If I do 10 sweeps (without weaving but spamming my sweep keybind) - I do 10 over 19s
If I do 10 sweeps (weaving la's) - I do 10 over 15s
If I do 10 sweeps (just pressing sweep before the other finishes) - I do 10 over 14s
That's consistent and can be replicated with ease.
Since the patch I think I've been stuck in 2/3 HA's so I just wonder what the trigger conditions are - Can you replicate it?
Lol it happens every day. Me and a friend have issues. Outside of pvp it's generally not an issue. In pvp, both bgs and cyro, it's awful. Especially in cyrodiil. We both deslotted sweeps, a VITAL skill to templars now since they moved minor protection. The only thing to reliably break it and cause the damage to occur is blocking. Then you'l see every cast pop up simultaneously.
People arent being finished off bc of it, ive died bc if it. It's frustrating since not a single 1 of my other characters with instant attacks suffer from this.
It's definitely tied to how they can't fix snipe from stealth desyncs. Skill with a cast or channel time perform terribly in pvp.
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BNOC✭✭✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »You just need to weave between puncturing strikes and you will have no problems using it.
That's a lie! Weaving gets you stuck charging a heavy attack and the sweeps bug out and 3 seconds goes by and suddenly a ton of stuff pops on your screen. Last night, in lag, standing on a resource, 4 guards dropped in front of me....i hit with 3 attacks. 3, should have been 16!!!
There must be a trigger for that similar to this the one that causes OP's issue, such as people timing their weave wrong.
If I do 10 sweeps (without weaving but spamming my sweep keybind) - I do 10 over 19s
If I do 10 sweeps (weaving la's) - I do 10 over 15s
If I do 10 sweeps (just pressing sweep before the other finishes) - I do 10 over 14s
That's consistent and can be replicated with ease.
Since the patch I think I've been stuck in 2/3 HA's so I just wonder what the trigger conditions are - Can you replicate it?
Lol it happens every day. Me and a friend have issues. Outside of pvp it's generally not an issue. In pvp, both bgs and cyro, it's awful. Especially in cyrodiil. We both deslotted sweeps, a VITAL skill to templars now since they moved minor protection. The only thing to reliably break it and cause the damage to occur is blocking. Then you'l see every cast pop up simultaneously.
People arent being finished off bc of it, ive died bc if it. It's frustrating since not a single 1 of my other characters with instant attacks suffer from this.
It's definitely tied to how they can't fix snipe from stealth desyncs. Skill with a cast or channel time perform terribly in pvp.
Spaghetti spaghetti!!
Yeah weird, I can replicate the sweep issue as pertains to this thread.
But can't figure out how to replicate the heavy attack one.
Hopefully they get both sorted either way for those who are being affected by them.vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)0 -
Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭You just need to weave between puncturing strikes and you will have no problems using it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vdekKR_wfY
This still happens, even with the break. :< What am I doing wrong!
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BNOC✭✭✭✭✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »You just need to weave between puncturing strikes and you will have no problems using it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vdekKR_wfY
This still happens, even with the break. :< What am I doing wrong!
Spamming your sweep button.vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
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Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »You just need to weave between puncturing strikes and you will have no problems using it.
That's a lie! Weaving gets you stuck charging a heavy attack and the sweeps bug out and 3 seconds goes by and suddenly a ton of stuff pops on your screen. Last night, in lag, standing on a resource, 4 guards dropped in front of me....i hit with 3 attacks. 3, should have been 16!!!
There must be a trigger for that similar to this the one that causes OP's issue, such as people timing their weave wrong.
If I do 10 sweeps (without weaving but spamming my sweep keybind) - I do 10 over 19s
If I do 10 sweeps (weaving la's) - I do 10 over 15s
If I do 10 sweeps (just pressing sweep before the other finishes) - I do 10 over 14s
That's consistent and can be replicated with ease.
Since the patch I think I've been stuck in 2/3 HA's so I just wonder what the trigger conditions are - Can you replicate it?
Lol it happens every day. Me and a friend have issues. Outside of pvp it's generally not an issue. In pvp, both bgs and cyro, it's awful. Especially in cyrodiil. We both deslotted sweeps, a VITAL skill to templars now since they moved minor protection. The only thing to reliably break it and cause the damage to occur is blocking. Then you'l see every cast pop up simultaneously.
People arent being finished off bc of it, ive died bc if it. It's frustrating since not a single 1 of my other characters with instant attacks suffer from this.
It's definitely tied to how they can't fix snipe from stealth desyncs. Skill with a cast or channel time perform terribly in pvp.
Spaghetti spaghetti!!
Yeah weird, I can replicate the sweep issue as pertains to this thread.
But can't figure out how to replicate the heavy attack one.
Hopefully they get both sorted either way for those who are being affected by them.
This is mainly an issue in pvp. Ive got some videos showing some of it.0 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »You just need to weave between puncturing strikes and you will have no problems using it.
That's a lie! Weaving gets you stuck charging a heavy attack and the sweeps bug out and 3 seconds goes by and suddenly a ton of stuff pops on your screen. Last night, in lag, standing on a resource, 4 guards dropped in front of me....i hit with 3 attacks. 3, should have been 16!!!
There must be a trigger for that similar to this the one that causes OP's issue, such as people timing their weave wrong.
If I do 10 sweeps (without weaving but spamming my sweep keybind) - I do 10 over 19s
If I do 10 sweeps (weaving la's) - I do 10 over 15s
If I do 10 sweeps (just pressing sweep before the other finishes) - I do 10 over 14s
That's consistent and can be replicated with ease.
Since the patch I think I've been stuck in 2/3 HA's so I just wonder what the trigger conditions are - Can you replicate it?
Lol it happens every day. Me and a friend have issues. Outside of pvp it's generally not an issue. In pvp, both bgs and cyro, it's awful. Especially in cyrodiil. We both deslotted sweeps, a VITAL skill to templars now since they moved minor protection. The only thing to reliably break it and cause the damage to occur is blocking. Then you'l see every cast pop up simultaneously.
People arent being finished off bc of it, ive died bc if it. It's frustrating since not a single 1 of my other characters with instant attacks suffer from this.
It's definitely tied to how they can't fix snipe from stealth desyncs. Skill with a cast or channel time perform terribly in pvp.
Spaghetti spaghetti!!
Yeah weird, I can replicate the sweep issue as pertains to this thread.
But can't figure out how to replicate the heavy attack one.
Hopefully they get both sorted either way for those who are being affected by them.
This is mainly an issue in pvp. Ive got some videos showing some of it.
Yeah the guy above posted a video of it happening consistently in PvE, it looks like he's doing it the same way by just spamming sweeps when he doesn't need to be.
Watching his puncturing sweep flash every time he hits the bind is interesting to see though, as on console you can only press it once between 2 sweeps regardless of how much you spam it (and see it activate like his do) hopefully the two clients don't have differences.
Oh well, they know about it so hopefully they fix this quickly.vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)0
