Am i trash for doing this dps with those sets? (stamblade pve)

Oberstein

Redguard stamblade velidreth+releq+bw+maelstrom bow, lover mundus stone, Result: 35987 DPS 2m47sec (target skeleton, robust humanoid) ping:150

THE_BIG_BOSS

36k DPS is fine for any content in the game.

Oberstein

THE_BIG_BOSS wrote: »

36k DPS is fine for any content in the game.

Really? people are talking about they doing 50-60k dps and i feels like trash here

THE_BIG_BOSS

Oberstein wrote: »

THE_BIG_BOSS wrote: »

36k DPS is fine for any content in the game.

Really? people are talking about they doing 50-60k dps and i feels like trash here

Yes. They are just bragging and skipping mechanics.

DocFrost72

You'd only ever need more if you wanted to push leaderboards, and something tells me you've not got your sights set on that just yet. You're more than fine.

Oberstein

and i am 600cp now will dps increase when i hit 810cp? with same rotation and sets?

DocFrost72

Invariably, yes. How *much* you'll go up may vary, but you will go up.

Gilvoth

your not "Trash"
there's nothing wrong with you, infact your completely normal and probably a really good PvPer.

the problem is that people die in pvp and they look constantly for the blame to be on other people instead of themselves, they hate us archers and basically any other player that beats them so they come to the forums and zone chat and whisper and specifically target their anger on people who play different then they do.

it's harassment and bashing and embarrassing, and down right bullying.
all we can do is block them.

happens in ever mmo i have ever played but eso seems to be allot more then usual of them doing it.


being an archer is in every MMO i have ever played and i always love playing an archer, here in eso the bow is quite weak compared to other mmo's but it still does a pretty good job if you work really hard at it and find the perfect build and the right armor to help it do "fair" damage, you wont be as high damage as other MMO's but its not garbage.

there will always be archers and a need for "long range" play-style no matter how many insults they hurl at us we are still needed for ranged attacks just as good as the tanks, healers, and toe to toe damage dealers.

dont give it up just cause of their verbal arrows, i been at it for 5 years and its still viable and worthy to be an archer in eso.

Gilvoth

and by the way, you said you got the malestrum bow?
ha, that was NOT easy to get, i bet your pretty good in both pvp and pve lol.

Stratloc

Looking for some affirmation?

jcm2606

@dwemer_paleologist He's not talking about PVP.

Gilvoth

jcm2606 wrote: »

@dwemer_paleologist He's not talking about PVP.

so, it goes for both pve and pvp.

Liofa

Can be a lot higher. If you can post a video, we can help better by pointing out mistakes.

shack80

Just follow the rotation which the top dpsrs use. Rotation means alot on the test. Also your weapon glyphs and traits matter. Infused best for single target and nirn for the aoe dmg.

adeptusminor

Trash? No, absolutely not. Room for a lot of improvement? Yes, if it's something you are interested in and willing to work towards.

MehrunesFlagon

Oberstein wrote: »

Redguard stamblade velidreth+releq+bw+maelstrom bow, lover mundus stone, Result: 35987 DPS 2m47sec (target skeleton, robust humanoid) ping:150

I wouldn't say it's trash I've seen much worse using those.Are you using a dynamic or static rotataion?

JobooAGS

I am not sure what set "bw" is, but if you are going for pve, I would either craft a set of hundings, or find/buy some briarheart jewels (most go with 3x blood thirsty but some go 1 infused 2x blood thirsty, but you dont have to worry about retraiting these, but of you are crafting, then do so) and daggers (preferably in infused, but if you have enough transmute stones then make them infused) with a poison enchant on 1 dagger and absorb stam/disease damage on the other. Your maelstrom bow should be infused with a weapon damage enchant on it. Even with your current gear, you should farm some advancing yokeda jewelry and daggers in hel ra citedel, but briarheart for nbs is a good 2nd or 3rd (with war machine in halls of fabrication hovering around that)

If you have questions about rotation, you can pm me

Silver_Strider

JobooAGS wrote: »

I am not sure what set "bw" is, but if you are going for pve, I would either craft a set of hundings, or find/buy some briarheart jewels (most go with 3x blood thirsty but some go 1 infused 2x blood thirsty, but you dont have to worry about retraiting these, but of you are crafting, then do so) and daggers (preferably in infused, but if you have enough transmute stones then make them infused) with a poison enchant on 1 dagger and absorb stam/disease damage on the other. Your maelstrom bow should be infused with a weapon damage enchant on it. Even with your current gear, you should farm some advancing yokeda jewelry and daggers in hel ra citedel, but briarheart for nbs is a good 2nd or 3rd (with war machine in halls of fabrication hovering around that)

If you have questions about rotation, you can pm me

BW=Berserking Warrior which IS the Advancing Yokeda set.

Navras

everyone on forums is parsing 60/70/80/100k dps.
Then, when you join a Vet dungeon you rarely find people doing more than 10/15k dps each.

Anyhow, to get back in topic, as others have already written you are absolutely not a bad player and 35+ are always good parses.

I was ranging 45-48k on pts with the exact same setup, I wasn't able to reach 50k but I knew I had a room of improvement with more practice. My first parses were in 32/36 range, then I practised a lot and gained some better timing here and there.
You might be surprised on discovering how much you can gain just with a little bit more here and there.

good luck, have fun

JobooAGS

Silver_Strider wrote: »

JobooAGS wrote: »

I am not sure what set "bw" is, but if you are going for pve, I would either craft a set of hundings, or find/buy some briarheart jewels (most go with 3x blood thirsty but some go 1 infused 2x blood thirsty, but you dont have to worry about retraiting these, but of you are crafting, then do so) and daggers (preferably in infused, but if you have enough transmute stones then make them infused) with a poison enchant on 1 dagger and absorb stam/disease damage on the other. Your maelstrom bow should be infused with a weapon damage enchant on it. Even with your current gear, you should farm some advancing yokeda jewelry and daggers in hel ra citedel, but briarheart for nbs is a good 2nd or 3rd (with war machine in halls of fabrication hovering around that)

If you have questions about rotation, you can pm me

BW=Berserking Warrior which IS the Advancing Yokeda set.

Oh, never heard anyone mention AY as beserking warrior. Then at that point, transmute to infused/bloodthirsty

MokiDono

If you have Combat Metrics installed, then please send in a screenshot of your results, so that we can check the uptimes of abilities and buffs so that we can give you accurate advice on where to improve.
You must check your dps from certain abilites, light attacks, and the uptime of your procs, buffs. Gear is not an issue here. You are pretty much optimized for being a target dummy hero. Changing your traits on rings or armor pieces wont net you a 14k dps increase (50k single target, self buffed with your setup is pretty common). I think adding 210 CP won't do it either. It think its just a couple of rotation adjustments that are needed here or getting your light weaving tighter.

Oberstein

Here's the video of me doing dps on robust skeleton.
https://youtu.be/rIsKrCjJjmA

idk

Oberstein wrote: »

THE_BIG_BOSS wrote: »

36k DPS is fine for any content in the game.

Really? people are talking about they doing 50-60k dps and i feels like trash here

While you can get much more dps out of the sets you mentioned, you are above average.

I would suggest infused on all weapons.. Change that life drain enchant to weapon damage as well. Those changes alone should pump the dps a little bit. That life drain enchant does the wrong type of damage for you and does not heal enough to save your bacon.

Also, probably start execute a little earlier. Keep your dots down and execute. If not starting at 25% by 20% for sure. It does go fast on the 3m dummy though.

LiquidPony

Oberstein wrote: »

Here's the video of me doing dps on robust skeleton.
https://youtu.be/rIsKrCjJjmA

Your setup is fine. Your gear is all basically BiS, only thing to change is weapon enchants and your bow should be Infused (not Nirnhoned). Ideally you would run Poison and Absorb Stamina on your DW bar, and Berserker (Weapon Damage) on your bow.

Your rotation just isn't very clean. You miss a lot of light attack weaves, you aren't getting enough bow procs off per cast of Relentless Focus, there are times when you seem to light attack two or three times in a row, you swap to your backbar too early sometimes (I see times where you've still got 3.5s left on Endless Hail and you're swapping to cast it again; the bonus damage of the Maelstrom Bow increases every tick so you want to make sure that you aren't casting it too early, and you also want to make sure you're spending most of your time on your front bar) and you don't start using Killer's Blade until like 5%. At 25% you should be using Killer's Blade instead of Surprise Attack. You'll get a significant DPS boost just by using your execute properly.

At your CP I would wager you should still pretty easily be able to pull 50k DPS with your gear and a clean rotation.

First thing I would recommend is that you install the Combat Metrics addon and post as screenshot of the results of a parse here. Second thing I would do is install the Grim Focus Counter addon and practice your rotation, even if you have to slow down a bit, so that you are always proccing the bow on time. That means your 5th light attack should be weaved into a bow proc.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Trash? Certainly not. Top Tier? Again, certainly not. 36k is plenty for all content, and you certainly have a basic handle on your build and rotation. That said, if you are here asking the question, well there is a LOT of meat on the bone still. 50k is certainly doable self buffed on a stamblade on a robust dummy.

Donny_Vito

Yes

(didn't see anyone else say this so I had to)

Oberstein

colossalvoids

The thing I see from the video is that you don't using surprise attack, but it's on your bar. It should be like ''la-sa-la-sa'' and so on when all the dots are placed. This will add ~5k dps solely. And be mindful about dots times, you will be able to do 50k with this set up.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Oberstein wrote: »

There are two things I will always quickly spot check on a parse. The first is Light attacks per second. You have 99 in a 167 second parse. 99/167 is about 0.6. The best players are above 0.9. The second thing I will look at is average time between Spectral bow procs. 167/12= 13.91. The best players are under 6 seconds.

In other words, your weave needs work, and so does your handling of Relentless focus. It's not bad, but if your looking for what can be improved, start there. Your gear is not the most pressing issue, not by a long shot.

Oberstein

Thank you everyone i'll work on those to improve

Liofa

Your rotation is your biggest problem. Weaving is the second highest reason. Get a stable rotation first that uses 2 bow procs and try to get light weaves properly. You'll hit at least 45k with a stable rotation, probably even more. After that, you can move to dynamic rotation while focusing on 3 bow procs and refreshing buffs/debuffs as they run out.