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Jabs and Major evasion

Skander
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Buff jabs or nerf major evasion

asap


I'm sick of changes that drag down a class becouse a developer felt like changing it
I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
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  • Sharee
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    Skander wrote: »
    Buff jabs or nerf major evasion

    asap


    I'm sick of changes that drag down a class becouse a developer felt like changing it

    Jabs already single out one target as the "main" target (the closest one that takes extra damage). It would help if this "higher" damage was considered single-target, not AOE (because thats what it is, it only affects one target).
  • Solariken
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    Stamplar main here. I think it's fine as is.
  • Skander
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    Solariken wrote: »
    Stamplar main here. I think it's fine as is.

    Definetly using bleeds
    I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
    -Elder Nightblades Online
    Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations
  • Waffennacht
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    I thought everyone absolutely hated the changes to Evasion except me; I personally thought 25% dmg reduction against AoE was way better than a .15 chance to have a light attack miss...

    Apparently there's a few others out there like me.
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  • Sharee
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    I thought everyone absolutely hated the changes to Evasion except me; I personally thought 25% dmg reduction against AoE was way better than a .15 chance to have a light attack miss...

    Apparently there's a few others out there like me.

    Evasion gave all dodgeable attacks a 15% chance to miss, not just light attacks.
  • technohic
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    I thought everyone absolutely hated the changes to Evasion except me; I personally thought 25% dmg reduction against AoE was way better than a .15 chance to have a light attack miss...

    Apparently there's a few others out there like me.

    Works better now if you rely on dodge roll. Evasion now covers the undodgeables. of course the unit frame nerf didn't help dodge roll.
  • katorga
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    What is really unfair about it is that only one class has unfettered access to it, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.
  • montiferus
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    I thought everyone absolutely hated the changes to Evasion except me; I personally thought 25% dmg reduction against AoE was way better than a .15 chance to have a light attack miss...

    Apparently there's a few others out there like me.

    i love how everyone acts like it was an either or situation. some of us medium dw users were running both.

    this is a nerf plain and simple. coupled with the loss of minor vitality and no longer getting 100% uptime on minor protection im concerned about medium stamplar.
  • brandonv516
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    katorga wrote: »
    What is really unfair about it is that only one class has unfettered access to it, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.

    And one class has Major Mending, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.
    And one class has Major Vitality, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.
    And one class has Major Heroism, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.

    These are pretty huge buffs that my Nightblade would like to have without a Restoration staff. Major Heroism is very exclusive! But yes it's extremely unfair that Nightblade gets easy access to a Major buff that is not so hard to get in the first place.

    Oh and considering you can get it crafted:

    Armor Set: Hist Bark (Crafted)
    Armor Set: Spectre's Eye (Crafted)
    Armor Set: Adept Rider (Crafted)

    I'm pretty sure you won't be 'fettered' by armor type, weapon type, stamina or magicka.
  • Jimmy_The_Fixer
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    katorga wrote: »
    What is really unfair about it is that only one class has unfettered access to it, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.

    And one class has Major Mending, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.
    And one class has Major Vitality, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.
    And one class has Major Heroism, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.

    These are pretty huge buffs that my Nightblade would like to have without a Restoration staff. Major Heroism is very exclusive! But yes it's extremely unfair that Nightblade gets easy access to a Major buff that is not so hard to get in the first place.

    Oh and considering you can get it crafted:

    Armor Set: Hist Bark (Crafted)
    Armor Set: Spectre's Eye (Crafted)
    Armor Set: Adept Rider (Crafted)

    I'm pretty sure you won't be 'fettered' by armor type, weapon type, stamina or magicka.

    Adept rider? That has got to be the funniest thing I've seen today.

    "It's ok, you can get this buff, just leave combat, mount up, and dismount on top of the person you plan on fighting."

    Personally, I'm not really upset by the low distribution of major evasion, but bringing up adept rider is a troll move.
  • Waffennacht
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    Sharee wrote: »
    I thought everyone absolutely hated the changes to Evasion except me; I personally thought 25% dmg reduction against AoE was way better than a .15 chance to have a light attack miss...

    Apparently there's a few others out there like me.

    Evasion gave all dodgeable attacks a 15% chance to miss, not just light attacks.

    I was speaking tongue in cheek >:)
    technohic wrote: »
    I thought everyone absolutely hated the changes to Evasion except me; I personally thought 25% dmg reduction against AoE was way better than a .15 chance to have a light attack miss...

    Apparently there's a few others out there like me.

    Works better now if you rely on dodge roll. Evasion now covers the undodgeables. of course the unit frame nerf didn't help dodge roll.

    I agree, I run a rolly build and really prefer the -25% on Leap, Dawnbreaker, Shalk, and Jabs - I'd run it if it only affected these abilities lol
    montiferus wrote: »
    I thought everyone absolutely hated the changes to Evasion except me; I personally thought 25% dmg reduction against AoE was way better than a .15 chance to have a light attack miss...

    Apparently there's a few others out there like me.

    i love how everyone acts like it was an either or situation. some of us medium dw users were running both.

    this is a nerf plain and simple. coupled with the loss of minor vitality and no longer getting 100% uptime on minor protection im concerned about medium stamplar.

    I don't have nearly enough room for shuffle and quick/deadly cloak, but if you did, then it is a Nerf - and I completely understand why some feel it is a Nerf; for me it's strictly a buff
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  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Sharee wrote: »
    I thought everyone absolutely hated the changes to Evasion except me; I personally thought 25% dmg reduction against AoE was way better than a .15 chance to have a light attack miss...

    Apparently there's a few others out there like me.

    Evasion gave all dodgeable attacks a 15% chance to miss, not just light attacks.

    I was speaking tongue in cheek >:)
    technohic wrote: »
    I thought everyone absolutely hated the changes to Evasion except me; I personally thought 25% dmg reduction against AoE was way better than a .15 chance to have a light attack miss...

    Apparently there's a few others out there like me.

    Works better now if you rely on dodge roll. Evasion now covers the undodgeables. of course the unit frame nerf didn't help dodge roll.

    I agree, I run a rolly build and really prefer the -25% on Leap, Dawnbreaker, Shalk, and Jabs - I'd run it if it only affected these abilities lol
    montiferus wrote: »
    I thought everyone absolutely hated the changes to Evasion except me; I personally thought 25% dmg reduction against AoE was way better than a .15 chance to have a light attack miss...

    Apparently there's a few others out there like me.

    i love how everyone acts like it was an either or situation. some of us medium dw users were running both.

    this is a nerf plain and simple. coupled with the loss of minor vitality and no longer getting 100% uptime on minor protection im concerned about medium stamplar.

    I don't have nearly enough room for shuffle and quick/deadly cloak, but if you did, then it is a Nerf - and I completely understand why some feel it is a Nerf; for me it's strictly a buff

    I consider it a buff simply bc it's not a random chance and you can depend on it.
  • Thogard
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    I thought everyone absolutely hated the changes to Evasion except me; I personally thought 25% dmg reduction against AoE was way better than a .15 chance to have a light attack miss...

    Apparently there's a few others out there like me.

    You’re right. It is stronger. Which is why I was already using blade cloak...

    Ugh. Now I can’t stack bladecloak and shuffle for sick dmg mitigation :(
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  • The_Brosteen
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    Skander wrote: »
    Solariken wrote: »
    Stamplar main here. I think it's fine as is.

    Definetly using bleeds

    Im not using bleeds and I agree, I think jabs damage is fine atm. Maybe tweak your build?
  • SugaComa
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    If I remember rightly master at arms I creased the initial target damage ... So bang a few CP in their to help
  • Ender1310
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    Ugh hate the stamplar play style. Jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab even the magplars stupid Beam beam beam. Class needs a new style of play. <-- my opinion.
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Ender1310 wrote: »
    Ugh hate the stamplar play style. Jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab even the magplars stupid Beam beam beam. Class needs a new style of play. <-- my opinion.

    If that's how you're playing them no wonder you don't like it.
  • Ishtharo
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    Ender1310 wrote: »
    Ugh hate the stamplar play style. Jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab even the magplars stupid Beam beam beam. Class needs a new style of play. <-- my opinion.

    If that's how you're playing them no wonder you don't like it.

    This man gets it
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  • Ariades_swe
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    Ender1310 wrote: »
    Ugh hate the stamplar play style. Jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab even the magplars stupid Beam beam beam. Class needs a new style of play. <-- my opinion.

    If that's how you're playing them no wonder you don't like it.

    Lol yeah
  • Ender1310
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    Ender1310 wrote: »
    Ugh hate the stamplar play style. Jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab even the magplars stupid Beam beam beam. Class needs a new style of play. <-- my opinion.

    If that's how you're playing them no wonder you don't like it.

    Lol yeah

    That's all I see in Cyrodil so...jabs jabs jabs jabs and more jabs. Maybe there is something else to it. What do you buff yourself first? Then jabsjabs jabs jabs?
  • Waffennacht
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    Ender1310 wrote: »
    Ender1310 wrote: »
    Ugh hate the stamplar play style. Jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab even the magplars stupid Beam beam beam. Class needs a new style of play. <-- my opinion.

    If that's how you're playing them no wonder you don't like it.

    Lol yeah

    That's all I see in Cyrodil so...jabs jabs jabs jabs and more jabs. Maybe there is something else to it. What do you buff yourself first? Then jabsjabs jabs jabs?

    I don't even have jabs slotted O.O
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    1300+ CP
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  • Sky_WK
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    katorga wrote: »
    What is really unfair about it is that only one class has unfettered access to it, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.

    And one class has Major Mending, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.
    And one class has Major Vitality, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.
    And one class has Major Heroism, regardless of stamina/magicka, armor type or weapon type.

    These are pretty huge buffs that my Nightblade would like to have without a Restoration staff. Major Heroism is very exclusive! But yes it's extremely unfair that Nightblade gets easy access to a Major buff that is not so hard to get in the first place.

    Oh and considering you can get it crafted:

    Armor Set: Hist Bark (Crafted)
    Armor Set: Spectre's Eye (Crafted)
    Armor Set: Adept Rider (Crafted)

    I'm pretty sure you won't be 'fettered' by armor type, weapon type, stamina or magicka.

    Lmao you just recommended Adept Rider, proof that no one should value opinion.
    i do not read replies. still playing stamdk for some reason.
  • Didgerion
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    Skander wrote: »
    Buff jabs or nerf major evasion

    asap


    I'm sick of changes that drag down a class becouse a developer felt like changing it

    The same situation most mag sorcerers are having with reflects (DK wings specifically)!

    No, it won't be adjusted.

    Your class just got a rock in the scissors
  • ccmedaddy
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    Buff jabs or nerf major evasion

    asap


    I'm sick of changes that drag down a class becouse a developer felt like changing it

    The same situation most mag sorcerers are having with reflects (DK wings specifically)!

    No, it won't be adjusted.

    Your class just got a rock in the scissors
    Um... one is a class skill and the other is an easily obtainable buff that's available to more than half of Cyrodil population. Not even remotely the same thing.
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Ender1310 wrote: »
    Ender1310 wrote: »
    Ugh hate the stamplar play style. Jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab even the magplars stupid Beam beam beam. Class needs a new style of play. <-- my opinion.

    If that's how you're playing them no wonder you don't like it.

    Lol yeah

    That's all I see in Cyrodil so...jabs jabs jabs jabs and more jabs. Maybe there is something else to it. What do you buff yourself first? Then jabsjabs jabs jabs?

    When you're an inexperienced player that comes to the forums, youre gonna sound like this lol.
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