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WORLD'S FIRST Murkmire Master Angler!
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ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Murkmire has been out for a bit, so I doubt you're the first.
However this is the first documented claim so...co gratulations
Btw where's the sarcasm? You achieved something and posted about it
Except fishing in Murkmire has been bugged, and therefore unobtainable, up until the latest patch.
As for the sarcasm, I guess you needed to have followed the forums for the last couple of weeks to get that one.
Oh no, I GET it...but it's a stupid point to be making, since a lot of people share their achievements here and everyone meets it with open arms. It's only endgame PvE where people get all pissy about things.
Hodor has every right to share their achievements
(Plus if fishing was bugged maybe you should have done weeks of extensive testing to report to ZOS so that it can be fixed so that it can actually be done on release, just like Hodor did)
Dude... Duuuude... 😂 Why, why, do you think all achieve shared are welcomed but the high end pve ones aren't? That's because it's not sharing, it's bragging! Hehe
Can't you see that?
Also, can't you see that this post is nothing else if not a bait for toxic/cancerous elitist apologists such as yourself? Hehe
My post will be deleted but I hope you read it first because you made me laugh a bit with your naiveness. And for that, thanks.
Have a great day, good human. It's Saturday, after all!
In time... It's a public forum, as long as you follow the rules, you ha r the right to post anything here, really. And everyone ALSO has the right to reply with their opinion, doesn't matter if they are good or bad. You post it, you handle it, right? Bragging and bashing are like hateful siblings, always chasing after each other. There's no stopping it.
(God, I love these topics. Perfect to reply when I'm bored. :P)
That's not really bragging any more than anything else is bragging.
If "I got 1000 CP! Yay me!" and "Woohoo, fishes!" is sharing, why is "Woohoo, we were the first ones to clear vBRP! Here's a picture of the skin!" bragging?
I'm really curious, what's the core difference here?
One is mindless grinding, the other is weeks of practice combined with countless bug reports to even get the content to a level where it is able to be cleared without massive bugs. Why am I a cancerous elitist apologist for saying that there is no reason to flame Hodor and bite the hands that feed you guys, but you are the white knight hero for battling those terrible endgame players who seek to ruin all of the content in the game by...completing it before everyone else?
Once again, please explain the difference. And also explain to me why I'm a cancerous elitist simply for defending people that are being attacked for being better players than others are?
I misspoke, it seems. I meant you are an apologist for toxic elitist, bit that you a toxic elitist. I have no way of knowing that.
Also, hands that feed me? Report bugs to make content clearable? You really really think they are the only ones doing that? I'm not thanking them for doing it, this is legit a community as a whole thing, they won't get credit for it... As far as I know, they are just as important as I am, when it comes to getting in touch with devs to fix things. Nah ah...
You wanna go ahead and get their chairs warm for then to sit in it, do it. You do you, but don't expect me to be thankful when they have never done absolutely anything for me. I never even if anyone's build but my own, it took my literally hundreds of hours of game time to come up with enough knowledge for that. Using recommended builds would def easier, but I got there entirely on my own. And I know enough of this game to adapt my builds every patch (sad!) Without needing to wait on your gods to tell me what to do. No... I don't owe them anything at all.
So yeah... You're an apologist. Not toxic, I don't think. You're actually kinda fun to debate since you don't get all pissy and stuff.
I'll go ahead and say though... I did send tons of people to alcast website and deltia before that when I didn't have the patience or time to help everyone.
Lastly now, I promise, I don't think they ruin everyone's game by bragging here! They do it when they set the bar so high that the average player thinks everyone running trials and dungeons is like that so they never bother even running these contents because they "suck". Or they believe they suck. Because toxic players...3 -
Latios✭✭✭✭✭Great amazing incredible omg so awesome by azura by azura by azura!
Well done, sir. Both on the achiev and on the sarcasm.The Eon Pokémon.1 -
MyNameIsElias✭✭✭✭✭
✭Congratulations my friend, very well deserved I am a Master Angler on 32characters, check the link below for some cool data!
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456559/30-master-anglers-proof-that-the-artaeum-pickled-fish-bowl-works#latest1 -
Tib✭✭✭
I'll leave now but I'll hold the door for the others.Carbonised wrote: »
Warning: this post contains traces of sarcasm
Rofl! Have an awesome
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Cryptical✭✭✭✭✭
✭Carbonised wrote: »Murkmire has been out for a bit, so I doubt you're the first.
However this is the first documented claim so...co gratulations
Btw where's the sarcasm? You achieved something and posted about it
Except fishing in Murkmire has been bugged, and therefore unobtainable, up until the latest patch.
As for the sarcasm, I guess you needed to have followed the forums for the last couple of weeks to get that one.
Oh no, I GET it...but it's a stupid point to be making, since a lot of people share their achievements here and everyone meets it with open arms. It's only endgame PvE where people get all pissy about things.
Hodor has every right to share their achievements
(Plus if fishing was bugged maybe you should have done weeks of extensive testing to report to ZOS so that it can be fixed so that it can actually be done on release, just like Hodor did)
Dude... Duuuude... 😂 Why, why, do you think all achieve shared are welcomed but the high end pve ones aren't? That's because it's not sharing, it's bragging! Hehe
Can't you see that?
Also, can't you see that this post is nothing else if not a bait for toxic/cancerous elitist apologists such as yourself? Hehe
My post will be deleted but I hope you read it first because you made me laugh a bit with your naiveness. And for that, thanks.
Have a great day, good human. It's Saturday, after all!
In time... It's a public forum, as long as you follow the rules, you ha r the right to post anything here, really. And everyone ALSO has the right to reply with their opinion, doesn't matter if they are good or bad. You post it, you handle it, right? Bragging and bashing are like hateful siblings, always chasing after each other. There's no stopping it.
(God, I love these topics. Perfect to reply when I'm bored. :P)
That's not really bragging any more than anything else is bragging.
If "I got 1000 CP! Yay me!" and "Woohoo, fishes!" is sharing, why is "Woohoo, we were the first ones to clear vBRP! Here's a picture of the skin!" bragging?
I'm really curious, what's the core difference here?
One is mindless grinding, the other is weeks of practice combined with countless bug reports to even get the content to a level where it is able to be cleared without massive bugs. Why am I a cancerous elitist apologist for saying that there is no reason to flame Hodor and bite the hands that feed you guys, but you are the white knight hero for battling those terrible endgame players who seek to ruin all of the content in the game by...completing it before everyone else?
Once again, please explain the difference. And also explain to me why I'm a cancerous elitist simply for defending people that are being attacked for being better players than others are?
The reason to scoff at hodor is the test server provides crutches.
Sure, the pc platform characters are copied over, but more useful is the template option for a new test character. Those templates come with all the goodies imaginable. A bag with all overland sets in the game, for all the possible gear slots plus all weapons, in all useful traits. A bag with the same ‘include all’ for monster sets. Trial sets - all the perfected stuff in gold. All traits researched. A transmute geode of infinite transmute stones. If something needed improvement, thousands of tempers etc are in the template bags.
And so on. Including any new gear.
Everything in the crown store costs 1crown.
So everyone can make a template character. Log in and walk naked straight into the new content, then pull the best in slot gear for any playstyle they want from their inventory. Respec Scrolls cost 1 crown, so respec skill morphs on the fly. They are handed a million gold, so respec champ points on the fly.
The strategy is simple. Walk in with 4 of each role in diff BiS gear, see which works best with the first trash group. Adjust, using the template gear. Same with the first boss - it’s hard to kill any group that has 4 tanks and 4 healers, so people have a really easy time writing down what fight mechanic happens at which time or percentage point. There is no pressure. If the first clear takes 6 hours, then each combat along every inch of the place has been mapped and measured and diagrammed and cost them NOTHING because of the infinite gear / gold / etc.
The template option grants the player all the possible rewards for perfect completion of all the content. It would be like if you had a backpack with infinite money and could pull out any object you wanted, and had all knowledge in the world downloaded into your head. Put together a team of 12 such people, each with those backpacks, and any task becomes a lot easier.
Furthermore, such backpacks in the test server allow people to avoid time wasted on costly experimentation on the live server.
That’s why the “First!” post is a tacky brag. They didn’t have the limitations of normal characters, or even of normal players. Would anyone imagine doing a race change in the middle of a boss fight to switch up the effects of their rotation? That’s a ridiculous idea for normal play, an outrageous expense of crowns that cost real money. But on the test server, it’s free money and so even the dollar costs fall away.
If they had to test with just their live characters, at least they would have to go get gear they didn’t already have rather than pull it from the magic gear bag. They wouldn’t be able to use the best new gear to beat the new content the first time.
They temporarily are granted the powers of Superman, use the powers to map a trial in near-perfect safety, and are hailed as awesome for the skill? Nah. The test server is ESO’s miniature god-mode. Let’s see how people do without such assistance.Xbox NA7 -
Emmagoldman✭✭✭✭✭
✭Carbonised wrote: »(Plus if fishing was bugged maybe you should have done weeks of extensive testing to report to ZOS so that it can be fixed so that it can actually be done on release, just like Hodor did)
You don't think we reported a million bugs on the PTS already? Don't blame us for ZOS' incompetence. And don't blame us for ZOS prioritizing fixing arena bugs over questing, fishing and other bugs.
And tanks for calling fishing mindless grinding. Truly heartwarming ^^
yes, they should prioritize fishing over major content release. Also of course its mindless grinding. Mindless meaning without use of thought, and can you argue its not a grind. Hit E, Hit E again1 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Murkmire has been out for a bit, so I doubt you're the first.
However this is the first documented claim so...co gratulations
Btw where's the sarcasm? You achieved something and posted about it
Except fishing in Murkmire has been bugged, and therefore unobtainable, up until the latest patch.
As for the sarcasm, I guess you needed to have followed the forums for the last couple of weeks to get that one.
Oh no, I GET it...but it's a stupid point to be making, since a lot of people share their achievements here and everyone meets it with open arms. It's only endgame PvE where people get all pissy about things.
Hodor has every right to share their achievements
(Plus if fishing was bugged maybe you should have done weeks of extensive testing to report to ZOS so that it can be fixed so that it can actually be done on release, just like Hodor did)
Dude... Duuuude... 😂 Why, why, do you think all achieve shared are welcomed but the high end pve ones aren't? That's because it's not sharing, it's bragging! Hehe
Can't you see that?
Also, can't you see that this post is nothing else if not a bait for toxic/cancerous elitist apologists such as yourself? Hehe
My post will be deleted but I hope you read it first because you made me laugh a bit with your naiveness. And for that, thanks.
Have a great day, good human. It's Saturday, after all!
In time... It's a public forum, as long as you follow the rules, you ha r the right to post anything here, really. And everyone ALSO has the right to reply with their opinion, doesn't matter if they are good or bad. You post it, you handle it, right? Bragging and bashing are like hateful siblings, always chasing after each other. There's no stopping it.
(God, I love these topics. Perfect to reply when I'm bored. :P)
That's not really bragging any more than anything else is bragging.
If "I got 1000 CP! Yay me!" and "Woohoo, fishes!" is sharing, why is "Woohoo, we were the first ones to clear vBRP! Here's a picture of the skin!" bragging?
I'm really curious, what's the core difference here?
One is mindless grinding, the other is weeks of practice combined with countless bug reports to even get the content to a level where it is able to be cleared without massive bugs. Why am I a cancerous elitist apologist for saying that there is no reason to flame Hodor and bite the hands that feed you guys, but you are the white knight hero for battling those terrible endgame players who seek to ruin all of the content in the game by...completing it before everyone else?
Once again, please explain the difference. And also explain to me why I'm a cancerous elitist simply for defending people that are being attacked for being better players than others are?
The reason to scoff at hodor is the test server provides crutches.
Sure, the pc platform characters are copied over, but more useful is the template option for a new test character. Those templates come with all the goodies imaginable. A bag with all overland sets in the game, for all the possible gear slots plus all weapons, in all useful traits. A bag with the same ‘include all’ for monster sets. Trial sets - all the perfected stuff in gold. All traits researched. A transmute geode of infinite transmute stones. If something needed improvement, thousands of tempers etc are in the template bags.
And so on. Including any new gear.
Everything in the crown store costs 1crown.
So everyone can make a template character. Log in and walk naked straight into the new content, then pull the best in slot gear for any playstyle they want from their inventory. Respec Scrolls cost 1 crown, so respec skill morphs on the fly. They are handed a million gold, so respec champ points on the fly.
The strategy is simple. Walk in with 4 of each role in diff BiS gear, see which works best with the first trash group. Adjust, using the template gear. Same with the first boss - it’s hard to kill any group that has 4 tanks and 4 healers, so people have a really easy time writing down what fight mechanic happens at which time or percentage point. There is no pressure. If the first clear takes 6 hours, then each combat along every inch of the place has been mapped and measured and diagrammed and cost them NOTHING because of the infinite gear / gold / etc.
The template option grants the player all the possible rewards for perfect completion of all the content. It would be like if you had a backpack with infinite money and could pull out any object you wanted, and had all knowledge in the world downloaded into your head. Put together a team of 12 such people, each with those backpacks, and any task becomes a lot easier.
Furthermore, such backpacks in the test server allow people to avoid time wasted on costly experimentation on the live server.
That’s why the “First!” post is a tacky brag. They didn’t have the limitations of normal characters, or even of normal players. Would anyone imagine doing a race change in the middle of a boss fight to switch up the effects of their rotation? That’s a ridiculous idea for normal play, an outrageous expense of crowns that cost real money. But on the test server, it’s free money and so even the dollar costs fall away.
If they had to test with just their live characters, at least they would have to go get gear they didn’t already have rather than pull it from the magic gear bag. They wouldn’t be able to use the best new gear to beat the new content the first time.
They temporarily are granted the powers of Superman, use the powers to map a trial in near-perfect safety, and are hailed as awesome for the skill? Nah. The test server is ESO’s miniature god-mode. Let’s see how people do without such assistance.
Bro lol. You don't think they already had most of the sets they might have wanted?
It's Hodor ffs. (Btw, you can't race change in game, you have to log out. You actually have no idea what you're even talking about). They have money, they have gear, and they have experience. The conditions of the PTS basically mean nothing to them.
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AllPlayAndNoWork✭✭✭✭✭Carbonised wrote: »
Warning: this post contains traces of sarcasm
Dropping by just to say I had only read the title and I already knew exactly the joke you were going for, felt the need to come congratulate you.
I'll leave now but I'll hold the door for the others.
I see what you did there...... bravo !2 -
Vildebill✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Haha this is the biggest circle jerk thread I've seen for people who got butthurt by the best PvE guild in the game.EU PC2 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emmagoldman wrote: »Carbonised wrote: »(Plus if fishing was bugged maybe you should have done weeks of extensive testing to report to ZOS so that it can be fixed so that it can actually be done on release, just like Hodor did)
You don't think we reported a million bugs on the PTS already? Don't blame us for ZOS' incompetence. And don't blame us for ZOS prioritizing fixing arena bugs over questing, fishing and other bugs.
And tanks for calling fishing mindless grinding. Truly heartwarming ^^
yes, they should prioritize fishing over major content release. Also of course its mindless grinding. Mindless meaning without use of thought, and can you argue its not a grind. Hit E, Hit E again
Mindless? There's eight different baits to choose from.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."5 -
therift✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Murkmire has been out for a bit, so I doubt you're the first.
However this is the first documented claim so...co gratulations
Btw where's the sarcasm? You achieved something and posted about it
Except fishing in Murkmire has been bugged, and therefore unobtainable, up until the latest patch.
As for the sarcasm, I guess you needed to have followed the forums for the last couple of weeks to get that one.
Oh no, I GET it...but it's a stupid point to be making, since a lot of people share their achievements here and everyone meets it with open arms. It's only endgame PvE where people get all pissy about things.
Hodor has every right to share their achievements
(Plus if fishing was bugged maybe you should have done weeks of extensive testing to report to ZOS so that it can be fixed so that it can actually be done on release, just like Hodor did)
Dude... Duuuude... 😂 Why, why, do you think all achieve shared are welcomed but the high end pve ones aren't? That's because it's not sharing, it's bragging! Hehe
Can't you see that?
Also, can't you see that this post is nothing else if not a bait for toxic/cancerous elitist apologists such as yourself? Hehe
My post will be deleted but I hope you read it first because you made me laugh a bit with your naiveness. And for that, thanks.
Have a great day, good human. It's Saturday, after all!
In time... It's a public forum, as long as you follow the rules, you ha r the right to post anything here, really. And everyone ALSO has the right to reply with their opinion, doesn't matter if they are good or bad. You post it, you handle it, right? Bragging and bashing are like hateful siblings, always chasing after each other. There's no stopping it.
(God, I love these topics. Perfect to reply when I'm bored. :P)
That's not really bragging any more than anything else is bragging.
If "I got 1000 CP! Yay me!" and "Woohoo, fishes!" is sharing, why is "Woohoo, we were the first ones to clear vBRP! Here's a picture of the skin!" bragging?
I'm really curious, what's the core difference here?
One is mindless grinding, the other is weeks of practice combined with countless bug reports to even get the content to a level where it is able to be cleared without massive bugs. Why am I a cancerous elitist apologist for saying that there is no reason to flame Hodor and bite the hands that feed you guys, but you are the white knight hero for battling those terrible endgame players who seek to ruin all of the content in the game by...completing it before everyone else?
Once again, please explain the difference. And also explain to me why I'm a cancerous elitist simply for defending people that are being attacked for being better players than others are?
The reason to scoff at hodor is the test server provides crutches.
Sure, the pc platform characters are copied over, but more useful is the template option for a new test character. Those templates come with all the goodies imaginable. A bag with all overland sets in the game, for all the possible gear slots plus all weapons, in all useful traits. A bag with the same ‘include all’ for monster sets. Trial sets - all the perfected stuff in gold. All traits researched. A transmute geode of infinite transmute stones. If something needed improvement, thousands of tempers etc are in the template bags.
And so on. Including any new gear.
Everything in the crown store costs 1crown.
So everyone can make a template character. Log in and walk naked straight into the new content, then pull the best in slot gear for any playstyle they want from their inventory. Respec Scrolls cost 1 crown, so respec skill morphs on the fly. They are handed a million gold, so respec champ points on the fly.
The strategy is simple. Walk in with 4 of each role in diff BiS gear, see which works best with the first trash group. Adjust, using the template gear. Same with the first boss - it’s hard to kill any group that has 4 tanks and 4 healers, so people have a really easy time writing down what fight mechanic happens at which time or percentage point. There is no pressure. If the first clear takes 6 hours, then each combat along every inch of the place has been mapped and measured and diagrammed and cost them NOTHING because of the infinite gear / gold / etc.
The template option grants the player all the possible rewards for perfect completion of all the content. It would be like if you had a backpack with infinite money and could pull out any object you wanted, and had all knowledge in the world downloaded into your head. Put together a team of 12 such people, each with those backpacks, and any task becomes a lot easier.
Furthermore, such backpacks in the test server allow people to avoid time wasted on costly experimentation on the live server.
That’s why the “First!” post is a tacky brag. They didn’t have the limitations of normal characters, or even of normal players. Would anyone imagine doing a race change in the middle of a boss fight to switch up the effects of their rotation? That’s a ridiculous idea for normal play, an outrageous expense of crowns that cost real money. But on the test server, it’s free money and so even the dollar costs fall away.
If they had to test with just their live characters, at least they would have to go get gear they didn’t already have rather than pull it from the magic gear bag. They wouldn’t be able to use the best new gear to beat the new content the first time.
They temporarily are granted the powers of Superman, use the powers to map a trial in near-perfect safety, and are hailed as awesome for the skill? Nah. The test server is ESO’s miniature god-mode. Let’s see how people do without such assistance.
Bro lol. You don't think they already had most of the sets they might have wanted?
It's Hodor ffs. (Btw, you can't race change in game, you have to log out. You actually have no idea what you're even talking about). They have money, they have gear, and they have experience. The conditions of the PTS basically mean nothing to them.
Next, please
Nice job ignoring 95% of the post. You should be in politics
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Murkmire has been out for a bit, so I doubt you're the first.
However this is the first documented claim so...co gratulations
Btw where's the sarcasm? You achieved something and posted about it
Except fishing in Murkmire has been bugged, and therefore unobtainable, up until the latest patch.
As for the sarcasm, I guess you needed to have followed the forums for the last couple of weeks to get that one.
Oh no, I GET it...but it's a stupid point to be making, since a lot of people share their achievements here and everyone meets it with open arms. It's only endgame PvE where people get all pissy about things.
Hodor has every right to share their achievements
(Plus if fishing was bugged maybe you should have done weeks of extensive testing to report to ZOS so that it can be fixed so that it can actually be done on release, just like Hodor did)
Dude... Duuuude... 😂 Why, why, do you think all achieve shared are welcomed but the high end pve ones aren't? That's because it's not sharing, it's bragging! Hehe
Can't you see that?
Also, can't you see that this post is nothing else if not a bait for toxic/cancerous elitist apologists such as yourself? Hehe
My post will be deleted but I hope you read it first because you made me laugh a bit with your naiveness. And for that, thanks.
Have a great day, good human. It's Saturday, after all!
In time... It's a public forum, as long as you follow the rules, you ha r the right to post anything here, really. And everyone ALSO has the right to reply with their opinion, doesn't matter if they are good or bad. You post it, you handle it, right? Bragging and bashing are like hateful siblings, always chasing after each other. There's no stopping it.
(God, I love these topics. Perfect to reply when I'm bored. :P)
That's not really bragging any more than anything else is bragging.
If "I got 1000 CP! Yay me!" and "Woohoo, fishes!" is sharing, why is "Woohoo, we were the first ones to clear vBRP! Here's a picture of the skin!" bragging?
I'm really curious, what's the core difference here?
One is mindless grinding, the other is weeks of practice combined with countless bug reports to even get the content to a level where it is able to be cleared without massive bugs. Why am I a cancerous elitist apologist for saying that there is no reason to flame Hodor and bite the hands that feed you guys, but you are the white knight hero for battling those terrible endgame players who seek to ruin all of the content in the game by...completing it before everyone else?
Once again, please explain the difference. And also explain to me why I'm a cancerous elitist simply for defending people that are being attacked for being better players than others are?
The reason to scoff at hodor is the test server provides crutches.
Sure, the pc platform characters are copied over, but more useful is the template option for a new test character. Those templates come with all the goodies imaginable. A bag with all overland sets in the game, for all the possible gear slots plus all weapons, in all useful traits. A bag with the same ‘include all’ for monster sets. Trial sets - all the perfected stuff in gold. All traits researched. A transmute geode of infinite transmute stones. If something needed improvement, thousands of tempers etc are in the template bags.
And so on. Including any new gear.
Everything in the crown store costs 1crown.
So everyone can make a template character. Log in and walk naked straight into the new content, then pull the best in slot gear for any playstyle they want from their inventory. Respec Scrolls cost 1 crown, so respec skill morphs on the fly. They are handed a million gold, so respec champ points on the fly.
The strategy is simple. Walk in with 4 of each role in diff BiS gear, see which works best with the first trash group. Adjust, using the template gear. Same with the first boss - it’s hard to kill any group that has 4 tanks and 4 healers, so people have a really easy time writing down what fight mechanic happens at which time or percentage point. There is no pressure. If the first clear takes 6 hours, then each combat along every inch of the place has been mapped and measured and diagrammed and cost them NOTHING because of the infinite gear / gold / etc.
The template option grants the player all the possible rewards for perfect completion of all the content. It would be like if you had a backpack with infinite money and could pull out any object you wanted, and had all knowledge in the world downloaded into your head. Put together a team of 12 such people, each with those backpacks, and any task becomes a lot easier.
Furthermore, such backpacks in the test server allow people to avoid time wasted on costly experimentation on the live server.
That’s why the “First!” post is a tacky brag. They didn’t have the limitations of normal characters, or even of normal players. Would anyone imagine doing a race change in the middle of a boss fight to switch up the effects of their rotation? That’s a ridiculous idea for normal play, an outrageous expense of crowns that cost real money. But on the test server, it’s free money and so even the dollar costs fall away.
If they had to test with just their live characters, at least they would have to go get gear they didn’t already have rather than pull it from the magic gear bag. They wouldn’t be able to use the best new gear to beat the new content the first time.
They temporarily are granted the powers of Superman, use the powers to map a trial in near-perfect safety, and are hailed as awesome for the skill? Nah. The test server is ESO’s miniature god-mode. Let’s see how people do without such assistance.
Bro lol. You don't think they already had most of the sets they might have wanted?
It's Hodor ffs. (Btw, you can't race change in game, you have to log out. You actually have no idea what you're even talking about). They have money, they have gear, and they have experience. The conditions of the PTS basically mean nothing to them.
Next, please
Nice job ignoring 95% of the post. You should be in politics
95% of their post was the PTS is a crutch. I addressed all of it. Just because my post wasnt as long, does not mean I ignored himValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭different strokes for different folks...get in where you fit in, and, all that other feel good kind of stuff...
nothing wrong with feeling good about something - particularly when it doesn't come at the expense of others...
my nana used to love crocheting blankets, not my cup of tea, but, she was very proud of her work...it made her happy...
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✭✭✭✭✭But, did you use any custom addons?
Edited by max_only on November 4, 2018 8:55PM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭✭✭✭✭Emmagoldman wrote: »Carbonised wrote: »(Plus if fishing was bugged maybe you should have done weeks of extensive testing to report to ZOS so that it can be fixed so that it can actually be done on release, just like Hodor did)
You don't think we reported a million bugs on the PTS already? Don't blame us for ZOS' incompetence. And don't blame us for ZOS prioritizing fixing arena bugs over questing, fishing and other bugs.
And tanks for calling fishing mindless grinding. Truly heartwarming ^^
yes, they should prioritize fishing over major content release. Also of course its mindless grinding. Mindless meaning without use of thought, and can you argue its not a grind. Hit E, Hit E again
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✭(Btw, you can't race change in game, you have to log out. You actually have no idea what you're even talking about).
You can race change fast, while the rest of the group is still there. Either log out if you can get a bit of distance and time without getting hit in order to lose aggro, or force quit.
I *did* say it was a ridiculous extreme. Yet, the bars are lowered on the test server to such an extent that such a ridiculous extreme is not only possible but would be a rational thing. If the initial foray decides that stam sucks and the people switch to magic, it could easily be faster to exit aggro and run a race change on the template character rather than deal with the clerical issues of getting everything off the template character and on to an existing magic character - and better hope they remembered everything. And it costs zero dollars to spend the crown on it.
Even if the fight happens close, and the people dumping stam for magic are unable to get far enough to drop aggro, there’s always force quitting and relogging, and do the race change on their way back in.
It would even preserve them being in a group because it’s still the same character, maybe they would load in right there in the trial they are mapping in their fresh race, not even needing to travel back in.
Like I’ve said. The benefits of the template are actually a bigger impact than is commonly acknowledged.Xbox NA1 -
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✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Murkmire has been out for a bit, so I doubt you're the first.
However this is the first documented claim so...co gratulations
Btw where's the sarcasm? You achieved something and posted about it
Except fishing in Murkmire has been bugged, and therefore unobtainable, up until the latest patch.
As for the sarcasm, I guess you needed to have followed the forums for the last couple of weeks to get that one.
Oh no, I GET it...but it's a stupid point to be making, since a lot of people share their achievements here and everyone meets it with open arms. It's only endgame PvE where people get all pissy about things.
Hodor has every right to share their achievements
(Plus if fishing was bugged maybe you should have done weeks of extensive testing to report to ZOS so that it can be fixed so that it can actually be done on release, just like Hodor did)
Dude... Duuuude... 😂 Why, why, do you think all achieve shared are welcomed but the high end pve ones aren't? That's because it's not sharing, it's bragging! Hehe
Can't you see that?
Also, can't you see that this post is nothing else if not a bait for toxic/cancerous elitist apologists such as yourself? Hehe
My post will be deleted but I hope you read it first because you made me laugh a bit with your naiveness. And for that, thanks.
Have a great day, good human. It's Saturday, after all!
In time... It's a public forum, as long as you follow the rules, you ha r the right to post anything here, really. And everyone ALSO has the right to reply with their opinion, doesn't matter if they are good or bad. You post it, you handle it, right? Bragging and bashing are like hateful siblings, always chasing after each other. There's no stopping it.
(God, I love these topics. Perfect to reply when I'm bored. :P)
That's not really bragging any more than anything else is bragging.
If "I got 1000 CP! Yay me!" and "Woohoo, fishes!" is sharing, why is "Woohoo, we were the first ones to clear vBRP! Here's a picture of the skin!" bragging?
I'm really curious, what's the core difference here?
One is mindless grinding, the other is weeks of practice combined with countless bug reports to even get the content to a level where it is able to be cleared without massive bugs. Why am I a cancerous elitist apologist for saying that there is no reason to flame Hodor and bite the hands that feed you guys, but you are the white knight hero for battling those terrible endgame players who seek to ruin all of the content in the game by...completing it before everyone else?
Once again, please explain the difference. And also explain to me why I'm a cancerous elitist simply for defending people that are being attacked for being better players than others are?
The reason to scoff at hodor is the test server provides crutches.
Sure, the pc platform characters are copied over, but more useful is the template option for a new test character. Those templates come with all the goodies imaginable. A bag with all overland sets in the game, for all the possible gear slots plus all weapons, in all useful traits. A bag with the same ‘include all’ for monster sets. Trial sets - all the perfected stuff in gold. All traits researched. A transmute geode of infinite transmute stones. If something needed improvement, thousands of tempers etc are in the template bags.
And so on. Including any new gear.
Everything in the crown store costs 1crown.
So everyone can make a template character. Log in and walk naked straight into the new content, then pull the best in slot gear for any playstyle they want from their inventory. Respec Scrolls cost 1 crown, so respec skill morphs on the fly. They are handed a million gold, so respec champ points on the fly.
The strategy is simple. Walk in with 4 of each role in diff BiS gear, see which works best with the first trash group. Adjust, using the template gear. Same with the first boss - it’s hard to kill any group that has 4 tanks and 4 healers, so people have a really easy time writing down what fight mechanic happens at which time or percentage point. There is no pressure. If the first clear takes 6 hours, then each combat along every inch of the place has been mapped and measured and diagrammed and cost them NOTHING because of the infinite gear / gold / etc.
The template option grants the player all the possible rewards for perfect completion of all the content. It would be like if you had a backpack with infinite money and could pull out any object you wanted, and had all knowledge in the world downloaded into your head. Put together a team of 12 such people, each with those backpacks, and any task becomes a lot easier.
Furthermore, such backpacks in the test server allow people to avoid time wasted on costly experimentation on the live server.
That’s why the “First!” post is a tacky brag. They didn’t have the limitations of normal characters, or even of normal players. Would anyone imagine doing a race change in the middle of a boss fight to switch up the effects of their rotation? That’s a ridiculous idea for normal play, an outrageous expense of crowns that cost real money. But on the test server, it’s free money and so even the dollar costs fall away.
If they had to test with just their live characters, at least they would have to go get gear they didn’t already have rather than pull it from the magic gear bag. They wouldn’t be able to use the best new gear to beat the new content the first time.
They temporarily are granted the powers of Superman, use the powers to map a trial in near-perfect safety, and are hailed as awesome for the skill? Nah. The test server is ESO’s miniature god-mode. Let’s see how people do without such assistance.
Bro lol. You don't think they already had most of the sets they might have wanted?
It's Hodor ffs. (Btw, you can't race change in game, you have to log out. You actually have no idea what you're even talking about). They have money, they have gear, and they have experience. The conditions of the PTS basically mean nothing to them.
Next, please
Nice job ignoring 95% of the post. You should be in politics
95% of their post was the PTS is a crutch. I addressed all of it. Just because my post wasnt as long, does not mean I ignored him
Doesnt make their threads any less of a bragging tho. And before you answer with some "sharing ur achievements" nonsense, you should really check the definition of bragging.Edited by pieratsos on November 4, 2018 9:44PM1 -
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✭✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Murkmire has been out for a bit, so I doubt you're the first.
However this is the first documented claim so...co gratulations
Btw where's the sarcasm? You achieved something and posted about it
Except fishing in Murkmire has been bugged, and therefore unobtainable, up until the latest patch.
As for the sarcasm, I guess you needed to have followed the forums for the last couple of weeks to get that one.
Oh no, I GET it...but it's a stupid point to be making, since a lot of people share their achievements here and everyone meets it with open arms. It's only endgame PvE where people get all pissy about things.
Hodor has every right to share their achievements
(Plus if fishing was bugged maybe you should have done weeks of extensive testing to report to ZOS so that it can be fixed so that it can actually be done on release, just like Hodor did)
Dude... Duuuude... 😂 Why, why, do you think all achieve shared are welcomed but the high end pve ones aren't? That's because it's not sharing, it's bragging! Hehe
Can't you see that?
Also, can't you see that this post is nothing else if not a bait for toxic/cancerous elitist apologists such as yourself? Hehe
My post will be deleted but I hope you read it first because you made me laugh a bit with your naiveness. And for that, thanks.
Have a great day, good human. It's Saturday, after all!
In time... It's a public forum, as long as you follow the rules, you ha r the right to post anything here, really. And everyone ALSO has the right to reply with their opinion, doesn't matter if they are good or bad. You post it, you handle it, right? Bragging and bashing are like hateful siblings, always chasing after each other. There's no stopping it.
(God, I love these topics. Perfect to reply when I'm bored. :P)
That's not really bragging any more than anything else is bragging.
If "I got 1000 CP! Yay me!" and "Woohoo, fishes!" is sharing, why is "Woohoo, we were the first ones to clear vBRP! Here's a picture of the skin!" bragging?
I'm really curious, what's the core difference here?
One is mindless grinding, the other is weeks of practice combined with countless bug reports to even get the content to a level where it is able to be cleared without massive bugs. Why am I a cancerous elitist apologist for saying that there is no reason to flame Hodor and bite the hands that feed you guys, but you are the white knight hero for battling those terrible endgame players who seek to ruin all of the content in the game by...completing it before everyone else?
Once again, please explain the difference. And also explain to me why I'm a cancerous elitist simply for defending people that are being attacked for being better players than others are?
The reason to scoff at hodor is the test server provides crutches.
Sure, the pc platform characters are copied over, but more useful is the template option for a new test character. Those templates come with all the goodies imaginable. A bag with all overland sets in the game, for all the possible gear slots plus all weapons, in all useful traits. A bag with the same ‘include all’ for monster sets. Trial sets - all the perfected stuff in gold. All traits researched. A transmute geode of infinite transmute stones. If something needed improvement, thousands of tempers etc are in the template bags.
And so on. Including any new gear.
Everything in the crown store costs 1crown.
So everyone can make a template character. Log in and walk naked straight into the new content, then pull the best in slot gear for any playstyle they want from their inventory. Respec Scrolls cost 1 crown, so respec skill morphs on the fly. They are handed a million gold, so respec champ points on the fly.
The strategy is simple. Walk in with 4 of each role in diff BiS gear, see which works best with the first trash group. Adjust, using the template gear. Same with the first boss - it’s hard to kill any group that has 4 tanks and 4 healers, so people have a really easy time writing down what fight mechanic happens at which time or percentage point. There is no pressure. If the first clear takes 6 hours, then each combat along every inch of the place has been mapped and measured and diagrammed and cost them NOTHING because of the infinite gear / gold / etc.
The template option grants the player all the possible rewards for perfect completion of all the content. It would be like if you had a backpack with infinite money and could pull out any object you wanted, and had all knowledge in the world downloaded into your head. Put together a team of 12 such people, each with those backpacks, and any task becomes a lot easier.
Furthermore, such backpacks in the test server allow people to avoid time wasted on costly experimentation on the live server.
That’s why the “First!” post is a tacky brag. They didn’t have the limitations of normal characters, or even of normal players. Would anyone imagine doing a race change in the middle of a boss fight to switch up the effects of their rotation? That’s a ridiculous idea for normal play, an outrageous expense of crowns that cost real money. But on the test server, it’s free money and so even the dollar costs fall away.
If they had to test with just their live characters, at least they would have to go get gear they didn’t already have rather than pull it from the magic gear bag. They wouldn’t be able to use the best new gear to beat the new content the first time.
They temporarily are granted the powers of Superman, use the powers to map a trial in near-perfect safety, and are hailed as awesome for the skill? Nah. The test server is ESO’s miniature god-mode. Let’s see how people do without such assistance.
Bro lol. You don't think they already had most of the sets they might have wanted?
It's Hodor ffs. (Btw, you can't race change in game, you have to log out. You actually have no idea what you're even talking about). They have money, they have gear, and they have experience. The conditions of the PTS basically mean nothing to them.
Next, please
Nice job ignoring 95% of the post. You should be in politics
95% of their post was the PTS is a crutch. I addressed all of it. Just because my post wasnt as long, does not mean I ignored him
Doesnt make their threads any less of a bragging tho. And before you answer with some "sharing ur achievements" nonsense, you should really check the definition of bragging.
brag·ging
/ˈbraɡiNG/Submit
noun
1.
excessively proud and boastful talk about one's achievements or possessions.
The only thing excessive I see is the hate towards HodorValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake3
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