ESO not playable on Macs

Carmina

Just a warning out to everyone: Do not buy ESO if you play on a Mac. Cancel your subscriptions, do not invest anything. The game is not playable on the Mac anymore. Huge thread for this in Mac/Technical Support.

maboleth

Carmina

Doesn't"t change the fact that people do, it does not work, and ZOS does not give a ***, but tries to sit it out. Leaving your opinions aside, that is.

Alhatariel

Well, I have been playing Eso on my Mac for many years and have no problems what so ever with playing the game. I dont know how you came to your advice but it is certainly a bad sign to other Mac users towards our game. Therefor I as a happy Mac Eso player :-) No problems at all playing Eso on my Mac.

Wildberryjack

I don't play any game where I don't see issues with MACs. There are a lot of compatibility problems with games and MACs but that doesn't mean they aren't trying to make it work. It just isn't as easy to do as many think when you're making something work across vastly different platforms. Yes MAC may be PC, but, MAC is quite different from Windows. So much so it may as well be considered a different platform. Compatibility issues for all sorts of programs are why I ultimately decided against a MAC even though I kinda wanted one. Even my tablet/graphic and video editing programs don't work right with MACs.

Ostacia

I'm playing fine on a Mac. And I hope I didn't just totally jinx myself.... >.>

Chaos2088

Kiralyn2000

Yeah, the "hur hur, why u gaem on Mac?" meme was tired a decade ago.

But, still. Anyone who does game on a Mac would know that the only result of putting a Mac thread in the general section of a gaming forum is a barrage of those same tired memes from people who think they're witty. OP, what did you really expect to get out of this?

Lyserus

The witcher 3 sucks! Fallout 4 and Skyrim sucks too! GTA 5 as well! Do you know why? Their performance sucks on Mac!!

Seriously if you play big games on Mac and think it's gonna run smoothly....the problem is you

JKith

I'm playing on a Mac and everything works fine. What specifically are you encountering?

I actually have an easier time playing on my Mac than my Windows machine.

I don't like that the full screen isn't clickable and i have to go into settings to go full screen, but other than that (which is just an inconvenience) there are no issues at all.

If you're having an FPS issue, rename your Live folder to Live_Old, restart the game, (it will create a new Live folder) and then copy over your addons. Fixed the FPS issue from last patch that some Mac players were having.

Taleof2Cities

The Mac changes were announced on PTS a month and half ago (9/17).

The OP's slow reaction time isn't anyone else's fault ... especially not ZOS's.

Mavor

maboleth wrote: »

lol, THIS

Acrolas

A lot of PC players went through a similar OS transition period with Windows 10.
There was a period of about three months where I kept a Windows 7 partition to play ESO just because the initial Win10 AMD drivers made everything look kind of like a overly shiny wax museum.

You just have to manage your expectations while everything syncs up again. And unfortunately there will be some people whose system requirements are now below the minimum recommended. They will have to examine their relationship with Mac gaming and decide whether to invest in a system upgrade or consider that their stopping point for now.

Kiralyn2000

JKith wrote: »

I'm playing on a Mac and everything works fine. What specifically are you encountering?

I actually have an easier time playing on my Mac than my Windows machine.

I don't like that the full screen isn't clickable and i have to go into settings to go full screen, but other than that (which is just an inconvenience) there are no issues at all.

If you're having an FPS issue, rename your Live folder to Live_Old, restart the game, (it will create a new Live folder) and then copy over your addons. Fixed the FPS issue from last patch that some Mac players were having.

No, I suspect this is about the issue where they changed the renderer, which both upped the minimum System requirement and also knocked a bunch of older systems (whose graphics hardware can't do that renderer) completely off running the game.

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For all the "duh, gaems on Mac?¿" folks.... I'm actually kind of amazed how many of the games in my Steam PC collection, show up as available to install when I'm on my Mac. 109 games in my library, 71 of them have Mac versions. Metro Redux, Borderlands 2, Bioshock Infinite, Dead Island, Serious Sam 3, Battletech, Wasteland 2, Witcher 1 & 2, 7 Days to Die, DIRT 3, etc, etc, etc.

Yes, I can't actually run them because I have a very cheap Mac Mini, which only has Intel Iris graphics. Just like your grandma with her "I just use it for my recipes!" PC couldn't run them, either. If I'd gotten one of the Macs with a dedicated GPU, I'd have been fine.

So, yes. Games on Mac.

smacx250

The main issue is that the FPS of the Murkmire Mac client is often 1/2 to 1/4 of that of the previous client (including on new "top end" machines). Many report that decreasing the graphics settings provides little to no improvement.

In about a year from now it is expected that Apple may drop OpenGL from the OS, but ZOS decided to deliver the (broken) MoltenVK port now, with no option to continue to use OpenGL until it is fixed.

If you are using a Mac with the Murkmire client and (as some have indicated in this thread) are NOT seeing a horrible FPS decrease, it may be helpful to post your machine specs and indicate that you don't have a problem, here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/441796/fps-problem

smacx250

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

The Mac changes were announced on PTS a month and half ago (9/17).

The OP's slow reaction time isn't anyone else's fault ... especially not ZOS's.

The Mac client was pretty much unusable during most of the PTS cycle, with lots of functional and graphical bugs. These, and the FPS issue, were reported. It went live without the FPS issue being addressed.

ImmortalCX

Cant you just wipe the OS and run Windows? Or linux and run ESO under emulator?

duke_sidus

I'm playing on my old MacBook Pro. Technically it doesn't even meet the minimum system requirements, but it was running ok at medium settings. I use medium because my internet connection isn't great. Then the Murkmire patch happened, and I had to update my OSX. But, I can still play the game.

SaxonCrusader

There's something called Windows and another thing called Linux. You can build a PC that's just as, if not more powerful than any Mac will ever be and it will cost less. Pop a copy of Windows or a Linux distribution in and start enjoying a superior gaming experience.

I get that many people here who use Macs also use them for other purposes, some times for things that are more convenient or just better to do on Mac than the other OSes, which is absolutely fine. For gaming though you've really pulled the short end of the stick. I'd recommend saving up for a machine capable of gaming rather than hoping for Apple to make MacOS a viable gaming platform.

smacx250

SaxonCrusader wrote: »

There's something called Windows and another thing called Linux. You can build a PC that's just as, if not more powerful than any Mac will ever be and it will cost less. Pop a copy of Windows or a Linux distribution in and start enjoying a superior gaming experience.

I get that many people here who use Macs also use them for other purposes, some times for things that are more convenient or just better to do on Mac than the other OSes, which is absolutely fine. For gaming though you've really pulled the short end of the stick. I'd recommend saving up for a machine capable of gaming rather than hoping for Apple to make MacOS a viable gaming platform.

Mac has been a perfectly viable ESO gaming platform from launch until now. This is a ZOS business issue - to invest the resources to maintain the Mac market, or not. Talking about general gaming experiences between platforms is irrelevant.

forwardbias83

Problem with macs is they cost much more for the same specs as a non mac computer. I worked at a warehouse once that shipped products to retailers including Apple both online orders and their retail store hub that restocked stores. In one of the empty grey totes sent back to the warehouse, I came across a complaint e-mail someone had filed from one of the stores. They had spent money on an Apple Extended Care Plan or something it was called. Had problems with their laptop, took it into the retail store. The tech had no idea what they were doing. After 2+ hours, she went back home, and her 12 year old kid managed to fix the problem. Amazing Apple don't make a smart vacuum cleaner called the iVac to suck even more money out of people. Get the iVac today for $1999, and for just $199 more get a dock upgrade to charge your iPod/iPhone while vacuuming, and for only $299 more, get a 3 year extended warranty. $399 for sound isolating earphones to enjoy music from your iPod/iPhone while using the iVac. The school I went to used macs. Around 2000-2001 the high school I went to upgraded to those new colorful iMacs and all I can say is Macintrash, this is what those computers were.