Back from the Dead - What to Do?

dborgill_ESO

Greetings all. I played a few months back at original launch and bought the Morrowind DLC when it launched but didn't play much of that. Long story short, looking for a few tips.

1 - I just signed up for one month of ESO plus, mainly to unlock all DLC. When I login, I still see that I only own Morrowind. Do I need to do something different to unlock all DLC with ESO Plus?

2 - I want to start a fresh character (Sorcerer/Breton preferred) and wondering if I can choose my starting area after unlocking ESO Plus.

3 - I come from playing WoW hardcore (yes, please forgive me) so wondering if there are any general comparison or "Top 5 Things I Wish I Knew About ESO Coming from WoW" type of general tips.

4 - Are a lot of DLC level and class locked? Since I'll be starting from scratch, just curious how that works in general.

Thanks in advance!

firedrgn

If u have eso plus all dlc are unlocked. You will still see the option to buy them in the crown store.

You do have to levle what you want but everything should be available to you.

The top 5 things on my list would be.

Get started on crafting.
Level more than one toon.
Do the writs every day.
Take a few minutes and or as you play pick nodes .
Get some addons if your on pc

dborgill_ESO

firedrgn wrote: »

If u have eso plus all dlc are unlocked. You will still see the option to buy them in the crown store.

You do have to levle what you want but everything should be available to you.

The top 5 things on my list would be.

Get started on crafting.
Level more than one toon.
Do the writs every day.
Take a few minutes and or as you play pick nodes .
Get some addons if your on pc

Thanks firedrgn. And yes, I am on PC.

So was that a confirmation I can pick my starting area if I have ESO Plus? I just created a new Breton Sorcerer and it put me in Morrowind..

madchuska83

1 - DLC can be found in the Collections Menu

2 - You cannot currently choose your starting location. However, once you've completed the prologue you can travel to your faction's first main zone to start the Original Main Quest.

3 - Not a WOW player, sorry.

4 - One Tamriel unlocked Battle Leveling which basically buffs your stats to near 160CP while you level. All areas, faction zones, and DLC is accessible from the get go now. The only locked content are dungeons, which will open in the dungeon finder as you level.

MaleAmazon

1 - I just signed up for one month of ESO plus, mainly to unlock all DLC. When I login, I still see that I only own Morrowind. Do I need to do something different to unlock all DLC with ESO Plus?

You don´t unlock all DLC with ESO+, some additional content is added with ESO+ like Murkmire, but Summerset isn´t AFAIK since it´s a 'chapter' (feel free to correct me on the nomenclature). I have ESO+ and have bought the chapters so tbh I´m not sure exactly what is unlocked with ESO+.

2 - I want to start a fresh character (Sorcerer/Breton preferred) and wondering if I can choose my starting area after unlocking ESO Plus.

AFAIK you get the tutorial in Morrowind (or Summerset if you buy it), then you start the MQ by talking to the 'hooded figure' near any starting town (not newbie island but Davon´s watch and corresponding). Then you can go anywhere you want. Just join a guild and warp to players from the guild roster to quickly unlock new wayshrines if you want. I think you can even do the opposing alliances alliance quests right away, but Im not sure since I always do my actual alliance´s quests first.

- Are a lot of DLC level and class locked? Since I'll be starting from scratch, just curious how that works in general.

Nothing is class locked, some stuff is level locked but that´s mostly veteran dungeons, and they are level locked for a reason, trust me. In general you can probably get to lvl 50 and start gathering CP in a week or two, if you play during an event like the ongoing one and get some XP boosts plus play quite a lot.

Turelus

You can never choose a starting area, it's based on what expansions you have.

Base Game Only - Cold Harbour
Morrowind - Vvardenfel
Summerset - Summerset
Morrowind and Summerset - Summerset

You can go back and do old tutorials/intro quests by speaking with specific NPC's

Lisutaris

dborgill_ESO wrote: »

1 - I just signed up for one month of ESO plus, mainly to unlock all DLC. When I login, I still see that I only own Morrowind. Do I need to do something different to unlock all DLC with ESO Plus?

Not really, some stuff only shows up when you start doing it. With eso+ you should have access to it.

An example is jewelrycrafting. There is no skilltree until you visit your first crafting station or do something thats in connection with it.
But do not forget that summerset is an expansion like morrowind. So Summerset Isle(zone) or Cloudrest (trial) is not possible even with eso+.

dborgill_ESO wrote: »

2 - I want to start a fresh character (Sorcerer/Breton preferred) and wondering if I can choose my starting area after unlocking ESO Plus.

Press M for map. You have already one wayshrine unlocked (each starting zone of a faction).
There is no need but .... "hoose wisely (AD ... cough cough)
This feature is connected to the "one tamriel" update and not eso+ locked.

dborgill_ESO wrote: »

3 - I come from playing WoW hardcore (yes, please forgive me) so wondering if there are any general comparison or "Top 5 Things I Wish I Knew About ESO Coming from WoW" type of general tips.

Mhhh as you played during the realease and also played some of morrowind addon ?

Gear is still cp160 cap... and a lot of useful sets are craftable. So there is way less time investment as in wow to be able to have with the "big boys and girls".
Crown store = cash shop. But its not pay 2 win and only cosmetical and/or saves some time (research timer for crafting).
ESO+ gives you alot of benefits, i would recommend to sub ... but you are already doing it
ESO is such a big and beautiful(great) game... you should join a guild for some assistance/answers to your questions. These will not be your last ones
Google up "one tamriel" for the changes ... was a big thing

dborgill_ESO wrote: »

4 - Are a lot of DLC level and class locked? Since I'll be starting from scratch, just curious how that works in general.

Some equip is dlc/expansion locked yes. For example some trials like the new cloudrest dungeon (summerset). Trial stuff is bind on pickup .. so you don't have a chance to get your hands on it until you are buying the expansion.

BUT and here is the huge but.... even if the equip is nice and sexy.... there are enough alternatives in the standard game... with eso+ you dont have to worry. If you like the game and are enjoying it support it and unlock(buy) the other stuff


Hope i could help you.

~Lisu
May your buffs have 100% uptime

Lisutaris

sry doublepost

dborgill_ESO

THANK YOU all for the quick and detailed posts! Very helpful indeed.

Sad to see Summerset is another payment but oh well. Any others recommended purchases I need to know about beyond ESO+ and Summerset/Morrowind?

I failed to mention I liked leveling in WoW by running dungeon finder but don't remember ever using that feature in ESO. Is it similar?

Synnastix

My top 5 to do:

1) Play the class / race you have fun with, in ESO pretty much any class can tank/heal/dps unlike WoW

2) Level DB for Shadow Rider passive - it will tequire dailies and if you don’t sub or buy the dlc then you hosed. Shadow Rider and blade are both must haves for any toon.

3) Train horse daily because slow sucks

4) join a large active guild - gives you access to trade (money) and you can fast travel to other players in the guild even if you don’t have that zone open (speed)

5) Get off the forums while you’re having fun - the salt here can be a real killjoy

Or

5) steal and sell as much crap as you can daily - you have a daily limit but it’s easy money, ledgermain passives are worth it and the dye is awesome

MaleAmazon

Sad to see Summerset is another payment but oh well. Any others recommended purchases I need to know about beyond ESO+ and Summerset/Morrowind?

I bought DLC from free crowns you get with ESO+ (and a bunch I got from having subbed when you needed to sub). Like I said I don´t know, maybe they are also included with ESO+ now.

As I understand it you will get more free crowns from ESO+ now. So don´t forget about these crowns, look in 'special offers' in the crown store, you can probably get some XP scrolls or something to jumpstart you (starter pack is nice). You get more crowns every month you have ESO+.

I failed to mention I liked leveling in WoW by running dungeon finder but don't remember ever using that feature in ESO. Is it similar?

Never played WoW, but in ESO you get dungeon finder at level 10 (?). Do random normal daily for bonus XP and also you get skillpoints. A lot of people just speedrun nowadays so get a guild or something if you want to enjoy the dungeon quest (some of them are really good especially the DLC ones).

Dungeon finder is still a bit buggy but I use it. However the Damage Dealer queue is way longer than healer/tank, so learn the basics of those roles (tank if stamina character, healer if magicka is a starter) and play them in DF. Gives variation if nothing else.

5) Get off the forums while you’re having fun - the salt here can be a real killjoy

This. "The game is dying and balance is crap" is 60% of the forum threads - since the beginning. And yet, my game seems more crowded than ever despite areas having been added

Lisutaris

dborgill_ESO wrote: »

THANK YOU all for the quick and detailed posts! Very helpful indeed.

Sad to see Summerset is another payment but oh well. Any others recommended purchases I need to know about beyond ESO+ and Summerset/Morrowind?

I failed to mention I liked leveling in WoW by running dungeon finder but don't remember ever using that feature in ESO. Is it similar?

Gives alot of bonus exp. So i would recommend it.
Some are rushing through the dungeon... just ignore them and do your quest
DD have alot of waiting time. Tank/Heal just needs some seconds.

Lysette

firedrgn wrote: »

If u have eso plus all dlc are unlocked. You will still see the option to buy them in the crown store.

You do have to levle what you want but everything should be available to you.

The top 5 things on my list would be.

Get started on crafting.
Level more than one toon.
Do the writs every day.
Take a few minutes and or as you play pick nodes .
Get some addons if your on pc

The add-on suggestion is questionable though - it depends - if you want it guided and "cheaty", use add-ons, but if you want a more immersive experience and explore the world on your own, better don't use add-ons. I used some in the past, but I have dropped all of them. Especially a minimap is prone to distract you from the game world and markers for lore books and sky shards will make it a "running simulator", where you just run or ride from marker to marker - don't do that to yourself.

If you have to explore the world, you have more from it, because you will have to look carefully to find sky shards and lore books and so on, and you won't, if you do not look around carefully enough. This slows down the pace and you can really immerse yourself into the world and avoid to convert it into a running and gathering simulator.

MaleAmazon

Especially a minimap is prone to distract you from the game world and markers for lore books and sky shards will make it a "running simulator", where you just run or ride from marker to marker - don't do that to yourself.

Marker to marker running - aka 'questing in ESO'?

I actually have the opposite experience; I love the addons so I don´t have to run around and look for skyshards on my alts when I´ve already done that content. I just run marker to marker when I am on my way to a more interesting location, or just listening to something interesting on youtube... it´s not too boring then.

In Murkmire though, I don´t want the addon markers. It´s a new zone so I like to explore it. But as for the base game... meh. If I´m speedrunning for skillpoints addons are a godsend.

EDIT: Oh and the treasure map (+others) addon is great... map pins methinks it´s called. I loved the treasure maps in Skyrim.. where there were actually readable, but in ESO... 'oh, I need to find a tree next to a stone in Glenumbra. No problem!'. It is just a huge timesaver for what is actually chores.

dborgill_ESO

Thanks again all!

Since I can choose any Alliance, what impact if any, does that have on the game as a whole?

RebornV3x

Breton Sorcerer I would pick a different class especially if its your first time in ESO with the latest patch the Sorcerer class is getting beat like Rodney King with the nerfs especially if you want to PvP you would probably have a lot more fun with a Breton Nightblade or Templar in general tho since thos classes are more fleshed out.

Alliance only effects what side you are on in Cyrodill PvP THIS CANT BE CHANGED later on once you pick an Alliance your stuck so make sure that you and any friends are on the same alliance so you can PvP in Cyrodill together cause if not you'll have to make another character which I guess isn't a huge problem since you get 8 slots free.

Synnastix

RebornV3x wrote: »

Breton Sorcerer I would pick a different class especially if its your first time in ESO with the latest patch the Sorcerer class is getting beat like Rodney King with the nerfs especially if you want to PvP you would probably have a lot more fun with a Breton Nightblade or Templar in general tho since thos classes are more fleshed out.

Alliance only effects what side you are on in Cyrodill PvP THIS CANT BE CHANGED later on once you pick an Alliance your stuck so make sure that you and any friends are on the same alliance so you can PvP in Cyrodill together cause if not you'll have to make another character which I guess isn't a huge problem since you get 8 slots free.

No offense but this is why i say play what you like and stay away from the forums. FWIW I have a Dunmer sorc and have a lot of fun with it. I am probably one of the rare ones who never uses shields or pets so the Mm changes aren’t a big deal. I stack Thunderbug, Julianos, and Stormfist and just play as a lightning monster melting things along the way.

Chasing the meta will put you on an endless treadmill because it will change just about every patch.

starkerealm

RebornV3x wrote: »

Breton Sorcerer I would pick a different class especially if its your first time in ESO with the latest patch the Sorcerer class is getting beat like Rodney King with the nerfs especially if you want to PvP you would probably have a lot more fun with a Breton Nightblade or Templar in general tho since thos classes are more fleshed out.

Oh, cry me a river. The dev team took away your godmode ability, and now it's unplayable?

Really?

No. Not really.

starkerealm

dborgill_ESO wrote: »

4 - Are a lot of DLC level and class locked? Since I'll be starting from scratch, just curious how that works in general.

There's (basically) no level locked content at all.

PvP is locked at level 10. But, that's the only thing it's impossible to see sooner. You also can't run content on the harder, "veteran" difficulty until you've hit level 50. Though, the non-vet versions of content are, almost always, identical mechanically.

The groupfinder puts level thresholds on four man content, starting at level 10, except, that's only for randoming in. If you want to run a DLC dungeon at level 15, and have three friends willing to jump in with you, you can do that. That said, the Group Finder does a decent job of protecting you from bad experiences with higher difficulty dungeons when you're just starting out.

Most trial groups will require 50CP160, for all members, though that's not as true right now. It's technically possible to run this stuff at level 3, though you're not going to be contributing much at that point.

So, no, nothing's level locked.

Beyond that, there's no class locked DLC. Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild focus on stealth based characters, but any class can be played with a stealth focus, though the Nightblade does have an advantage on that front.

Otherwise, the game's designed to be as accessible as possible at any time.

EDIT: In a bit of shameless self plugging, @dborgill_ESO, you might want to check out the podcast in my signature, if you're into that.

firedrgn

dborgill_ESO wrote: »

firedrgn wrote: »

If u have eso plus all dlc are unlocked. You will still see the option to buy them in the crown store.

You do have to levle what you want but everything should be available to you.

The top 5 things on my list would be.

Get started on crafting.
Level more than one toon.
Do the writs every day.
Take a few minutes and or as you play pick nodes .
Get some addons if your on pc

Thanks firedrgn. And yes, I am on PC.

So was that a confirmation I can pick my starting area if I have ESO Plus? I just created a new Breton Sorcerer and it put me in Morrowind..

Yes you can start anywhere you want. You will need ro join a guild so u can open wayshires by porting to players in guild or ask in chat for a port tonwhere ubwant ro go.

starkerealm

jonswowgothackedub17_ESO wrote: »

5) Get off the forums while you’re having fun - the salt here can be a real killjoy

The Twitch ESO community is pretty amazing on the whole. If you're willing to filter out a lot of the tantrums, there's a lot of good people here as well, just remember to take the salt in stride.

Lysette

MaleAmazon wrote: »

Especially a minimap is prone to distract you from the game world and markers for lore books and sky shards will make it a "running simulator", where you just run or ride from marker to marker - don't do that to yourself.

Marker to marker running - aka 'questing in ESO'?

I actually have the opposite experience; I love the addons so I don´t have to run around and look for skyshards on my alts when I´ve already done that content. I just run marker to marker when I am on my way to a more interesting location, or just listening to something interesting on youtube... it´s not too boring then.

In Murkmire though, I don´t want the addon markers. It´s a new zone so I like to explore it. But as for the base game... meh. If I´m speedrunning for skillpoints addons are a godsend.

EDIT: Oh and the treasure map (+others) addon is great... map pins methinks it´s called. I loved the treasure maps in Skyrim.. where there were actually readable, but in ESO... 'oh, I need to find a tree next to a stone in Glenumbra. No problem!'. It is just a huge timesaver for what is actually chores.

Yeah, I was referring to actually playing the game for the first time - then no add-ons are the better choice. Certainly it is easier with add-ons on alts, I am still not using add-ons anymore. I might not remember the location of each and every sky shard or might forget on which character I gathered which sky shard. But I've given up on thinking like that. I don't have to get all sky shards - with add-ons i often had more skill points than i had skills to use them on. Without add-ons it is the other way round and I have an actual reason to look for sky shards - and this does not feel like a chore and when I find a new sky shard it feels like something, it is not a gathering chore, but feels like an achievement.

My point is, that these add-ons speed up some things, but at the same time they convert the game into a chore runner. Speed running is not playing the game, it is running chores - and then the game doesn't feel like a game anymore, but like work.

MaleAmazon

Since I can choose any Alliance, what impact if any, does that have on the game as a whole?

The big impact is Cyrodiil PvP since you are locked into your alliance there as mentioned above. Otherwise there is none. Minor dialogue changes in Summerset I think, stuff like that, but I am not sure if that is because of the alliance choice (AD or non-AD) or tied to Razum-Dar quests. They´ve really uncoupled everything. I advise you to do quests in the 'right' order since otherwise you run into people with dialogue implying you´ve met before when you haven´t since you skipped that part.. things like that.

My point is, that these add-ons speed up some things, but at the same time they convert the game into a chore runner. Speed running is not playing the game, it is running chores - and then the game doesn't feel like a game anymore, but like work.

Well this is true. I just don´t have a problem with it since when I speedrun I have a goal in mind (usually gathering skillpoints for a certain build) and I tend to focus on a medical lecture or a podcast or something that I have on while playing.

starkerealm

MaleAmazon wrote: »

My point is, that these add-ons speed up some things, but at the same time they convert the game into a chore runner. Speed running is not playing the game, it is running chores - and then the game doesn't feel like a game anymore, but like work.

Well this is true. I just don´t have a problem with it since when I speedrun I have a goal in mind (usually gathering skillpoints for a certain build) and I tend to focus on a medical lecture or a podcast or something that I have on while playing.

Yeah, there's a huge difference between a new player organically exploring the world, and someone who's first thought out of the tutorial is, "I need Caltrops, what's the most efficient way to get there?"

Pyr0xyrecuprotite

Re alliance, yes, no difference at all EXCEPT you are locked into that faction for Cyrodiil and IC PvP. This means you need to join an appropriate guild when you level up your PvP rank to get certain skills later on - or if you just like the PvP game.

If you have ESO Plus but not Summerset, you will probably start in Vvardenfell (it is now a DLC). It's a decent zone to level a toon, but you can get more skill points if you speak to a navigator to travel to one of the mainland zones - any of Auridon, Stonefalls, or Glenumbra. Avoid Summerset for now (don't buy it); the Psijic quest line is really best done when you have explored most of Tamriel already and have some mount speed.

Top things to do:
1. join a couple of guilds, at least one each of social, PvP, and trading if possible (max 5 total).
2. download some addons - Skyshards, Destinations, Lorebooks etc. at a bare minimum.
3. Get to level 10, do the Cyrodiil intro quest (gets you 2 skill points). L10 will also get you a mount if you don't have one.
4. Visit the stable every day and train up in speed first, then bag space, then stamina. It will take a while.
5. Remember to level up as many skills as possible while you are levelling up. At L15 you get a second weapon bar. It is useful to put new skills on the second bar and then switch to that bar before you turn in a quest. While you are doing this, try to figure out which combat skills work best for you on your main bar - but also use some of the new skills and/or weapons from time to time.
6. Follow the roads or port to guild members (right click on their name in roster, travel to player), and unlock as many wayshrines as possible. Then explore to get as many skyshards as possible.
7. Join the fighters, mage, and undaunted guilds. The first passive of the first 2 is very useful, and undaunted has some amazing passives for later on. After level 10, try to run a daily normal random dungeon if possible - gets you a lot of xp.
8. Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood DLCs are probably more useful than any other zones. These are included with ESO Plus. A crafted set of Night's Silence or a drop set (5 pieces) of Shadow Dancer gear (from guild traders) will be very useful for these two zones - AND for Murkmire. Go into an Outlaw refuge to find the initial quest givers.
9. At some point, you will need to grind some PvP to unlock Rapids and possibly some other useful Alliance War skills. If your horse is still slow, try doing a daily random Battleground. Even if you lose horribly, you will get enough Alliance Points to level up a fair bit, in the beginning.
10. Make sure to do the main quest line (starts with a mysterious figure in one of the first zone cities). You get a lot of skill points.

Sennecca

Welcome to ESO

A major difference from WOW is that crafting gear is actually useful in this game. Putting skill points into all of the crafting lines as you level can suck them up so I also agree with starting more than one toon so you can use the second or third to specialize in a specific craft(s) to allow your main to put more into the skills they want. That second or third toon may turn out to be your main at another date.

Pick up the crafting certifications quests so you can do daily writs as soon as all of your characters hit level 6. if nothing else it's extra gold when you turn them in and xp.

Watch some of the guides on you tube. a few are old, but the main topics still pretty much apply. Take advantage of the witches festival going on now and pick up the quest for the free whistle in the crown store.

If you have the dlc, get your blade of woe from the dark brotherhood. Even if you don't do the entire questline, it takes 10 minutes.

As soon as you get the invite in your mail to go to cyrodil, go do the intro quests. it's
quick skill points and gets you rapid maneuver so you can run and ride faster.

Read every bookshelf you can, your skills can get boosted from it. Every drawer, cabinet and urn may have something very valuable or useful inside.

If you pvp'd in Wow, pvp here is much different. It's a fight for territory control and resources with normal pvp and catapults and rams for taking down castle walls/doors. I usually don't like pvp because i am terrible at it, but i have a great time in cyrodil even though I'm bad at it.

Add-ons that make your life easier: Minimap, lazy writ crafter, an enchant and potion maker. awesome guild store so you can actually find things in guild stores, advanced filters will let you categorize things in your bags. all can be downloaded from minion website.

Have fun.

mreisse

A note about the intro quest to Cyrodil: with daily reward Alliance Points, you can unlock Rapid Maneover without going near cyrodil. Just accept the relevant daily reward on your baby toon et voila you have 2 skillpoints, and unlock Rapid Maneover. (Just did this on one of my mules, great use of a daily reward )

I don't know how regular questing is in WoW but in ESO you can pick up quests practically anywhere and many are quite well written/acted. Don't rush through them the first time you encounter them.

dborgill_ESO

You guys are great! I know that MOST gaming forums are salty in general so no worries there. I'm enjoying my Sorc I created but also want to try a Templar and Nightblade then decide from there.

I had a bunch of old level 1-3 characters and deleted some but then hit my delete limit

Cously

dborgill_ESO wrote: »

Greetings all. I played a few months back at original launch and bought the Morrowind DLC when it launched but didn't play much of that. Long story short, looking for a few tips.

1 - I just signed up for one month of ESO plus, mainly to unlock all DLC. When I login, I still see that I only own Morrowind. Do I need to do something different to unlock all DLC with ESO Plus?

2 - I want to start a fresh character (Sorcerer/Breton preferred) and wondering if I can choose my starting area after unlocking ESO Plus.

3 - I come from playing WoW hardcore (yes, please forgive me) so wondering if there are any general comparison or "Top 5 Things I Wish I Knew About ESO Coming from WoW" type of general tips.

4 - Are a lot of DLC level and class locked? Since I'll be starting from scratch, just curious how that works in general.

Thanks in advance!

Most of questions were answered so I leave it here as a guide for your new character, if you enjoy the story:

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Quests

I hate they start us on SS now. I think the best progression is Coldharbour tutorial, starter islands, capital, alliance, then follow the DLC in order what they were launched. It's really great to meet characters later on that you met on your previous journeys.