Making a lot of gold without ESO+, is it possible?

An_An

Is anyone here not an ESO+ member (and has never been in the past) and has 1 mil+ gold?

If you are I would be very interested in talking with you (PC NA). Can’t seem to make gold .

Kangaxx

I have 1 mil+ and no ESO+. Farm and trade motifs in Trade Guilds.

static_recharge

ESO+ only gives you +10% gold gained from monster kills and quests. It has no effect on the rest of the game. Most of the gold made by people in the 1M+ category was earned by trading like @Kangaxx said.

sedi

I make most of my gold just going around lots of guild traders and buying things cheap and selling on for a profit. An example is that some people have been finding Dremora trials and Maelstrom drops like Bows, Legs, Chests and Swords being sold cheap (under 20k) and selling on for a huge profit (over 75k). Same thing applies to rarer motifs and recipes and some new trophy parts. Some people don’t know the market and list things way too low. I have made about 400k this Witches Festival alone. Best advice would be to work about what’s in demand and sells for a lot and then go look for it at a good price in guild traders. All this takes knowledge and patience and usually joining a guild that gets a good trader and these things aren’t affected by being an ESO+ member or not. Hope this helps you.

mreisse

I just reached 1.15mil and I have no ESO+. I technically would have more but I first had to max bank and bag for 4 characters (just started the 4th but he's for extra storage and leveling horse right now) and I bought motifs from my guild stores. I don't PvP, I don't run vet/trial/dungeon, I just quest and run around enjoying the scenery, so I don't have super rare anything, but I managed:

Daily fence limit (50 for 2, 110 for 1 alt)
Daily writs (1 lvl50, 2 lvl1)
Selling alchemy flowers, ores, dust and wood
Selling extra recipes, motifs, etc

And that's pretty much it. Try to combine efforts. I don't run daily writs in Vivec because it's too convenient. I steal while crafting so I can 2 birds 1 stone the effort, particularly since the refuge is near the writ dropoff.

Well, I also got a windfall, won 70k in one guild raffle and 90k in my other guild's raffle. And of course, don't buy anything until your bag and bank is max. If you are still leveling inventory, I understand why you feel like you're not earning anything. Trust me, when you'vr maxed out inventory, suddenly you get rich

Cheezits94

I made my first million by farming alchemy plants in the Hollow City or by node farming in Upper Craglorn. It takes time, but back in the days, one Columbine was worth 400 gold, nirncrux was very valuable to..

Fishing is great too, when I went for the master angler achievement I got so many perfect roe, with them being worth 14k at that time (a bit lower now), more than a million was made by fishing alone.
Okay, that takes long too, but if you decide you want that achievement and funny title anyways.. go for that.
And yes, no ESO plus. Just empty your inventory to get all the nodes inside, not a problem. Join a good trade guild to sell those materials to other players.

An_An

static_recharge wrote: »

ESO+ only gives you +10% gold gained from monster kills and quests. It has no effect on the rest of the game. Most of the gold made by people in the 1M+ category was earned by trading like @Kangaxx said.

The lack of a crafting bag / lower bank means you need to properly organize your inventory and spread it across characters.

I normally just destroy alchemy stuff because
1. I don’t have selling slots in guild stores
2. I don’t have space on my account to keep them.
Which means I need to buy alchemy mats when crafting pots.

And yes I try to avoid getting mats on one character and transferring them through the bank onto the respective mule character. (Why? Because it is a gigantic pain). Maybe my organizing could be better though.

So yea, ESO+ doesn’t make you rich. But it sure as hell helps.

NoTimeToWait

sedi wrote: »

I make most of my gold just going around lots of guild traders and buying things cheap and selling on for a profit. An example is that some people have been finding Dremora trials and Maelstrom drops like Bows, Legs, Chests and Swords being sold cheap (under 20k) and selling on for a huge profit (over 75k). Same thing applies to rarer motifs and recipes and some new trophy parts. Some people don’t know the market and list things way too low. I have made about 400k this Witches Festival alone. Best advice would be to work about what’s in demand and sells for a lot and then go look for it at a good price in guild traders. All this takes knowledge and patience and usually joining a guild that gets a good trader and these things aren’t affected by being an ESO+ member or not. Hope this helps you.

While this is a good option, it's not solid.

AFAIK, motif farming is the best option, but if you want to farm efficiently, you need to farm vet HM dungeons in 3 or 4 DDs groups. Otherwise it would be much less efficient. So, not an option for those, who can't reach 45+k dps.

Potion making for PVP and experience pots was a very good source of money until recently. Currently, I am not sure, because of exp scrolls injection via daily login program and overall state of PVP. But this method should be viable anyway.

The guaranteed gold lies in crafting writs. Really, with multiple high crafting lvl chars you will have 500k gold per week just by doing crafting writs. You don't need ESO+ here, because lots of characters means lots of empty inventory space, but you do need to spend some crowns on char slots and some gold on storage on every char.

I agree that having a good trader makes a difference. My main account is member of 3 Craglorn guild. My friend's account is mostly Deshaan\Vvardenfell merch guild oriented. And other friend is trading in some backwater guilds (like traders in forests, thief hideouts etc). I would say, that my MM is often 10% higher than that of a Deshaan player (which means on average, things are sold 10% cheaper in Deshaan than in Craglorn). And my MM is 20-25% higher compared to backwater guild player.

VaranisArano

I have 7 million gold and no ESO+, PC/NA. Ive probably made and spent at least twice that on housing and motifs.

My advice:

Find a way to make gold that you like.

I like farming for mats. It's relaxing for me. So I have a speed running stam build with 200 inventory spaces that I farm Craglorn and other zones with, and I farm and sell raw mats, alchemy reagents and nirncrux. If I'm farming a lot, I can make roughly 1 million a week, but that is a lot of farming.

If you like fishing, my early fortune was built on perfect roe.

There's farming bosses/dolmens for set pieces, hunting and flipping deals in the guild traders, stealing and murdering, doing daily writs, and lots of ways to make money. I found the one I like and I made a lot of money.

Gargath

Dear OP, it is possible.
You just need to play a lot and be very active, trade in trading guilds with trader located in main alliance cities (some of these have fair requirements of 10k gold/weekly, no need to join those 100k elitist guilds in Craglorn), pick up every node you see, invest skill points on all your alts first into Crafting's Keen Eyes, then sell the most expensive in stacks for slightly lower than average price (with MM addon).

*You also can make a speed build with orc character for example, specifically to farm nodes in top speed without using a mount. See some builds posted on the forums (also few of mine). It would greatly help in gathering, especially as someone already mentioned above, in Coldharbour Hollow City, there is a fixed route with all the plants growing very fast, if you can farm them out of peak time, the income will be great. And the farm builds don't really need you to have the horse mount fully trained, it's all about the proper sets, skills and passives.

My ESO+ lasted in periods for about 1 year total, maybe a bit more, but it's not ESO+ which makes you rich, it's your orientation of the world, gathering and trading skills and playing time.
I have and easily keep over 1 milion now in bank, in the meantime I spent that milion few times, when I was ESO+ bought and fully equipped few nice houses: Forsaken Stronghold, Ald Velothi Harbour House, Grymharth's Woe and few others, have 14 alts fully equipped cp 940+. Not a single house or furniture was bought for crowns, all for gold, including most of the overland achievments allowing for purchase of unique furnitures. My personal achievement, available only if you play a lot, was to equip all houses with only crafted or achievements items .
It needs time, a lot of time.

Danikat

An_An wrote: »

static_recharge wrote: »

ESO+ only gives you +10% gold gained from monster kills and quests. It has no effect on the rest of the game. Most of the gold made by people in the 1M+ category was earned by trading like @Kangaxx said.

The lack of a crafting bag / lower bank means you need to properly organize your inventory and spread it across characters.

I normally just destroy alchemy stuff because
1. I don’t have selling slots in guild stores
2. I don’t have space on my account to keep them.

And yes I try to avoid getting mats on one character and transferring them through the bank onto the mule character. (Why? Because it is a gigantic pain)

So yea, ESO+ doesn’t make you rich. But it sure as hell helps.

The problem there is not having a trade guild to sell them in, not the lack of ESO+. Also you can sell alchemy ingredients to NPC merchants so you're literally throwing away gold if you delete them. Provisioning materials can't be sold to NPCs, but they're also generally not worth much to other players so those probably are safe to delete, or to just not pick up in the first place. I do sell them if I have extras, but only if I don't have anything else to fill the space with.)

I don't have ESO+ or any mules (I used to, but stopped using him a while ago) and the main ways I manage my bank/inventory space are:
1) I don't hoard everything. Each of my characters has 1 set of gear which takes up zero inventory space because they're wearing it. If balance changes mean I want a different set then I'll go and get it, rather than holding onto every set piece I ever get just in case one day it becomes useful. Likewise furnishings are either kept in a free house I'm not currently using (used to be a couple of inn rooms, now the Psyjic Villa) or sold/deleted if I don't think I'm ever going to use them.

2) I have a dedicated crafted with a fully upgraded inventory who holds most of my crafting materials. He doesn't need lots of free space because he doesn't do quests or dungeons or whatever, he only leaves town to collect material surveys and reach set crafting stations. I keep enchanting and furniture materials in the bank, along with style materials for the racial styles and purple and gold materials and rare style mats in storage chests because I only rarely need access to them. (I do have some stuff in the craft bag from times when there's been an ESO+ free trial, but I have duplicates of most of it in my inventory/bank too.)

I'm not sure ESO+ would even save me time, since I log into my crafter at least once a day to do writs and that's when I pick up materials from the bank and equipment to deconstruct/sell (he also sells stuff I'm listing on my guild trader). I suppose it would save me the few seconds it takes to deposit and collect the materials, but that's really not much time at all.

I don't have over 1 million gold, but I could have if I wanted to. The reasons I don't are I prefer to spend my time questing and exploring open-world maps which doesn't earn much and I only save until I have enough for the next thing I want, then I spend it all and start over. I haven't fully upgraded my bank yet so I buy an upgrade periodically, or I'm working on horse training for 8 characters and buying houses and furniture. At some point I'm going to start buying motifs as well. The most I've ever had at once was just under 500,000g - when I bought Mournoth Keep. At some point I'll need over 1 million because I want the Alinor Townhouse, but I haven't gotten around to that yet.

qbit

There are various tricks to getting large numbers of inventory slots for your crafting mats without eso+. But it’s a special kind of hell to manage that versus the crafting bag. So I suppose the answer would be yes, but it’s not practical.

sedi

NoTimeToWait wrote: »

sedi wrote: »

I make most of my gold just going around lots of guild traders and buying things cheap and selling on for a profit. An example is that some people have been finding Dremora trials and Maelstrom drops like Bows, Legs, Chests and Swords being sold cheap (under 20k) and selling on for a huge profit (over 75k). Same thing applies to rarer motifs and recipes and some new trophy parts. Some people don’t know the market and list things way too low. I have made about 400k this Witches Festival alone. Best advice would be to work about what’s in demand and sells for a lot and then go look for it at a good price in guild traders. All this takes knowledge and patience and usually joining a guild that gets a good trader and these things aren’t affected by being an ESO+ member or not. Hope this helps you.

While this is a good option, it's not solid.

AFAIK, motif farming is the best option, but if you want to farm efficiently, you need to farm vet HM dungeons in 3 or 4 DDs groups. Otherwise it would be much less efficient. So, not an option for those, who can't reach 45+k dps.

Potion making for PVP and experience pots was a very good source of money until recently. Currently, I am not sure, because of exp scrolls injection via daily login program and overall state of PVP. But this method should be viable anyway.

The guaranteed gold lies in crafting writs. Really, with multiple high crafting lvl chars you will have 500k gold per week just by doing crafting writs. You don't need ESO+ here, because lots of characters means lots of empty inventory space, but you do need to spend some crowns on char slots and some gold on storage on every char.

I agree that having a good trader makes a difference. My main account is member of 3 Craglorn guild. My friend's account is mostly Deshaan\Vvardenfell merch guild oriented. And other friend is trading in some backwater guilds (like traders in forests, thief hideouts etc). I would say, that my MM is often 10% higher than that of a Deshaan player (which means on average, things are sold 10% cheaper in Deshaan than in Craglorn). And my MM is 20-25% higher compared to backwater guild player.

NoTimeToWait wrote: »

sedi wrote: »

I make most of my gold just going around lots of guild traders and buying things cheap and selling on for a profit. An example is that some people have been finding Dremora trials and Maelstrom drops like Bows, Legs, Chests and Swords being sold cheap (under 20k) and selling on for a huge profit (over 75k). Same thing applies to rarer motifs and recipes and some new trophy parts. Some people don’t know the market and list things way too low. I have made about 400k this Witches Festival alone. Best advice would be to work about what’s in demand and sells for a lot and then go look for it at a good price in guild traders. All this takes knowledge and patience and usually joining a guild that gets a good trader and these things aren’t affected by being an ESO+ member or not. Hope this helps you.

While this is a good option, it's not solid.

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I agree but I don’t have time to create and level loads of characters so I do what I can with buying and selling. It’s a relatively quick way of getting gold if you know what things are worth. I think what’s important is that there are a few good ways to make gold and hopefully op can see that there are some options. 😊

fioskal

It's very possible making a lot of money without ESO+, the hardest thing is just managing space... But from writs alone I can make a good chunk of income.

Ermiq

3.4 million gold at the moment. I've owned big houses (for 1+ mil gold) in Mournhold and Bangkori, and medium house in Narsis.
I've returned in the game a month ago, I had 2.1 mil in my bank back then. So, 3.4-2.1=1.3 mil per month.
Never had ESO+ sub.

ESO+ doesn't help you to earn money. Yes, people say craft bag is something they can't live without, but, I use my bank as a craft bag, with addons I can put all resources in my bank with just one button (and I have a banker assistant so it's like I have an alternative craft bag).

I do crafting daylies on 3 charactes.
I sell herbs, leather, motifs, blueprints, zone drop set pieces, sometimes I sell furniture, some crafting voucher goods from Rolis Hlaalu.

Actually, all you need to earn quite good amount of money is 2-3 trading guilds with trader NPC and MM/TTC addon. On consoles where you have no addons is harder to earn money though.

iiYuki

Use Master Merchant and visit guild traders and sort by "Deal Range", buy everything that is ranked purple and gold in deals filter with high per day sales as well as a high profit margin (>a few thousand gold each) and resell them on your guild store.
(This is what it will look like when filtered)

Danikat

Stealing is also a decent way to make money which is accessible to absolutely anyone. You don't need a special build or any knowledge other than finding a good spot to steal (the ships in Daggerfall are a good 'beginners' area - very few NPCs, lots of containers and the Refuge is close by with an easy route to avoid the guard if you need it).

You can improve your profits by putting skill points into it, practising so you get better at stealing without being caught, and spending more time on it to find more valuable items.

You won't make the same kind of money as hardcore traders will from farming and selling rare items, but it's much easier and quicker to do.

Alinhbo_Tyaka

I do have ESO+ now but played but played without it for about my first four months (I'm going of 7 months now). While I didn't make it to 1 million gold during that time I had a few hundred thousand banked while still buying stuff like apartments in every city, other dwellings and bank/bag space. I haven't and don't belong to any guild. I would estimate that I had accumulated around 750K in gold during that time. I also have the time to play more than an hour or so per day which helped.

The way I did it and still do is via stealing and/or selling to vendors anything I don't need. Due to the 50 item non-ESO+ limit I only stole green or above. I also only leveled 2 crafts at a time which let me minimize bank and bag space for materials. When a stack would get full I would sell any excess and sell materials I had leveled past. The key was picking up everything I could then processing it to sell the excess base material. None of them alone sell for much gold but do large enough batches frequently and it adds up quickly.

Sevalaricgirl

An_An wrote: »

Is anyone here not an ESO+ member (and has never been in the past) and has 1 mil+ gold?

If you are I would be very interested in talking with you (PC NA). Can’t seem to make gold .

Pft, I'm ESO plus and I've never had a million!

ImmortalCX

An_An wrote: »

Is anyone here not an ESO+ member (and has never been in the past) and has 1 mil+ gold?

If you are I would be very interested in talking with you (PC NA). Can’t seem to make gold .

Only thing you need is to be in a good trading guild.

Get an addon called Harvest Map that shows where all the resource nodes are.

Go into the wilderness and pick up everything you see.

Profit.

There is no get rich quick scheme until you have a mil; then you can start playing the auctions.

Karmanorway

An_An wrote: »

Is anyone here not an ESO+ member (and has never been in the past) and has 1 mil+ gold?

If you are I would be very interested in talking with you (PC NA). Can’t seem to make gold .

Buy imperial City dlc, and farm Tel var. U can make a mil a day there, if u farm when ppl sleep ☺️

Kiralyn2000

An_An wrote: »

Is anyone here not an ESO+ member (and has never been in the past) and has 1 mil+ gold?

Well, no one has "never been ESO+ in the past", because even if you never subbed, you can still load up all your junk into the Craft Bag whenever they do a 'free ESO+ week'.

Which is how I've managed my inventory. There's plenty of space in my bank (210 slots) and characters (only one is a mule), in between the times that all my stockpiled crafting stuff gets shoved in the Craft Bag. Of course, I'm not storing bunches of set armor 'just in case'.

Only reason I don't have piles o' gold is because I don't do Trading.

(but even then, I had 1.4mil gold - while not ESO+ - which I promptly spent on Hunding's Palatial Hall. Haven't had more than ~500k since then, but if I sat down and did the same as before I bought the house, I could have millions. And that was just by doing writs & a bit of thievery every day on my alts.)

wolfie1.0.

ESO+ is more of a time saver and a gold saver than anything else for me. my craft bag means that i can stockpile mats easily and i dont have to farm or shop as much.

ImmortalCX

I do think that with eso+, a person will be about 30-50% richer than without. There is the 10% extra gold, but more importantly, 20% of time is wasted on inventory management without eso+, time you could be farming. And there are many items (like food) that you wont have space to loot that could be sold as stacks.