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Need help building a staircase

Itacira
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Hi ! I'm very much a beginner in in-game housing and decorating and I'm turning to you guys to accompany me in my journey.

I'd like to build a spiral wooden staircase that'd look somewhat like so :

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Any advice to achieve the result I'm seeking?
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  • Pheefs
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    You could probably recreate this with a dozen of of the smaller wall shelves...
    but! it would be tricky to space them out exactly right to make it functional.

    You might need that add-on "Essential Housing Tool" which can help you get the "steps" laid out in mathematical precision
    Good Luck!
    :)
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  • MacCait
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    You could probably create that with a barnicle post and some crate lids.. but you wont be able to walk up it.

    If you wish for one you can walk up, you could try using limestone stairs, angle them apart to create a spiral, but it would be much wider and not around a pole.

    If you just need something to walk up, I think murkmire adds a ramp ;)


    If going with crate lids, any home furnisher sells those
    Edited by MacCait on October 24, 2018 12:25PM
  • dtsharples
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    As mentioned above, the addon will space the items equally in a spiral shape that you can then adjust in height.
    However, this doesnt guarantee that you will be able to walk up the stairs in the way that you can with existing stairs in game.
    There has to be a specific angle + depth between the step for it to function.
    of course, if you just want it for a display staircase this doesn't matter at all.

    Also mentioned above, the limestone stairs could work quite nicely, they pretty much ensure that you can walk up them, but they are a little wider than the image you presented...and made of stone :)

    Also, just to note.
    Are you wanting to access that upstairs floor or just add stairs?
    if I remember correctly, there is a height limit upstairs and you cant actually 'get in' it.
    Maybe check that you can actually access that upstairs floor, if that is your plan - before stating on the staircase :)
    You can just use a rough plank or 2 to make a ramp towards it.
    Edited by dtsharples on October 24, 2018 3:21PM
  • Itacira
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    @dtsharples yeah, by the time I had built the stairs (had to update the kind of stairs I wanted to make them usable) I found out I couldn't go under the roof.

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    So much wasted space D: Much sadness.
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  • dtsharples
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    :( I thought as much.
    I think I managed to place some small chests and barrels up on that ledge, so it looked like storage space for the house, but otherwise unusable.
    You could however build something quite fantastic outside if you use your imagination, I am sure :)
  • Wildberryjack
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    I really would like for them to revisit these houses and remove those collision fields. I wanted to build up into that space as well, and for example into the domes of the Hunding's Palatial Hall too but they have collision fields stopping you from going up into the domes.
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  • Itacira
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    @DjinnRa I know, right? I'm pretty disappointed, as I was really counting on turning it into a two floors house :( regretting not going for Twin Arches a little bit. Oh well, eventually the money will add up for me to get it.
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  • Wildberryjack
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    @Itacira, if you can hold off I'd suggest saving for Sleek Creek House. It's in a perfect location, right by Rawl'kha and with an Outlaw's Refuge out the back door. The space is nice to work with, I've built a treehouse and put a platform on the roof with a curved path up made using Daedric Thrones turned upside down. The area under the house is the kitchen and the rest for crafting tables and collectibles.

    If you want to see it hit me up if you see me on and I'll add you to my friends list. You can then use the house as a free port or a quick escape. My username in game is Wildberryjack.
    Edited by Wildberryjack on October 24, 2018 6:21PM
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  • BlackSparrow
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    DjinnRa wrote: »
    I really would like for them to revisit these houses and remove those collision fields. I wanted to build up into that space as well, and for example into the domes of the Hunding's Palatial Hall too but they have collision fields stopping you from going up into the domes.

    The problem is that they're not collision fields.... they're the edge of the map. The devs have explained before that there is no way to adjust the bounds of a map like this once created.

    The devs have been a lot more aware of vertical space since we discovered unusable areas like this in the first group of houses... I was able to build a spiral ramp all the way to the top of Tel Galen, and the interior space of the Summerset villa goes all the way up to the (very high!) ceiling. But they can't reasonably go in and "fix" the map sizes of the older houses.
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  • Itacira
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    @BlackSparrow Thanks for the explanation. Very sad though. Lost possibilities!
    Meh, we'll have others :)
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  • Itacira
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    Are there any usable ladders available as furnishings ?
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  • Aurie
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    The Murkmire Ramp, Marshwood which is in the purchasing section of the Housing Editor under Structures/Platforms.

    Best I've found, and it makes good fencing too, turned on its side.
  • dtsharples
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    I very nearly bought Humblemud, but decided to save up a little and bought the slightly larger Ample Domicile instead.
    From what I can see, the inside space looks only marginally larger / taller, with all the excess room being available in the 'ample' garden :p

    I managed to build a second floor inside the house, using 2 of the limestone stairs as access, and 2 of the wide wooden planks as the floor itself.
    it's more of a mezzanine, as it doesnt cover the whole space, just over half. Plenty for a Bedroom.
    Maybe give that a try and see if you can 1) Walk under the planks 2) Walk above it without hitting that dreaded end-space.

    if I remember I will try to post a photo later this evening.
  • dtsharples
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    Downstairs, From on the stairs and upstairs (bedroom)
    Still very much a work in progress as I was waiting to see what items Murkmire brought :)
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    Edited by dtsharples on October 25, 2018 4:59PM
  • Aurie
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    The problem with the limestone stairs is that they need to be placed with a very shallow depth between the items, or you cannot climb up them.

    So unless you specifically want a curved staircase they take up too much space, and more slots than is ideal.

    They are better suited to outside both functionally and in looks.

    No offence @dtsharples...I play around with these quite a lot, but they do have their limitations.
  • dtsharples
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    That is just 2 of the staircases and you can walk up them like any other functional staircase to the second floor.
    We aren't discussing the spiral staircase any more afaik :) I think that idea was dead on arrival due to the limitations and item slots it would take to do properly.
    The above was me demonstrating how you don't need a spiral staircase to build a second layer / mezzanine in the home.
    And also that the space at the very top is non functional
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