How do you play your Warden?

mague

Davor wrote: »

Thank you. So what I wasn't seeing was it was a nature based. Oh my how did I miss this. I feel foolish now. Oh well, at least I know now.

Bosmer was mentioned twice now. Why does it make sense? I was thinking either Bosmer or Dunmer. Maybe I will do both. On PC and the other on Xbox. What would be the benefits of Bosmer? What would be the benefits of Dunmer? See I don't know how to min and max or power build so that doesn't matter. Just want to try something new but want to see why others say so.

What skills are the most fun to use? What weapons do you use and why?

Davor wrote: »

Thank you. So what I wasn't seeing was it was a nature based. Oh my how did I miss this. I feel foolish now. Oh well, at least I know now.

Bosmer was mentioned twice now. Why does it make sense? I was thinking either Bosmer or Dunmer. Maybe I will do both. On PC and the other on Xbox. What would be the benefits of Bosmer? What would be the benefits of Dunmer? See I don't know how to min and max or power build so that doesn't matter. Just want to try something new but want to see why others say so.

What skills are the most fun to use? What weapons do you use and why?

If you dont care for min-max, then try Stamina based bow and dagger. Its a nice hunter based build and you can have it with more damage or more survivability.

Fun build can be a barehanded ultimate build. Rather magicka based and works well as Long as you stay away from vet and trials and maybe dlc Dungeons.

jainiadral

I'm trying to level my Khajiit magwarden right now and I've been having the same feeling-- just can't get the feel for it. I'm at level 29 with nothing even remotely close to morphing (mostly leveled via crafting writs), have tried the whole 1h/board setup, and have switched to the bow now. The sequence the class skills unlock in doesn't feel like it has a flow.

It's a weird blend of ground target skills, stuff that doesn't have enough range, no good snares, and nothing that deals with in-your-face melee either. The bear isn't a good tank either. It obliterates things it finally attacks in no time flat, but it usually likes to stand there staring at me instead of fighting I miss my clannfear and matriarch.

Right now, I'm using (sorry, bad at skill names):

Bear ultimate
Hail of arrows
healing mushrooms
cliff racer (before morph)
ice ring trap (before morph) which also doesn't seem to do anything
ice shield (doesn't do much)

I gave up on the shalks (take too long to spawn), the ice armor (didn't seem to do anything), and I haven't figured out what to do with the netch. Right now, I'm pre-loading the mushroom healing buff and the shield before I ice ring, then start hail of arrows. Things die fairly quickly, but I do a lot of kiting. I'm guessing from the advice here that I should switch to staff. I'm bored with staves after playing for six months with my magsorc.

I only solo overland content, so build esoterica doesn't really matter as much. Is there anything that will make my warden feel fun instead of clunky aside from using a staff?

Davor

Thank you all for helping me out. Too many to name. I am only level 6 right now, but it clicked. I have died a few times because 1) I forgot to allocate my magika or staminia. 2) not use to what does what yet. Now that I put all my points in magika for now, I haven't died so fast.

Also the flowers/mushrooms don't bother me anymore. Thank you for the explanations and reasonings everyone. Greatly appreciated.

Azurya

My wardens are carry-anns nowadays
not wanted, not needed, not excelling in any special way, so why play it?????????????????

Tryxus

Azurya wrote: »

My wardens are carry-anns nowadays
not wanted, not needed, not excelling in any special way, so why play it?????????????????

For fun

neverwalk

i work mine as a nightblade with no gap closer, so as i run in unleashing cliff racers- i heard cliff racers are getting more damage added in todays patch.

TheRealPotoroo

jainiadral wrote: »

I'm trying to level my Khajiit magwarden right now and I've been having the same feeling-- just can't get the feel for it. I'm at level 29 with nothing even remotely close to morphing (mostly leveled via crafting writs), have tried the whole 1h/board setup, and have switched to the bow now. The sequence the class skills unlock in doesn't feel like it has a flow.

It's a weird blend of ground target skills, stuff that doesn't have enough range, no good snares, and nothing that deals with in-your-face melee either. The bear isn't a good tank either. It obliterates things it finally attacks in no time flat, but it usually likes to stand there staring at me instead of fighting I miss my clannfear and matriarch.

Right now, I'm using (sorry, bad at skill names):

Bear ultimate
Hail of arrows
healing mushrooms
cliff racer (before morph)
ice ring trap (before morph) which also doesn't seem to do anything
ice shield (doesn't do much)

I gave up on the shalks (take too long to spawn), the ice armor (didn't seem to do anything), and I haven't figured out what to do with the netch. Right now, I'm pre-loading the mushroom healing buff and the shield before I ice ring, then start hail of arrows. Things die fairly quickly, but I do a lot of kiting. I'm guessing from the advice here that I should switch to staff. I'm bored with staves after playing for six months with my magsorc.

I only solo overland content, so build esoterica doesn't really matter as much. Is there anything that will make my warden feel fun instead of clunky aside from using a staff?

For starters, magden should be using staves (magicka oriented), not sword/bow (stamina oriented). All attributes should be in magicka - EOS is unkind to hybrids. Use mostly light armour and jewelry with magicka buffs but for increased survivability you can go heavy chest and medium waist (this pays off in the long term). Instead of relying on crafting writs use some of the experience scrolls that the game throws at you and spend some time in delves killing stuff and you'll be morphing before you know it. Delves also tend to have skyshards so you'll get those too.

ListerJMC

I have two Wardens, an Argonian PvE tank and a magicka-based Dunmer who I made to throw cliff racers at people.

I love PvE tanking on a Warden because I really like the frost theme. It feels a bit clunky vs. my DK tank with some of the animations, but other than that it's really enjoyable to me. The class healing abilities are really useful, e.g. extra support in dungeon no-deaths, scenarios where I need to tank without a healer, or if the healer dies.

The magicka warden on the other hand I just can't get a feel for. The damage on it is lacklustre and I can't heal with it as well as I can on my Templar. I've done some pvp on it with a frost-based build which is probably the most fun I've had with it, but there are other classes I still prefer to pvp on more. He's basically bank space until I find something I enjoy doing with him unfortunately.

max_only

jainiadral wrote: »

I'm trying to level my Khajiit magwarden right now and I've been having the same feeling-- just can't get the feel for it. I'm at level 29 with nothing even remotely close to morphing (mostly leveled via crafting writs), have tried the whole 1h/board setup, and have switched to the bow now. The sequence the class skills unlock in doesn't feel like it has a flow.

It's a weird blend of ground target skills, stuff that doesn't have enough range, no good snares, and nothing that deals with in-your-face melee either. The bear isn't a good tank either. It obliterates things it finally attacks in no time flat, but it usually likes to stand there staring at me instead of fighting I miss my clannfear and matriarch.

Right now, I'm using (sorry, bad at skill names):

Bear ultimate
Hail of arrows
healing mushrooms
cliff racer (before morph)
ice ring trap (before morph) which also doesn't seem to do anything
ice shield (doesn't do much)

I gave up on the shalks (take too long to spawn), the ice armor (didn't seem to do anything), and I haven't figured out what to do with the netch. Right now, I'm pre-loading the mushroom healing buff and the shield before I ice ring, then start hail of arrows. Things die fairly quickly, but I do a lot of kiting. I'm guessing from the advice here that I should switch to staff. I'm bored with staves after playing for six months with my magsorc.

I only solo overland content, so build esoterica doesn't really matter as much. Is there anything that will make my warden feel fun instead of clunky aside from using a staff?

What you have described is a stam character. You use a bow. Also you want the morph of the bear that does *physical* damage not magic damage. The reason why you aren’t seeing results is because you think you are a magic warden when you are playing like a stamina warden. If you start focusing on stamina and physical damage then your bow and bear will be better.

I know I struggled with making a stamina character because most of the skills in the game (outside of physical weapons) are magic only, with a few morphing to stamina. Also I thought it would be difficult to manage dodging, blocking, interrupting etc AND use stamina for my spells. It didn’t make sense to me. From previous games it makes sense to use magic for spells and save stamina for blocking etc. After trying it though, it’s not so bad as I thought.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

What's a Warden?

jainiadral

Just wanted to say thanks for the ice staff idea-- it's a huge help to making the class make sense

Sevalaricgirl

I have a stam warden and a magicka warden. I use animals with both but my mag warden uses ice spells and magic and my stam mostly uses animal spells.

Wizhunter

Quite like the Stamina Warden as DW/Bow, never tried a Magicka Warden but would like to try making one. I like Dunmer because of the Fire resistance plus they look better than the Altmer. I quite like the idea of an Ice build as well, I also not a massive fan of the bear so if I roll a Magic Warden I don't think I will use the Bear as my Ultimate. Been a nice read seeing what other players thoughts on the Warden are.

Wiz

Lysette

Davor wrote: »

Thank you all for helping me out. Too many to name. I am only level 6 right now, but it clicked. I have died a few times because 1) I forgot to allocate my magika or staminia. 2) not use to what does what yet. Now that I put all my points in magika for now, I haven't died so fast.

Also the flowers/mushrooms don't bother me anymore. Thank you for the explanations and reasonings everyone. Greatly appreciated.

Don't forget about food - provisioning - and craft your gear newly every 2 levels (you will need the experience anyway, to craft higher level gear later on) - learn enchants and research gear traits. This is all stuff, which newbies normally don't recognize as important, but it really is.

ESO_Nightingale

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

What's a Warden?

Haha! its funny because its true. (in magden's case anyway's)

Asardes

Sabina says hello: Subterranean Assault - Dizzying Swing - Dawnbreaker of Smiting (optionally Reverse Slice if needed)

RedTalon

Storage mule just like my DK

Though thinking of making my next char one, want to make a lizard with a joke name

Kadoin

I use it as a mag warden. Heals in PvP, tank + heal in PvE...Soon it may be turned into a offensive hybrid though for pvp.

jainiadral

max_only wrote: »

jainiadral wrote: »

I'm trying to level my Khajiit magwarden right now and I've been having the same feeling-- just can't get the feel for it. I'm at level 29 with nothing even remotely close to morphing (mostly leveled via crafting writs), have tried the whole 1h/board setup, and have switched to the bow now. The sequence the class skills unlock in doesn't feel like it has a flow.

It's a weird blend of ground target skills, stuff that doesn't have enough range, no good snares, and nothing that deals with in-your-face melee either. The bear isn't a good tank either. It obliterates things it finally attacks in no time flat, but it usually likes to stand there staring at me instead of fighting I miss my clannfear and matriarch.

Right now, I'm using (sorry, bad at skill names):

Bear ultimate
Hail of arrows
healing mushrooms
cliff racer (before morph)
ice ring trap (before morph) which also doesn't seem to do anything
ice shield (doesn't do much)

I gave up on the shalks (take too long to spawn), the ice armor (didn't seem to do anything), and I haven't figured out what to do with the netch. Right now, I'm pre-loading the mushroom healing buff and the shield before I ice ring, then start hail of arrows. Things die fairly quickly, but I do a lot of kiting. I'm guessing from the advice here that I should switch to staff. I'm bored with staves after playing for six months with my magsorc.

I only solo overland content, so build esoterica doesn't really matter as much. Is there anything that will make my warden feel fun instead of clunky aside from using a staff?

What you have described is a stam character. You use a bow. Also you want the morph of the bear that does *physical* damage not magic damage. The reason why you aren’t seeing results is because you think you are a magic warden when you are playing like a stamina warden. If you start focusing on stamina and physical damage then your bow and bear will be better.

I know I struggled with making a stamina character because most of the skills in the game (outside of physical weapons) are magic only, with a few morphing to stamina. Also I thought it would be difficult to manage dodging, blocking, interrupting etc AND use stamina for my spells. It didn’t make sense to me. From previous games it makes sense to use magic for spells and save stamina for blocking etc. After trying it though, it’s not so bad as I thought.

I wanted to avoid making a stam character at all costs probably because I'm totally clueless about them. What I've been reading--which probably doesn't apply to me-- is you have to go into PvP to pick up caltrops for stam toons. Because there's no snare built into the classes? I have no idea. I loathe PvP in most games and would do anything to avoid it in this one

Mostly I wanted to try something different since I'd spent a long time on staves with my sorc. I had no resource issues with either stamina or magicka-- but the complete lack of CC was driving me batty until I advanced bows enough to get the knockback. That made it manageable for an evening, if not ideal. Then I gave up and tried the ice staff. Much better!

Anyway, thanks for the detailed response I'll probably have to give stam a shot on my pending nightblade if I get that far.

TheRealPotoroo wrote: »

jainiadral wrote: »

I'm trying to level my Khajiit magwarden right now and I've been having the same feeling-- just can't get the feel for it. I'm at level 29 with nothing even remotely close to morphing (mostly leveled via crafting writs), have tried the whole 1h/board setup, and have switched to the bow now. The sequence the class skills unlock in doesn't feel like it has a flow.

It's a weird blend of ground target skills, stuff that doesn't have enough range, no good snares, and nothing that deals with in-your-face melee either. The bear isn't a good tank either. It obliterates things it finally attacks in no time flat, but it usually likes to stand there staring at me instead of fighting I miss my clannfear and matriarch.

Right now, I'm using (sorry, bad at skill names):

Bear ultimate
Hail of arrows
healing mushrooms
cliff racer (before morph)
ice ring trap (before morph) which also doesn't seem to do anything
ice shield (doesn't do much)

I gave up on the shalks (take too long to spawn), the ice armor (didn't seem to do anything), and I haven't figured out what to do with the netch. Right now, I'm pre-loading the mushroom healing buff and the shield before I ice ring, then start hail of arrows. Things die fairly quickly, but I do a lot of kiting. I'm guessing from the advice here that I should switch to staff. I'm bored with staves after playing for six months with my magsorc.

I only solo overland content, so build esoterica doesn't really matter as much. Is there anything that will make my warden feel fun instead of clunky aside from using a staff?

For starters, magden should be using staves (magicka oriented), not sword/bow (stamina oriented). All attributes should be in magicka - EOS is unkind to hybrids. Use mostly light armour and jewelry with magicka buffs but for increased survivability you can go heavy chest and medium waist (this pays off in the long term). Instead of relying on crafting writs use some of the experience scrolls that the game throws at you and spend some time in delves killing stuff and you'll be morphing before you know it. Delves also tend to have skyshards so you'll get those too.

Oh, the writs thing-- I've been pre-prepping several alts so I have their horses reasonably trained when I'm ready to get to them. Might as well make a little gold with them while I'm waiting My lowest-level alt is lvl 13 now, I think. This one I started a couple of months ago while I was still finishing up Summerset and Morrowind on my first toon.

I hadn't had any resource problems-- just a lot of annoyance that the warden class itself doesn't seem to have any decent CC. Anyway, I switched to ice staff, and destro abilities are a thing of beauty. Wall of ice is insta-death

BTW, thanks for the advice

MartiniDaniels

My warden is redguard adopted by ashlanders, Ash Racer, fast and deadly. Though not so fast after last patch Probably more Ash Guar now

Bigevilpeter

Made an Argonian Warden tank and a Bosmer Stamden. Both work well RPing and actual gameplay.

I just use budding seeds on my tank to give team health buff I dont use other flower skills.

They are both super fun to play and warden tank is much more fun and I think even better than DK tank

ESO_Nightingale

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Made an Argonian Warden tank and a Bosmer Stamden. Both work well RPing and actual gameplay.

I just use budding seeds on my tank to give team health buff I dont use other flower skills.

They are both super fun to play and warden tank is much more fun and I think even better than DK tank

How is the burst heal on your tank? How much healing? Seriously? I wanna know. Because im about to get rid of polar for budding seeds.

kylewwefan

Magic Breton warden rocking Necro/Slimecraw/Willpower Asylum front/Maelstrom back. Mage Mundus. Permafrost front and back. 55k max magic. This guy tears Maelstrom up and easily gets me leaderboard rewards.


Stam Orc Warden rocking VO/Hundings Rage Mighty Chudan Maelstrom Bow. All jewelry Bloodthirsty. Another easy Leaderboard reward guy. Looks great in a pink dress

Karmanorway

I play my redguard stamden with 2h and dw, Skoria, blooddrinker, spriggans.

I like to farm Tel vars with her, but mostly other players 😏

Master_Fluff

How do I play my Warden? I left her outside the gates of The Brass Fortress sometime this summer. I'll probably let her do dome adventuring next year or so.

MooseKnuckles88

I have two dps wardens one magicka (Altmer) and one stamina (Redguard).

It really depends on your play style, I do lots of pve content on my magden, my stamden is in progress as I'm still after some gear pieces, and I plan on doing some pvp with my stamden soon too.

Since I'm on console, I'm playing my last days on my magden until I can experience nerfmire first hand and see if it's still viable for me anymore.

Ciovala

My altmer magicka warden is pretty fun to use as a healer, and I is also pretty fun as a solo DPS character. Takes more effort to do the same DPS as others, but outside of vet dlc and trials who cares. However, that said, my stamina redguard warden is much better DPS.

TheInfernalRage

Davor wrote: »

Thank you all for helping me out. Too many to name. I am only level 6 right now, but it clicked. I have died a few times because 1) I forgot to allocate my magika or staminia. 2) not use to what does what yet. Now that I put all my points in magika for now, I haven't died so fast.

Also the flowers/mushrooms don't bother me anymore. Thank you for the explanations and reasonings everyone. Greatly appreciated.

Wait, still level 6?

Experiment on skill lines in line with the role you have in mind. While leveling, you may want to be a damage dealer first and concentrate on that. Stick and stay consistent with either Magicka or Stamina and don't do both. Avoid copying builds because it can take away the fun of building your own. Experiment on what skills fit your play style. When you reach level 15, you may want to practice a full rotation of using two bars.

theskymoves

How do I play my Warden?

Alone.

DiNanna63

My main toon is a wood elf magicka warden. Her only weapon is an ice destruction staff. I use the bear but not the other skills. She wears 5 Julianos, one Destruction of mastery and one Vanus. All items are at the gold level (including her staff) except her shoes and jewellery are purple. Her equipment level is extraordinary.