Furnishing mats monopol in game right now

Jamdarius

So it came to this like I thought it would,

All main trading guilds are buying out all furnishing mats and selling them for 10-20 times more due to Psijic Home release to all players, I call it <censored> move. GM's should do something so that certain players who have 2 much gold cannot dictate prices out of their ill will because it ruins players who do not have time or know how to earn gold, some players I know already stopped thinking about furnishing their homes when they saw prices of mats ... Regulus price before frree home 4-5 gold now 30-40 a piece heartwood 10g / piece now 200... Grats you have killed last thing I enjoyed in game... If you ask me we need new ideas for trading in this game cause 1 or 2 trading empires dictate prices for everyone and it is making game not healthy. I know I am whining and taking easy way of making gold (200k + from crafting daily writs weekly and some motif sale also around 200k weekly), but for sanity sake pls do something about this so that all players can make their own homes furnished...

SpacemanSpiff1

neat. maybe i should start selling mats.

Also, you don't have to buy materials from guild stores. They figuratively grow on trees.

Alex_Lex

Why hurry?
Go and gather mats yourself or wait for some time for prices go down

therift

Thank Stendarr consoles do not have add-ons that snitch to everyone the prices and availability of items across all guild traders, making it easy to snatch up all the cheap furnishing mats as you allege.

As for a 'global sales house'... imagine how easy it would be to corner the market on furnishing mats if all you had to do was visit one trader NPC rather than hundreds.

Global sales house system would be a disaster.

VaranisArano

Which platform/server?

Also, wait a bit and the prices will die back down like they always do. Do you really need to furnish your entire house right now when you know the prices on everything will be higher than ever?

I always end up paying more than I need to when I get impatient.

richo262

Or, it is because demand is high and supply is low.
Or, it is because people are buying up all the cheap ones to use, and the only ones remaining were those that were priced high?
Or, you could just farm the mats yourself?

[snip]

[Edit to remove politics.]

Jamdarius

therift wrote: »

Thank Stendarr consoles do not have add-ons that snitch to everyone the prices and availability of items across all guild traders, making it easy to snatch up all the cheap furnishing mats as you allege.

As for a 'global sales house'... imagine how easy it would be to corner the market on furnishing mats if all you had to do was visit one trader NPC rather than hundreds.

Global sales house system would be a disaster.

The way it is right now also s8cks, some players got more than than 100m in bank and I know some who cant make 20k/week due to not being in good spots/not having trader and they cannot rival mainstream trading guilds without having income...

richo262 wrote: »

Or, it is because demand is high and supply is low.
Or, it is because people are buying up all the cheap ones to use, and the only ones remaining were those that were priced high?
Or, you could just farm the mats yourself?

[snip]

[Edit to remove politics.]

Sure with max 20h game time weekly I will have enough mats to fully furnish 700 item home in about a year I do not have time to farm the mats, I do not even do pledges, all I do is furnish one home and than going to furnish other but I guess it's 2 much to ask somebody to understand that if they are not furnishing homes themselves.

Luigi_Vampa

I've got huge stacks of these mats, time to start earning some money.

Hoolielulu

Prices will come down when the next batch of highly desirable furnishings comes out. It's all about patience. Right now I'm happy the Redoran stuff is affordable.

That calandra lacquer though. I wish it was easier to come by. God I hate dailies.

therift

Luigi_Vampa wrote: »

I've got huge stacks of these mats, time to start earning some money.

Right there with you, buddy.

VaranisArano

Jamdarius wrote: »

therift wrote: »

Thank Stendarr consoles do not have add-ons that snitch to everyone the prices and availability of items across all guild traders, making it easy to snatch up all the cheap furnishing mats as you allege.

As for a 'global sales house'... imagine how easy it would be to corner the market on furnishing mats if all you had to do was visit one trader NPC rather than hundreds.

Global sales house system would be a disaster.

The way it is right now also s8cks, some players got more than than 100m in bank and I know some who cant make 20k/week due to not being in good spots/not having trader and they cannot rival mainstream trading guilds without having income...

Uh, you know you can have 5 guilds, right? And its not hard to find a good trading guild with low dues. I'm in a decent one in Belkarth with a 5k weekly sales requirement, no dues, and my sales are fantastic.

Really, what prevents people from making lots of money is time. I've got the time to farm for raw mats and alchemy reagents, so I can easily make 20-50k a day, 100k+ if I spend even more time or get lucky on drops. I've even got a middle of nowhere trader guild, and alchemy reagents sell fine there.

I guess my point is that if you are making 20k a week, its not the fault of your trader or the auction house system. Its that you aren't getting items that sell for more than that in the time you have to play. Now, thats fine, if thats the amount of time you can put into the game. Those of us with more time are obviously doing to have more time to gather items and play the market.

My advice for players who have limited time is to farm while you quest. Invest in the alchemy Keen Eye passive and pick up every reagent you can find. Over time, that adds up, and you can sell reagents pretty easily in bulk in zone chat even if you dont have a guild.

Tan9oSuccka

The impatient will always pay more.

I fully furnished the Amaya Lake lodge about a year after Morrowind dropped. Buying up purple items for dirt cheap.

I will do the same for the Villa.

Sparr0w

Rip I routinely sell mine to the merchant

Jamdarius

VaranisArano wrote: »

Jamdarius wrote: »

therift wrote: »

Thank Stendarr consoles do not have add-ons that snitch to everyone the prices and availability of items across all guild traders, making it easy to snatch up all the cheap furnishing mats as you allege.

As for a 'global sales house'... imagine how easy it would be to corner the market on furnishing mats if all you had to do was visit one trader NPC rather than hundreds.

Global sales house system would be a disaster.

The way it is right now also s8cks, some players got more than than 100m in bank and I know some who cant make 20k/week due to not being in good spots/not having trader and they cannot rival mainstream trading guilds without having income...

Uh, you know you can have 5 guilds, right? And its not hard to find a good trading guild with low dues. I'm in a decent one in Belkarth with a 5k weekly sales requirement, no dues, and my sales are fantastic.

Really, what prevents people from making lots of money is time. I've got the time to farm for raw mats and alchemy reagents, so I can easily make 20-50k a day, 100k+ if I spend even more time or get lucky on drops. I've even got a middle of nowhere trader guild, and alchemy reagents sell fine there.

I guess my point is that if you are making 20k a week, its not the fault of your trader or the auction house system. Its that you aren't getting items that sell for more than that in the time you have to play. Now, thats fine, if thats the amount of time you can put into the game. Those of us with more time are obviously doing to have more time to gather items and play the market.

My advice for players who have limited time is to farm while you quest. Invest in the alchemy Keen Eye passive and pick up every reagent you can find. Over time, that adds up, and you can sell reagents pretty easily in bulk in zone chat even if you dont have a guild.

Shows u did not read everything I wrote from start, I never said I make 20k... Reread pls and correct mistakes you made in your post...

Also I got no active quests, done them all after 3 years of playing , yes DLC included.

Streega

therift wrote: »

Thank Stendarr consoles do not have add-ons that snitch to everyone the prices and availability of items across all guild traders, making it easy to snatch up all the cheap furnishing mats as you allege.

As for a 'global sales house'... imagine how easy it would be to corner the market on furnishing mats if all you had to do was visit one trader NPC rather than hundreds.

Global sales house system would be a disaster.

We already have global sales system, it's called TTC. And big trade guilds do snatch all potentially profitable items, not mentioning the guild traders themselves. But what can we do? Nothing, people are just greedy and will sell their mothers to earn some pixel money. I have a tonn of mats, but I will never feed the market in ESO. I prefer to give it away to my guildies.

NupidStoob

Furnishing a big house is a lot of work and takes a lot of money. People who advocate to farm the mats themselves either have way too much time or haven't tried it. Need to pick up around 5 runestones to get one mundane rune drop. Farming gold and buying even with the increased prices is still more time efficient.

Already two weeks ago people started buying all the mats and relisting them way higher as was expected. We can only blame ZoS since the furniture mat droprate in relation to how much is needed per furniture plan is really bad. If surveys would drop these mats or if furnishing plans would have lower requirements there wouldn't be a problem.

Casual players will simply stop bothering about decorating their house as it's way too time and money intensive. Maybe some will start using crowns to furnish which was ZoS's goal anyways.

Starlock

I can understand this being more of a frustration for members who do not have access to the crafting bag and have greater difficulty hoarding materials for just about everything in the game. I would be in the same boat if not for the crafting bag. Furniture materials would almost certainly be something ejected from my bank on a regular basis as a low priority item. I would have maybe a stack of each in my bank at most, which doesn't get you very far when furnishing a small house, let alone a giant one.

I've said it before, but the craft bag should be base game. But before that happens, Zenimax needs to step up its game against bots, who would be even more abusive than they are now if given a craft bag.

Lake

Farm gold and buy crowns.

Callous2208

Haven't messed with housing since I finished one about 6 months ago. Guess it's time to make money off these stacks upon stacks of furnishing mats I have!

NoTimeToWait

Jamdarius wrote: »

So it came to this like I thought it would,

All main trading guilds are buying out all furnishing mats and selling them for 10-20 times more due to Psijic Home release to all players, I call it <censored> move. GM's should do something so that certain players who have 2 much gold cannot dictate prices out of their ill will because it ruins players who do not have time or know how to earn gold, some players I know already stopped thinking about furnishing their homes when they saw prices of mats ... Regulus price before frree home 4-5 gold now 30-40 a piece heartwood 10g / piece now 200... Grats you have killed last thing I enjoyed in game... If you ask me we need new ideas for trading in this game cause 1 or 2 trading empires dictate prices for everyone and it is making game not healthy. I know I am whining and taking easy way of making gold (200k + from crafting daily writs weekly and some motif sale also around 200k weekly), but for sanity sake pls do something about this so that all players can make their own homes furnished...

Dude, you had ample time to prepare and buy all necessary resources when they were cheap. Don't blame your slowness on others.

And yes, traders are exploting the rise in demand. Like they always do. Which you could do too, because no millions required to buy stacks of mats costing 5-15g per item (some like wax or mundane rune 40-60g) when the price wasn't manipulated.
In any case, these are all cosmetics, so you basically can wait until market calms down.

I agree with you about the fact, that there is an issue that should be adressed. And the issue is not about millions of gold and traders it is about the fact that furnishing mats are quite rare and hard to find and collect even without demand.

I don't like your post, because you don't propose solution. Instead, you go into a meaningless rant.
I will do logic for you. Here some ideas that can greatly reduce the problem:
1) improving drop rates of furnishing mats
2) letting us deconstruct furnishings to obtain mats
3) adding furnishing mats to Hollowjack mystery boxes

Jameliel

therift wrote: »

Thank Stendarr consoles do not have add-ons that snitch to everyone the prices and availability of items across all guild traders, making it easy to snatch up all the cheap furnishing mats as you allege.

As for a 'global sales house'... imagine how easy it would be to corner the market on furnishing mats if all you had to do was visit one trader NPC rather than hundreds.

Global sales house system would be a disaster.

You're wrong. TTC exists now, and all major merchant-players use the search function. Keep telling yourself whatever you want to believe Professor.

VaranisArano

Jamdarius wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Jamdarius wrote: »

therift wrote: »

Thank Stendarr consoles do not have add-ons that snitch to everyone the prices and availability of items across all guild traders, making it easy to snatch up all the cheap furnishing mats as you allege.

As for a 'global sales house'... imagine how easy it would be to corner the market on furnishing mats if all you had to do was visit one trader NPC rather than hundreds.

Global sales house system would be a disaster.

The way it is right now also s8cks, some players got more than than 100m in bank and I know some who cant make 20k/week due to not being in good spots/not having trader and they cannot rival mainstream trading guilds without having income...

Uh, you know you can have 5 guilds, right? And its not hard to find a good trading guild with low dues. I'm in a decent one in Belkarth with a 5k weekly sales requirement, no dues, and my sales are fantastic.

Really, what prevents people from making lots of money is time. I've got the time to farm for raw mats and alchemy reagents, so I can easily make 20-50k a day, 100k+ if I spend even more time or get lucky on drops. I've even got a middle of nowhere trader guild, and alchemy reagents sell fine there.

I guess my point is that if you are making 20k a week, its not the fault of your trader or the auction house system. Its that you aren't getting items that sell for more than that in the time you have to play. Now, thats fine, if thats the amount of time you can put into the game. Those of us with more time are obviously doing to have more time to gather items and play the market.

My advice for players who have limited time is to farm while you quest. Invest in the alchemy Keen Eye passive and pick up every reagent you can find. Over time, that adds up, and you can sell reagents pretty easily in bulk in zone chat even if you dont have a guild.

Shows u did not read everything I wrote from start, I never said I make 20k... Reread pls and correct mistakes you made in your post...

Also I got no active quests, done them all after 3 years of playing , yes DLC included.

So take it as a general "you" referring to those players you say you know who only make 20k a week.

If the advice doesnt apply to you, personally, try not to take it personally.

DaveMoeDee

Ooooh. Gonna log on right now and dump furniture mats.

VaranisArano

NupidStoob wrote: »

Furnishing a big house is a lot of work and takes a lot of money. People who advocate to farm the mats themselves either have way too much time or haven't tried it. Need to pick up around 5 runestones to get one mundane rune drop. Farming gold and buying even with the increased prices is still more time efficient.

Already two weeks ago people started buying all the mats and relisting them way higher as was expected. We can only blame ZoS since the furniture mat droprate in relation to how much is needed per furniture plan is really bad. If surveys would drop these mats or if furnishing plans would have lower requirements there wouldn't be a problem.

Casual players will simply stop bothering about decorating their house as it's way too time and money intensive. Maybe some will start using crowns to furnish which was ZoS's goal anyways.

ZOS wants housing to be a slow process. They said so when they introduced it. Its a grind and a gold sink. Sounds to me like it's working as intended.

Jamdarius

NoTimeToWait wrote: »

Jamdarius wrote: »

So it came to this like I thought it would,

All main trading guilds are buying out all furnishing mats and selling them for 10-20 times more due to Psijic Home release to all players, I call it <censored> move. GM's should do something so that certain players who have 2 much gold cannot dictate prices out of their ill will because it ruins players who do not have time or know how to earn gold, some players I know already stopped thinking about furnishing their homes when they saw prices of mats ... Regulus price before frree home 4-5 gold now 30-40 a piece heartwood 10g / piece now 200... Grats you have killed last thing I enjoyed in game... If you ask me we need new ideas for trading in this game cause 1 or 2 trading empires dictate prices for everyone and it is making game not healthy. I know I am whining and taking easy way of making gold (200k + from crafting daily writs weekly and some motif sale also around 200k weekly), but for sanity sake pls do something about this so that all players can make their own homes furnished...

Dude, you had ample time to prepare and buy all necessary resources when they were cheap. Don't blame your slowness on others.

And yes, traders are exploting the rise in demand. Like they always do. Which you could do too, because no millions required to buy stacks of mats costing 5-15g per item (some like wax or mundane rune 40-60g) when the price wasn't manipulated.
In any case, these are all cosmetics, so you basically can wait until market calms down.

I agree with you about the fact, that there is an issue that should be adressed. And the issue is not about millions of gold and traders it is about the fact that furnishing mats are quite rare and hard to find and collect even without demand.

I don't like your post, because you don't propose solution. Instead, you go into a meaningless rant.
I will do logic for you. Here some ideas that can greatly reduce the problem:
1) improving drop rates of furnishing mats
2) letting us deconstruct furnishings to obtain mats
3) adding furnishing mats to Hollowjack mystery boxes

You do not realise how much mats is needed to furnish 700 items home, 3k mats is sinking to very few left very fast, I furnish homes 1 by 1 so far got 21 homes ... 9 furnished.

Go to link in my signature... Than show me I did not proposed any solution again. I just made it on the proper Housing topic thread.

VaranisArano wrote: »

NupidStoob wrote: »

Furnishing a big house is a lot of work and takes a lot of money. People who advocate to farm the mats themselves either have way too much time or haven't tried it. Need to pick up around 5 runestones to get one mundane rune drop. Farming gold and buying even with the increased prices is still more time efficient.

Already two weeks ago people started buying all the mats and relisting them way higher as was expected. We can only blame ZoS since the furniture mat droprate in relation to how much is needed per furniture plan is really bad. If surveys would drop these mats or if furnishing plans would have lower requirements there wouldn't be a problem.

Casual players will simply stop bothering about decorating their house as it's way too time and money intensive. Maybe some will start using crowns to furnish which was ZoS's goal anyways.

ZOS wants housing to be a slow process. They said so when they introduced it. Its a grind and a gold sink. Sounds to me like it's working as intended.

Instead of making it gold sink they made it exclusive luxury for 24/7 gold farmers.

DaveMoeDee

Jameliel wrote: »

therift wrote: »

Thank Stendarr consoles do not have add-ons that snitch to everyone the prices and availability of items across all guild traders, making it easy to snatch up all the cheap furnishing mats as you allege.

As for a 'global sales house'... imagine how easy it would be to corner the market on furnishing mats if all you had to do was visit one trader NPC rather than hundreds.

Global sales house system would be a disaster.

You're wrong. TTC exists now, and all major merchant-players use the search function. Keep telling yourself whatever you want to believe Professor.

But how does the data get in there for consoles? I assume it requires people to manually enter their listing on a web site, which most people aren't going to do, especially the ones that don't focus on selling and are likely to price low in the middle of nowhere. I would also expect a ton of already sold listings lingering.

VaranisArano

Jamdarius wrote: »

NoTimeToWait wrote: »

Jamdarius wrote: »

So it came to this like I thought it would,

All main trading guilds are buying out all furnishing mats and selling them for 10-20 times more due to Psijic Home release to all players, I call it <censored> move. GM's should do something so that certain players who have 2 much gold cannot dictate prices out of their ill will because it ruins players who do not have time or know how to earn gold, some players I know already stopped thinking about furnishing their homes when they saw prices of mats ... Regulus price before frree home 4-5 gold now 30-40 a piece heartwood 10g / piece now 200... Grats you have killed last thing I enjoyed in game... If you ask me we need new ideas for trading in this game cause 1 or 2 trading empires dictate prices for everyone and it is making game not healthy. I know I am whining and taking easy way of making gold (200k + from crafting daily writs weekly and some motif sale also around 200k weekly), but for sanity sake pls do something about this so that all players can make their own homes furnished...

Dude, you had ample time to prepare and buy all necessary resources when they were cheap. Don't blame your slowness on others.

And yes, traders are exploting the rise in demand. Like they always do. Which you could do too, because no millions required to buy stacks of mats costing 5-15g per item (some like wax or mundane rune 40-60g) when the price wasn't manipulated.
In any case, these are all cosmetics, so you basically can wait until market calms down.

I agree with you about the fact, that there is an issue that should be adressed. And the issue is not about millions of gold and traders it is about the fact that furnishing mats are quite rare and hard to find and collect even without demand.

I don't like your post, because you don't propose solution. Instead, you go into a meaningless rant.
I will do logic for you. Here some ideas that can greatly reduce the problem:
1) improving drop rates of furnishing mats
2) letting us deconstruct furnishings to obtain mats
3) adding furnishing mats to Hollowjack mystery boxes

Go to link in my signature...

I'm on mobile, so unless Im missing something, I dont see signatures. Mind posting the link in a comment?

DaveMoeDee

There is nothing wrong with the prices rising due to demand, just as there is nothing wrong with prices being low when demand was low.

Just wait. Bad time to buy. Might as well get in on the selling and buy back when it cools down.

Jamdarius

VaranisArano wrote: »

Jamdarius wrote: »

NoTimeToWait wrote: »

Jamdarius wrote: »

So it came to this like I thought it would,

All main trading guilds are buying out all furnishing mats and selling them for 10-20 times more due to Psijic Home release to all players, I call it <censored> move. GM's should do something so that certain players who have 2 much gold cannot dictate prices out of their ill will because it ruins players who do not have time or know how to earn gold, some players I know already stopped thinking about furnishing their homes when they saw prices of mats ... Regulus price before frree home 4-5 gold now 30-40 a piece heartwood 10g / piece now 200... Grats you have killed last thing I enjoyed in game... If you ask me we need new ideas for trading in this game cause 1 or 2 trading empires dictate prices for everyone and it is making game not healthy. I know I am whining and taking easy way of making gold (200k + from crafting daily writs weekly and some motif sale also around 200k weekly), but for sanity sake pls do something about this so that all players can make their own homes furnished...

Dude, you had ample time to prepare and buy all necessary resources when they were cheap. Don't blame your slowness on others.

And yes, traders are exploting the rise in demand. Like they always do. Which you could do too, because no millions required to buy stacks of mats costing 5-15g per item (some like wax or mundane rune 40-60g) when the price wasn't manipulated.
In any case, these are all cosmetics, so you basically can wait until market calms down.

I agree with you about the fact, that there is an issue that should be adressed. And the issue is not about millions of gold and traders it is about the fact that furnishing mats are quite rare and hard to find and collect even without demand.

I don't like your post, because you don't propose solution. Instead, you go into a meaningless rant.
I will do logic for you. Here some ideas that can greatly reduce the problem:
1) improving drop rates of furnishing mats
2) letting us deconstruct furnishings to obtain mats
3) adding furnishing mats to Hollowjack mystery boxes

Go to link in my signature...

I'm on mobile, so unless Im missing something, I dont see signatures. Mind posting the link in a comment?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/433893/housing-ideas-more-stuff-to-do-in-homes/p1

Here you go, might be hard to read on mobile as the ideas keep on coming (as me and friends are actually housing addicts)

EDIT: in short its the decon furnitures you do not use, same as you have posted.

firedrgn

I ita happening with all materials.

VaranisArano

Jamdarius wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Jamdarius wrote: »

NoTimeToWait wrote: »

Jamdarius wrote: »

So it came to this like I thought it would,

All main trading guilds are buying out all furnishing mats and selling them for 10-20 times more due to Psijic Home release to all players, I call it <censored> move. GM's should do something so that certain players who have 2 much gold cannot dictate prices out of their ill will because it ruins players who do not have time or know how to earn gold, some players I know already stopped thinking about furnishing their homes when they saw prices of mats ... Regulus price before frree home 4-5 gold now 30-40 a piece heartwood 10g / piece now 200... Grats you have killed last thing I enjoyed in game... If you ask me we need new ideas for trading in this game cause 1 or 2 trading empires dictate prices for everyone and it is making game not healthy. I know I am whining and taking easy way of making gold (200k + from crafting daily writs weekly and some motif sale also around 200k weekly), but for sanity sake pls do something about this so that all players can make their own homes furnished...

Dude, you had ample time to prepare and buy all necessary resources when they were cheap. Don't blame your slowness on others.

And yes, traders are exploting the rise in demand. Like they always do. Which you could do too, because no millions required to buy stacks of mats costing 5-15g per item (some like wax or mundane rune 40-60g) when the price wasn't manipulated.
In any case, these are all cosmetics, so you basically can wait until market calms down.

I agree with you about the fact, that there is an issue that should be adressed. And the issue is not about millions of gold and traders it is about the fact that furnishing mats are quite rare and hard to find and collect even without demand.

I don't like your post, because you don't propose solution. Instead, you go into a meaningless rant.
I will do logic for you. Here some ideas that can greatly reduce the problem:
1) improving drop rates of furnishing mats
2) letting us deconstruct furnishings to obtain mats
3) adding furnishing mats to Hollowjack mystery boxes

Go to link in my signature...

I'm on mobile, so unless Im missing something, I dont see signatures. Mind posting the link in a comment?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/433893/housing-ideas-more-stuff-to-do-in-homes/p1

Here you go, might be hard to read on mobile as the ideas keep on coming (as me and friends are actually housing addicts)

Thanks! The forums are usually pretty easy to read on mobile, but they don't have signatures or the dev tracker, and formatting posts is more of a pain