Trading and Crafting - Let's hear why.

Androconium

Enough with hearing about houses and nerfing. PvP, PvE, blahblahblah.

Every army has suppliers running after it to keep it going and cash in on the mayhem.
I'd like to hear from people who like to do trading. Tell us whatever you want about it.

Please takes us away from the endless nerf requests; or at least ask for trading based nerfs.

VaranisArano

I know lots of people make money flipping items on the market, but I prefer to make mine from farming mats and selling them.

The best advice I can give new players who want to farm and sell is to invest in the Keen Eye passive for Alchemy. The other Keen Eyes can wait, but those reagents are pretty easy to miss, especially that darned Mountain Flower.

kathandira

Androconium wrote: »

Enough with hearing about houses and nerfing. PvP, PvE, blahblahblah.

Every army has suppliers running after it to keep it going and cash in on the mayhem.
I'd like to hear from people who like to do trading. Tell us whatever you want about it.

Please takes us away from the endless nerf requests; or at least ask for trading based nerfs.

I don't involve myself with the player created economy.

I ask in our guild for things when needed, and I offer things the guild needs when they ask. All for free.

Money is for the real work, i'm not into that stuff in my digital escape.

El_Borracho

I don't specifically go out looking to strike it rich in ESO gold. But it is convenient to be able to buy some gear or mats when you need it. And you can get a pretty good payout for motifs. Also don't mind crafting for other people

Androconium

Androconium wrote: »

Enough with hearing about houses and nerfing. PvP, PvE, blahblahblah.

Every army has suppliers running after it to keep it going and cash in on the mayhem.
I'd like to hear from people who like to do trading. Tell us whatever you want about it.

Please takes us away from the endless nerf requests; or at least ask for trading based nerfs.

After some thought and no responses, I changed the title to include Crafting.

I have a lot of crafting skills and part of the reason that I farm (including chests) is to gather crafting materials.
With the latest housing giveaway, I wonder are people going to be looking for new furniture? Or do they make their own?

In terms of farming, I take a of couple of hours and them return to Dhalmora to process what I've collected and use the banker their there to put up saleable items in guild stores.

Nerf bankers might be a more interesting discussion?

Sylvermynx

I enjoy crafting and harvesting mats. I'm - not ever going to mess with trade guilds. I want a real open AH, and the "special treatment" of guild sellers doesn't appeal.

I've got 11 girls, and every one of them harvests mats and does crafting writs. Plenty of gold....

firedrgn

I dont have time to trade. I make enough money just picking nodes and doing craftimg writs. Whats the deal with platinum stack being cheaper than silk.

Couple a motha ago i bought 5 stacks of silk for 13k . Ya it was a gr es at deal . A stack back then was around 6k. Its basicly 10 to 14k for one stack now.

swippy

VaranisArano wrote: »

I know lots of people make money flipping items on the market, but I prefer to make mine from farming mats and selling them.

The best advice I can give new players who want to farm and sell is to invest in the Keen Eye passive for Alchemy. The other Keen Eyes can wait, but those reagents are pretty easy to miss, especially that darned Mountain Flower.

my buddy basically insisted i grab the Keen Eye for Clothier. i said i was pretty good at spotting the nodes.
"Oh yeah? Go into your crafting bag right now. How many Rubedite do you have? Now how many Ancestor Silk? Those buggers are hard to see." and he was right.

(i'm paraphrasing; he probably also called me "mate" six times during that interaction.)

therift

firedrgn wrote: »

Whats the deal with platinum stack being cheaper than silk.

Supply.
and
Demand.

Quite simple, really.

Unless your question is actually 'why does the demand for ancestor silk exceed the supply at a greater ratio than the demand for platinum exceeds the supply", then the answer is two-fold:

1) A far greater amount of ancestor silk is required to equip a character than platinum, and

2) There is a general preference for drop-set jewelry over crafted jewelry.

TheCyberDruid

Yesterday evening I got the last Welkynar motif page without using crowns or running Cloudrest. I could have used my savings, but I rather just sold some intricates, other motif pages and set items to get the Welkynar motif. Guess now I'll save some money for the Dremora motif and then there will be the Murkmire motifs...

cjhhickman39

If you’re going to farm for mats you don’t need a horse.
Go by foot when quest takes you to different areas and straight line as much as you can, this will take you off the beaten path and you will be surprised at how much you will find

Sylvermynx

cjhhickman39 wrote: »

If you’re going to farm for mats you don’t need a horse.
Go by foot when quest takes you to different areas and straight line as much as you can, this will take you off the beaten path and you will be surprised at how much you will find

True. Due to my huge ping, the mount/dismount/harvest/remount cycle works about twice for me and then bam - disconnect. So my girls just run and pick....

Androconium

therift wrote: »

firedrgn wrote: »

Whats the deal with platinum stack being cheaper than silk.

Supply.
and
Demand.

Quite simple, really.

Unless your question is actually 'why does the demand for ancestor silk exceed the supply at a greater ratio than the demand for platinum exceeds the supply", then the answer is two-fold:

1) A far greater amount of ancestor silk is required to equip a character than platinum, and

2) There is a general preference for drop-set jewelry over crafted jewelry.

People prefer light armour more.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

remove outfitting system cuz it was good on paper but in truth it ruined the need of master crafters...all you need now is someone who can make something in argonian style and that's it they can just buy the motif pages they want for outfitter and its a permanent investment where b4 they had to change gear and items to match new styles and such...crafting in eso is but a shadow of what once were.

Jayman1000

Androconium wrote: »

Enough with hearing about houses and nerfing. PvP, PvE, blahblahblah.

Every army has suppliers running after it to keep it going and cash in on the mayhem.
I'd like to hear from people who like to do trading. Tell us whatever you want about it.

Please takes us away from the endless nerf requests; or at least ask for trading based nerfs.

Well, remember how useless and invaluable worms once was? Well, with summerset the price exploded so if you had hoarded 100's of thousands of worms in the infinite crafting bag you really hit the motherlode....

Always stock up on useless crap. May someday Crawler prices will explode...

Androconium

Yeah, I tend to agree

Saucy_Jack

AS someone who knows all recipes, most styles, all traits, and all furniture plans except 14, I have to say that my services don't get used all that often, and that's with the open offer to guildies to craft stuff for free if they provide the mats. HOWEVER, as maddening and quixotic a quest as learning all the plans is, I have to say that the completionist in me has found the challenge enjoyable overall.

Jayman1000

VaranisArano wrote: »

I know lots of people make money flipping items on the market, but I prefer to make mine from farming mats and selling them.

The best advice I can give new players who want to farm and sell is to invest in the Keen Eye passive for Alchemy. The other Keen Eyes can wait, but those reagents are pretty easy to miss, especially that darned Mountain Flower.

Mountain flower is pretty worthless, almost not worth the time it takes to pick it. But yes keen eye is definately important to quickly spot flowers.

NoTimeToWait

VaranisArano wrote: »

I know lots of people make money flipping items on the market, but I prefer to make mine from farming mats and selling them.

The best advice I can give new players who want to farm and sell is to invest in the Keen Eye passive for Alchemy. The other Keen Eyes can wait, but those reagents are pretty easy to miss, especially that darned Mountain Flower.

Actually, I estimate that those who do flipping are a minority. It just doesn't provide as much profit except for some occasions (like current alinor mania). In trading, there are lots of opportunities to get 50% profits everyday, and my estimate that on average flipping returns 20% as profit, which is good, but not as good as you may get.

And instead of Keen Eye I would suggest to invest into HarvestMap mode. Anyway, with some experience, there is no need in Keen Eye, so if you want to save skill point better save it.