Any warden player that pulls 30+ k DPS?

Gulnagel

So any warden players out there that pull 30 k DPS with a somewhat easy rotation?

I'm interested in both stamina and magica setups, since I want to try something new away from healing.

So if you pull 30+ k:

1. Mag or Stam?
2. Gear
3. Skills
4. Rotation
5. Food/drink/potion


Would be appreciated to get some pointers

Gulnagel

JobooAGS wrote: »

Gulnagel wrote: »

JobooAGS wrote: »

Gulnagel wrote: »

JobooAGS wrote: »

Stam, bow/bow

Gear
Relequen and warmachine/levathian with maelstrom bow. For murkmire if no further major changes, weapon damage back bar, poison or absorb stam front bar

Skills
Front bar: sub assault, cutting dive, channeled acceleration, bull netch, bird of prey

Back bar: poison injection, endless hail, razor caltrops, flex spot, bird of prey

Use the bear ult.

Rotation: buff with channeled and netch, assume light attacks before every skill unless said otherwise

Sub, bar swap, hail caltrops, poison injection, bar swap, sub, bear, cutting dive, sub, cutting dive x2, sub, bar swap, hail, caltrops, poison injection, bar swap, sub, channeled, netch, sub, cutting dive x2, repeat.

If low on stam, replace bear, cutting dive with bear + heavy or cutting dice x2 with heavy + cutting dive

Food, I use blue max, stam+hp food, but you can use dubious cameron throne or arteaum takeaway broth.

Potion, either brutality, savagery, stam potions or flex, crit, stam potions

Edit I forgot monster set, stormfist is the popular choice, but veledrith is not bad if sustain isnt an issue

This build sounds fun, I need to change my enchant on maelstrom to weapondamage and I asume I'm going to use leviathan jewellery + leviathanbow on front bar with poison enchant and relequen as armorpieces to always get the 5 piece buff, leviathan will only give full when I'm on my front bar but I guess you spend most of the time there.

Until I get relequen I'll use hundings as substitute to run the normal raid.

My warden with this setup now without optimal gear does 22k DPS. Is that enough to farm a normal trial?

Yup, you can farm gear with 22k dps.
On this build this patch, I can get 42k on the 6M using blue food and no orbs. You'll get even higher next patch

Regarding Leviathan gear. You don't think Briarheart will be a better set? Since the buff from Briarheart carry over to the maelstrom bar and Leviathan does not?

In theory yes, but briarheart is unpredictable as to when it procs and it caps to 66% of the time (10 seconds for every 15). Since the rotation requires alot of bar swapping (especially to have a high uptime on shalks), having the set proc when you don't want to can be detrimental to your dps. I would rather have the >448 weapon damage proc on my spammable than when I am refreshing my dots or buffs, but due to how rng works that is far from ideal.

Edit:
I could run a few more tests to work out a rotation that accounts for briarheart uptimes, I just am not in favor of sets with forced cooldowns like briarheart, due to mechanics of some trials or dungeons throwing off your rotation

Edit 2:
Crit also scales better with high enough warhorn uptimes, despite more passives for weapon damage for stam

Thank you so much for your time, very helpfull. I'm 1 ring away from getting full leviathan set

jypcy

1. Mag
2. 3 willpower 2 zaan 5 infallible aether/master architect 1 master lightning 1 maelstrom inferno
3. FB: Shock clench, shalks, swarm, shield/heal, inner light, bear; BB: winter’s revenge, inner light, unstable wall, channeled acceleration, blue Betty, bear
4. Shalks > swarm > clench > shalks > bs > wall > revenge > bs > shalks > heavy attack > shalks > bs > wall > ult/netch (alternate each rotation)
5. Especially next patch you should easily be able to use blue health/mag food, but use clockwork citrus/witchmother’s potent brew if you have sustain issues. Trash magicka pots work fine since you already have the major buffs, but essence of spell power will also help your sustain.

I’ll play around with this once murkmire goes live to see if there’s room for bird of prey on both bars, but it should still be fine without. Rotation is pretty straightforward and non-intensive so it’s a fun, casual build that still puts out viable numbers. I got this from @WrathOfInnos, who can probably comment on any tweaks to/insights about the build that I left out.

You should be able to easily break 30k with this, but a light attack rotation will likely get you higher dps if that’s what you’re after.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Ill just leave these here...

Stamina 58k on 6 mil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1t8MOxSK3s

Magic 57k on 6 mil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD0Qn2edBIA

Yes, these are PTS, but if you are looking to start building, no sense in doing something outdated.

zTrok

1: Magicka

2: 5pc Master Architect/Mother's Sorrow, 5pc Necropotence/Siroria, 2pc Zaan/Skoria, vMA inferno staff back bar is helpful but not required

3: Front; Ele Weapon, Fetcher Infection, Blue Betty, Destruction Staff Ability, Inner Light, Bear

Back; Winter's Revenge, Elemental Blockade, Shield, Channeled Acceleration, Magelight/Flex Spot

Bars are going to change next patch so be warned

4: *Prebuff with Netch and Channeled Acceleration* Winter's Revenge > Blockade of Fire > SWAP > Fetcher Infection > Ele > Ele > Ele > SWAP > Blockade of Fire > SWAP > Ele > Ele > Fetcher Infection > Winter's Revenge > SWAP > Ele > Ele > Ele > SWAP > Blockade of Fire... Can go on for quite some time, will take a video if you need. This rotation is going to completely change next patch so be warned

5: Always use Witchmother's or Citrus, Blue Food is not needed on magden.

I've posted 45k solo with ele self applied with this build, @ me if you need anything else.

JobooAGS

Stam, bow/bow

Gear
Relequen and warmachine/levathian with maelstrom bow. For murkmire if no further major changes, weapon damage back bar, poison or absorb stam front bar

Skills
Front bar: sub assault, cutting dive, channeled acceleration, bull netch, bird of prey

Back bar: poison injection, endless hail, razor caltrops, flex spot, bird of prey

Use the bear ult.

Rotation: buff with channeled and netch, assume light attacks before every skill unless said otherwise

Sub, bar swap, hail caltrops, poison injection, bar swap, sub, bear, cutting dive, sub, cutting dive x2, sub, bar swap, hail, caltrops, poison injection, bar swap, sub, channeled, netch, sub, cutting dive x2, repeat.

If low on stam, replace bear, cutting dive with bear + heavy or cutting dice x2 with heavy + cutting dive

Food, I use blue max, stam+hp food, but you can use dubious cameron throne or arteaum takeaway broth.

Potion, either brutality, savagery, stam potions or flex, crit, stam potions

Edit I forgot monster set, stormfist is the popular choice, but veledrith is not bad if sustain isnt an issue

MooseKnuckles88

1. Magden, ranged.

2.I use 5pc Master Architect, 5pc Necropotence (sometimes 5pc siroria), 2 piece Skoria. I don't have the vMA inferno staff yet, and I don't use Zaan's since I'm not really a melee play style with magden.

3. FB: Fetcher infection, Ele drain, Betty netch, cliff racer/elemental weapon, inner light, bear ulti
BB: winters revenge, ele blockade, shield, lotus flower/channeled accl., inner light bear ulti

4. Too much work to write a rotation, basically buff up before fight then put down your aoes, bar swap, flies, then use your spammable until winters revenge is about to run out, bar swap aoes again, bar swap again flies, and spammable, all the while keep up your buffs and light attack between all skills.

5. I use witchmothers potent brew

I have a dw/bow stamden, but I'm making a few adjustments at the moment. it's hitting harder than my magden, but I'll post that one once I'm complete with that build.

Metafae

Make a parse, post it in chat.

Copy the text.

Edit it to say you did over 30k.

You are now OP.

Gulnagel

JobooAGS wrote: »

Stam, bow/bow

Gear
Relequen and warmachine/levathian with maelstrom bow. For murkmire if no further major changes, weapon damage back bar, poison or absorb stam front bar

Skills
Front bar: sub assault, cutting dive, channeled acceleration, bull netch, bird of prey

Back bar: poison injection, endless hail, razor caltrops, flex spot, bird of prey

Use the bear ult.

Rotation: buff with channeled and netch, assume light attacks before every skill unless said otherwise

Sub, bar swap, hail caltrops, poison injection, bar swap, sub, bear, cutting dive, sub, cutting dive x2, sub, bar swap, hail, caltrops, poison injection, bar swap, sub, channeled, netch, sub, cutting dive x2, repeat.

If low on stam, replace bear, cutting dive with bear + heavy or cutting dice x2 with heavy + cutting dive

Food, I use blue max, stam+hp food, but you can use dubious cameron throne or arteaum takeaway broth.

Potion, either brutality, savagery, stam potions or flex, crit, stam potions

Edit I forgot monster set, stormfist is the popular choice, but veledrith is not bad if sustain isnt an issue

This build sounds fun, I need to change my enchant on maelstrom to weapondamage and I asume I'm going to use leviathan jewellery + leviathanbow on front bar with poison enchant and relequen as armorpieces to always get the 5 piece buff, leviathan will only give full when I'm on my front bar but I guess you spend most of the time there.

Until I get relequen I'll use hundings as substitute to run the normal raid.

My warden with this setup now without optimal gear does 22k DPS. Is that enough to farm a normal trial?

Sparr0w

Gulnagel wrote: »

So any warden players out there that pull 30 k DPS with a somewhat easy rotation?

I'm interested in both stamina and magica setups, since I want to try something new away from healing.

So if you pull 30+ k:

1. Mag or Stam?
2. Gear
3. Skills
4. Rotation
5. Food/drink/potion


Would be appreciated to get some pointers

1. Both
2. Stam: Selenes/Relequen/Advancing | Mag: Zaan/Siro/Sorrow
3. Stam: Bird, SA, Rending, Netch, Prey, Bear | PI, Trops, Hail, Trap, Prey, Bear.
3. Mag: Bird, Netch, Fetcher, Prey, Inner, Bear | Blockade, Revenge, Shield, Prey, Accel, Bear
4. There isn't one. Try to cast some skills together e.g. Hail>Trops>PI and Fetcher>Blockade>Revenge
5. Blue food, spell/weapon power pots.

EDIT: Just adding StamDen is in a very very good spot next patch, where as magden not so much.

JobooAGS

Gulnagel wrote: »

JobooAGS wrote: »

Stam, bow/bow

Gear
Relequen and warmachine/levathian with maelstrom bow. For murkmire if no further major changes, weapon damage back bar, poison or absorb stam front bar

Skills
Front bar: sub assault, cutting dive, channeled acceleration, bull netch, bird of prey

Back bar: poison injection, endless hail, razor caltrops, flex spot, bird of prey

Use the bear ult.

Rotation: buff with channeled and netch, assume light attacks before every skill unless said otherwise

Sub, bar swap, hail caltrops, poison injection, bar swap, sub, bear, cutting dive, sub, cutting dive x2, sub, bar swap, hail, caltrops, poison injection, bar swap, sub, channeled, netch, sub, cutting dive x2, repeat.

If low on stam, replace bear, cutting dive with bear + heavy or cutting dice x2 with heavy + cutting dive

Food, I use blue max, stam+hp food, but you can use dubious cameron throne or arteaum takeaway broth.

Potion, either brutality, savagery, stam potions or flex, crit, stam potions

Edit I forgot monster set, stormfist is the popular choice, but veledrith is not bad if sustain isnt an issue

This build sounds fun, I need to change my enchant on maelstrom to weapondamage and I asume I'm going to use leviathan jewellery + leviathanbow on front bar with poison enchant and relequen as armorpieces to always get the 5 piece buff, leviathan will only give full when I'm on my front bar but I guess you spend most of the time there.

Until I get relequen I'll use hundings as substitute to run the normal raid.

My warden with this setup now without optimal gear does 22k DPS. Is that enough to farm a normal trial?

Yup, you can farm gear with 22k dps.
On this build this patch, I can get 42k on the 6M using blue food and no orbs. You'll get even higher next patch

Gulnagel

JobooAGS wrote: »

Gulnagel wrote: »

JobooAGS wrote: »

Stam, bow/bow

Gear
Relequen and warmachine/levathian with maelstrom bow. For murkmire if no further major changes, weapon damage back bar, poison or absorb stam front bar

Skills
Front bar: sub assault, cutting dive, channeled acceleration, bull netch, bird of prey

Back bar: poison injection, endless hail, razor caltrops, flex spot, bird of prey

Use the bear ult.

Rotation: buff with channeled and netch, assume light attacks before every skill unless said otherwise

Sub, bar swap, hail caltrops, poison injection, bar swap, sub, bear, cutting dive, sub, cutting dive x2, sub, bar swap, hail, caltrops, poison injection, bar swap, sub, channeled, netch, sub, cutting dive x2, repeat.

If low on stam, replace bear, cutting dive with bear + heavy or cutting dice x2 with heavy + cutting dive

Food, I use blue max, stam+hp food, but you can use dubious cameron throne or arteaum takeaway broth.

Potion, either brutality, savagery, stam potions or flex, crit, stam potions

Edit I forgot monster set, stormfist is the popular choice, but veledrith is not bad if sustain isnt an issue

This build sounds fun, I need to change my enchant on maelstrom to weapondamage and I asume I'm going to use leviathan jewellery + leviathanbow on front bar with poison enchant and relequen as armorpieces to always get the 5 piece buff, leviathan will only give full when I'm on my front bar but I guess you spend most of the time there.

Until I get relequen I'll use hundings as substitute to run the normal raid.

My warden with this setup now without optimal gear does 22k DPS. Is that enough to farm a normal trial?

Yup, you can farm gear with 22k dps.
On this build this patch, I can get 42k on the 6M using blue food and no orbs. You'll get even higher next patch

Regarding Leviathan gear. You don't think Briarheart will be a better set? Since the buff from Briarheart carry over to the maelstrom bar and Leviathan does not?

JobooAGS

Gulnagel wrote: »

JobooAGS wrote: »

Gulnagel wrote: »

JobooAGS wrote: »

Stam, bow/bow

Gear
Relequen and warmachine/levathian with maelstrom bow. For murkmire if no further major changes, weapon damage back bar, poison or absorb stam front bar

Skills
Front bar: sub assault, cutting dive, channeled acceleration, bull netch, bird of prey

Back bar: poison injection, endless hail, razor caltrops, flex spot, bird of prey

Use the bear ult.

Rotation: buff with channeled and netch, assume light attacks before every skill unless said otherwise

Sub, bar swap, hail caltrops, poison injection, bar swap, sub, bear, cutting dive, sub, cutting dive x2, sub, bar swap, hail, caltrops, poison injection, bar swap, sub, channeled, netch, sub, cutting dive x2, repeat.

If low on stam, replace bear, cutting dive with bear + heavy or cutting dice x2 with heavy + cutting dive

Food, I use blue max, stam+hp food, but you can use dubious cameron throne or arteaum takeaway broth.

Potion, either brutality, savagery, stam potions or flex, crit, stam potions

Edit I forgot monster set, stormfist is the popular choice, but veledrith is not bad if sustain isnt an issue

This build sounds fun, I need to change my enchant on maelstrom to weapondamage and I asume I'm going to use leviathan jewellery + leviathanbow on front bar with poison enchant and relequen as armorpieces to always get the 5 piece buff, leviathan will only give full when I'm on my front bar but I guess you spend most of the time there.

Until I get relequen I'll use hundings as substitute to run the normal raid.

My warden with this setup now without optimal gear does 22k DPS. Is that enough to farm a normal trial?

Yup, you can farm gear with 22k dps.
On this build this patch, I can get 42k on the 6M using blue food and no orbs. You'll get even higher next patch

Regarding Leviathan gear. You don't think Briarheart will be a better set? Since the buff from Briarheart carry over to the maelstrom bar and Leviathan does not?

In theory yes, but briarheart is unpredictable as to when it procs and it caps to 66% of the time (10 seconds for every 15). Since the rotation requires alot of bar swapping (especially to have a high uptime on shalks), having the set proc when you don't want to can be detrimental to your dps. I would rather have the >448 weapon damage proc on my spammable than when I am refreshing my dots or buffs, but due to how rng works that is far from ideal.

Edit:
I could run a few more tests to work out a rotation that accounts for briarheart uptimes, I just am not in favor of sets with forced cooldowns like briarheart, due to mechanics of some trials or dungeons throwing off your rotation

Edit 2:
Crit also scales better with high enough warhorn uptimes, despite more passives for weapon damage for stam