Bosmer Warden Healer?

alefry93

Yes, I know that playing as Wood elf magicka is not a great idea, but I like the Bosmer lore related to nature, so I'd like play it as Warden Healer, so I have to ask you, will I have any problem with end game? Can I do it using the right sets, recipes and attributes?

Sparr0w

Healers and tanks the race isn't a massive issue, unlike dds. So you should be fine with all endgame content. @Tasear had a woodelf sorc healer if I'm not mistaken.

Just pick 2 sets:

• Olorime
• SPC
• Worm
• Mending
• Infal
• Sanctuary
• Jorvuulds
• There are others but these are the main ones I see ^

Monster set:

• Bodgan
• Earthgore
• Rkugamz
• There are others but these are the main ones I see ^

Run witchmothers for sustain, put a couple points into health (or run a health glyph) and everything else into magicka and you should be good to go.

Tasear

I did and it worked really well. There's skills like bone surge that can be used with extra stamina and regain. There's also the immunity from posion and disease secondary effects along with occasion usage of the fall damage pasdive saving your life and thus others.

Ilsabet

Wardens have the option of being effective stamina-based healers, so you might consider that if you're willing to switch up your approach from the standard. Here's a suggested build, although the gear recommendations don't take into account two-handed weapons counting as 2 items.

AcadianPaladin

I play only Bosmers. Bow/bow stamsorc, magplar healer, magblade dps, magsorc dps. I wouldn't let a strong race preference deter you. As mentioned, the small penalty is even less for healer or tank. I would never change from Bosmer and I do prefer magic. My bow/bow stamsorc, though a 'good' race, is no better than my Bosmer mages. Though not a huge deal, the magic Bosmer's ability to better block/dodgeroll/interrupt when needed does come in handy.

There are plenty of players who don't really care about race except how it supports their build - and that is fine. I'm simply saying that if you have a strong bond with a race, the penalty is small.

alefry93

Thank you guys, I really wanted to play my first healer so I thought it would be nice to make my life harder using a stamina race
What is your advice to make up for the lack of magicka regen in the early game? When I'll play my first pledge I'd like to keep my team alive.

Prabooo

pledgin… on vet... people will be hard on you for roleplaying... I am not bashing you, just be prepared...

Ilsabet

alefry93 wrote: »

What is your advice to make up for the lack of magicka regen in the early game? When I'll play my first pledge I'd like to keep my team alive.

I think the gear sets, glyphs, and food/drink you use will make a big difference there. I recently started a (magicka) warden healer, and the first random normal I did I was pretty much heavy-attacking after every skill to keep from running out of magicka. I made her some Seducer/Julianos gear with mag regen jewelry glyphs, and since then I don't even have to look at my magicka bar. I've also been using Orzorga's Red Frothgar, which is probably overkill but it's what I have.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Not an issue. In PVP especially, you can never have enough stam regen. In PVE, the only role that really needs to be min/maxed from a race perspective is DPS, and that is really only true if pushing score. You seem to understand why its not an ideal choice, which allows you to build around it.

alefry93

Prabooo wrote: »

pledgin… on vet... people will be hard on you for roleplaying... I am not bashing you, just be prepared...

I know my friend, I know, I already play as dd and tank, soI know what have a well-balanced team means.
For this reason I ask you if I can make it work, I don't want be a problem for my team.

AcadianPaladin

My Bosmer magplar healer is my main. As far as mag sustain, she's got 1700. All three jewelry pieces are mag recovery. She also wears Seducer'sx5. She normally slots Elemental Drain. As a Templar, her final element of sustain is Channeled Focus. I believe Warden has a netch or something to help feed you magicka. She has no problem sustaining magicka.

There are choices to be made. Mag sustain is very important. After that, she pushes spell damage since it boosts both heals and damage. And, of course, she specs what she can for actual magicka. What is 'missing' on her to help allow all that is spell crit; she ignores it for higher priorities and would rather have solid reliable heals than worrying about chasing a high crit (like my magsorc and magblade do). Lol.

Maura_Neysa

I would actually recommend the Hybrid Healer build. Warden are the only ones that can pull it off.
But Echoing Vigor and Soothing are your primary heals. You still back bar a Resto so you can run Combat Prayer and Orbs.
I dont know about end content, but I've used my BowDen as the Healer in Vet 4-Man quiet easily. And FengRush has a Hybrid Warden Healer he has been running recently

Maura_Neysa

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

I would actually recommend the Hybrid Healer build. Warden are the only ones that can pull it off.
But Echoing Vigor and Soothing are your primary heals. You still back bar a Resto so you can run Combat Prayer and Orbs.
I dont know about end content, but I've used my BowDen as the Healer in Vet 4-Man quiet easily. And FengRush has a Hybrid Warden Healer he has been running recently

My DK Healer was a Bosmer for a long time. I did rerole to Altmer when getting into vet trials. Mostly because it was just to much to convince people that both Bosmer and DK

Sparr0w

Witchmothers & a regen glyph you'll be fine. Next patch especially due to netch changes.

Starting off run Juli/seducer for recovery and damage/crit (both effect heals), then transition to typical healer setup, the sustain shouldn't really be noticeable & since you're over healing 90% of the time anyway neither will the the max magicka loss.

Vanos444

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

My Bosmer magplar healer is my main. As far as mag sustain, she's got 1700. All three jewelry pieces are mag recovery. She also wears Seducer'sx5. She normally slots Elemental Drain. As a Templar, her final element of sustain is Channeled Focus. I believe Warden has a netch or something to help feed you magicka. She has no problem sustaining magicka.

There are choices to be made. Mag sustain is very important. After that, she pushes spell damage since it boosts both heals and damage. And, of course, she specs what she can for actual magicka. What is 'missing' on her to help allow all that is spell crit; she ignores it for higher priorities and would rather have solid reliable heals than worrying about chasing a high crit (like my magsorc and magblade do). Lol.

@AcadianPaladin
So, what are your action bar slot setup.
I just converted my stamplar bosmer to healplar and I have equipped her with
Healer habit: rings,neck, head and shoulder.( All spell damage)
Crafty Alfiq X 5
Torug: weapons

I plan on using seducer X 5 to replace crafty alfiq, and 1 heavy on cheast. For survivability and sustain.

Currently doing normal to get the feel of it...

Deathlord92

To heck with meta I have 4 different stamblades but my main is a Breton stamblade much same reason as you I love the lore and race besides from role play perspective my Breton part nord. And I even have a YouTube channel I still do very well in solo pvp 👍

AcadianPaladin

@Vanos444 Bear in mind that I'm a very non-meta 'Pug healer'. That is, I do run a Bosmer for RP reasons, want to do a lot of solo and when grouping, I want to be comfortable dealing with fake tanks, fake dps and groupies with no positional awareness/discipline. So that drives my slotting:

Destro (shock) bar:
EleDrain for debuff/mag steal.
Wall for off balance/dps.
Shards for resource help/dps.
Reflective Light for minor sorcery/dps.
Sweeps for self survival and dps.

Resto bar:
Ext Ritual for purge and large HoT.
Channeled Focus for sustain/defense.
Radiating Regen for group HoT.
Illustrious healing for targeted semi-burst/HoT.
Combat Prayer for a weak burst heal and group buffs.

Ult: Mages Guild ult on both bars for passives, simplicity and some dps.

Notes:
1. You'll note a lack of big burst heal. There just is not room so I'm currently running the above set up and relying on the smaller bursts plus Earthgore for big burst. If it does not work out, I'll drop Prayer (not that helpful with the disorganized groups I heal for) and slot Ritual of Rebirth.
2. I consider Major Sorcery essential but don't have space to slot Entropy and refuse to suck potions. So I run Rattlecage for Major Sorcery (along with Seducer for sustain and Earthgore for burst healing).

Please note also that my choices work well for me as a pug healer that does a lot of solo and insists on running a Bosmer for roleplay reasons. I also have no interest in DLC group dungeons because I consider the mechanics there to be silly and not fun. I also avoid trials since I've no interest in herding cats with a group of 12. Other players can and will make very different choices to support their own needs.

FakeFox

It really depends on how far you want to take it in endgame PvE. For the majority of content it really doesn't matter as healers are very flexible in their stat balance and sustain is generally a non issue. However if you are aiming for absolute high end progresion (highscores and triple achievements), you will run into problems. Warden already has some of the better stamina sustain, so additional one is not really needed. The primary build focus usually is a really good spellpower and magicka sustain balance, because at some point in progression you want to max out your healing power and DPS. Warden less so then other classes, but it therefore can struggle more with magicka sustain when running high support main healer builds.