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Focused Aim vs Lethal Arrow
Zeromaz
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Does Focused Aim itself get the benefit from the reduced armor or is it applied to the follow-up attacks only?
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Does Focused Aim itself get the benefit from the reduced armor or is it applied to the follow-up attacks only?
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
I believe it does; haven't tested myself but have read it does
Automaton buffs focused over lethal
Um higher Tooltip for ganking I think
Dunno about bombard etc
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If you use a set like automato then focused.
But if not the defile on lethal is too strong to not use.PS4 EU DC
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Koolio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »If you use a set like automato then focused.
But if not the defile on lethal is too strong to not use.
Swamp Raider is the Automaton set for lethal arrow and poison injection0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »If you use a set like automato then focused.
But if not the defile on lethal is too strong to not use.
Swamp Raider is the Automaton set for lethal arrow and poison injection
I suppose but most snipe builds are for just sniping/ gank.
And swamp raider is a bad set for that.
It's better to go auto and get a proper snipe gank with the fighter guild crossbow as well, it's around 40k tooltip dmg in 1 gcd.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Does Focused Aim itself get the benefit from the reduced armor or is it applied to the follow-up attacks only?
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
The white column effect appears before you hit them, so it's likely applied on "cast", before the projectile travel time.0 -
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✭✭Sorcs and warden also have increase physical dmg. Since focused aim lower the armor of the target, the other players will also hit harder on the target.PC, EU server, Ebonheart Pact
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ShadowProc✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »If you use a set like automato then focused.
But if not the defile on lethal is too strong to not use.
Swamp Raider is the Automaton set for lethal arrow and poison injection
I suppose but most snipe builds are for just sniping/ gank.
And swamp raider is a bad set for that.
It's better to go auto and get a proper snipe gank with the fighter guild crossbow as well, it's around 40k tooltip dmg in 1 gcd.
Can confirm you are wrong. I am wrecking dudes with swamp raider.0 -
rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ShadowProc wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »If you use a set like automato then focused.
But if not the defile on lethal is too strong to not use.
Swamp Raider is the Automaton set for lethal arrow and poison injection
I suppose but most snipe builds are for just sniping/ gank.
And swamp raider is a bad set for that.
It's better to go auto and get a proper snipe gank with the fighter guild crossbow as well, it's around 40k tooltip dmg in 1 gcd.
Can confirm you are wrong. I am wrecking dudes with swamp raider.
It's a good set if all you do is snipe/poison injection.
If you have to heal or melee the 5 set doesn't apply at all.
That's the only problem with it, I'm not condemning choices though.0 -
Xeniph✭✭✭✭✭Does Focused Aim itself get the benefit from the reduced armor or is it applied to the follow-up attacks only?
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
1. Yes, the Focused Aim applying the fracture utilizes the debuff.
2. No, the distance buff only applies to DD abilities. ( Magnum/Draining/Injection/Snipe)
Now it can be a bit complicated to answer the final question. Could be gear set available, playstyle or preference.
Personally I take Focused Aim on my bow gank build because it's quite a bit more burst. On a true gank build ( A build that tries to one global a target) The healing debuff of Lethal is not needed, as the goal is to ensure your target can't break the stun before they die, let alone cast a heal.
So, take Lethal if you want to spam it in keep defenses, BG's or with other players. Take Focused if you solo and want the most burst possible from a bow build.
That's an over simplification but hope it at least sheds some light for you.Here since Beta.
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Zeromaz✭✭✭✭This is all great info. How much extra damage on the burst with Focused Aim’s debuff would you say you get? I know Lethal Arrow applies a poisoned dot but can’t acid spray and poison inject also apply the poisoned status effect as well? Or is this something different than what i think it is?Edited by Zeromaz on October 2, 2018 6:47PM0
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rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Does Focused Aim itself get the benefit from the reduced armor or is it applied to the follow-up attacks only?
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
Personally I take Focused Aim on my bow gank build because it's quite a bit more burst. On a true gank build ( A build that tries to one global a target) The healing debuff of Lethal is not needed, as the goal is to ensure your target can't break the stun before they die, let alone cast a heal.
The only problem with that is that the white column effect that it applies is quite noticeable and a large warning to a target they are about to be sniped. Many people use lethal because it doesn't have that warning.
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Metemsycosis✭✭✭✭On one build (18k health hawks eye/bp/selenes) i use focus because if my opponent doesn't have the range i do I will land hard shots, and know 100 percent they cannot return fire.
On another build (27k health 20k max magicka/ way of fire/sloads, bloodspawn) i use lethal arrow because the 100 percent uptime on defile makes all my free damage truly dangerous.Terethea Magdalena, Breton Nightblade
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Koolio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »ShadowProc wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »If you use a set like automato then focused.
But if not the defile on lethal is too strong to not use.
Swamp Raider is the Automaton set for lethal arrow and poison injection
I suppose but most snipe builds are for just sniping/ gank.
And swamp raider is a bad set for that.
It's better to go auto and get a proper snipe gank with the fighter guild crossbow as well, it's around 40k tooltip dmg in 1 gcd.
Can confirm you are wrong. I am wrecking dudes with swamp raider.
It's a good set if all you do is snipe/poison injection.
If you have to heal or melee the 5 set doesn't apply at all.
That's the only problem with it, I'm not condemning choices though.
I personally see it as if you are in Melee or having to heal on a snipe blade your doing it wrong lol
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rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »ShadowProc wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »If you use a set like automato then focused.
But if not the defile on lethal is too strong to not use.
Swamp Raider is the Automaton set for lethal arrow and poison injection
I suppose but most snipe builds are for just sniping/ gank.
And swamp raider is a bad set for that.
It's better to go auto and get a proper snipe gank with the fighter guild crossbow as well, it's around 40k tooltip dmg in 1 gcd.
Can confirm you are wrong. I am wrecking dudes with swamp raider.
It's a good set if all you do is snipe/poison injection.
If you have to heal or melee the 5 set doesn't apply at all.
That's the only problem with it, I'm not condemning choices though.
I personally see it as if you are in Melee or having to heal on a snipe blade your doing it wrong lol
Personally, I find that if you don't have melee attacks on your bars as a stamblade you're really playing a hide and snipe build. But, play as you choose... it's just hard to do anything else if you limit your options too much. You can do both, you do have to make hard decisions over your bar loadouts though.0 -
Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Swamp raider + sheer venom + Sellistrix or Slimecraw or stormfirst or Thurvokun is great for a bowtard
Even on my Stamward i use swampraider+viper+selene or velidreth٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
Toc de Malsvi✭✭✭✭✭
✭One of the reasons NBs might want to go with Focused Aim, is that the Poison status effect has a dot which can and has prevented them from staying cloaked. I don't know if this is still an issue anymore but I know it was at one time.Legendary Archer of ValenwoodBosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Templar's are evil..0 -
Zeromaz✭✭✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »One of the reasons NBs might want to go with Focused Aim, is that the Poison status effect has a dot which can and has prevented them from staying cloaked. I don't know if this is still an issue anymore but I know it was at one time.
This has been fixed. However, acid spay has not been fixed yet
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DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »One of the reasons NBs might want to go with Focused Aim, is that the Poison status effect has a dot which can and has prevented them from staying cloaked. I don't know if this is still an issue anymore but I know it was at one time.
Cloak works fine, but it prevents sneaking (gotta wait 5s after last DoT tick before you can go into sneak again).
You get around 1k'ish "burst" from the Poisoned status effect (first two ticks~ I'd consider burst) where as Focused Aim is worth 1,994% dmg (1320 penetration).
For 1,994% dmg to be worth more than the 1k'ish damage from Poisoned, you'd need to be dealing 50k burst damage.
In short, Lethal is better for burst (except vs argonians/bosmer who don't get poisoned...), but Focused Aim doesn't get you stuck in combat.3 -
Zeromaz✭✭✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »One of the reasons NBs might want to go with Focused Aim, is that the Poison status effect has a dot which can and has prevented them from staying cloaked. I don't know if this is still an issue anymore but I know it was at one time.
Cloak works fine, but it prevents sneaking (gotta wait 5s after last DoT tick before you can go into sneak again).
You get around 1k'ish "burst" from the Poisoned status effect (first two ticks~ I'd consider burst) where as Focused Aim is worth 1,994% dmg (1320 penetration).
For 1,994% dmg to be worth more than the 1k'ish damage from Poisoned, you'd need to be dealing 50k burst damage.
In short, Lethal is better for burst (except vs argonians/bosmer who don't get poisoned...), but Focused Aim doesn't get you stuck in combat.
Even when the poison is %100 chance on Lethal Arrow? I had some dingdong with a poor attitude tell me yesterday it does dot Bosmer. He probably got worked over in a BG i was in with him because he was VERY sour towards me. Pro sportsmanship0 -
Toc de Malsvi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »One of the reasons NBs might want to go with Focused Aim, is that the Poison status effect has a dot which can and has prevented them from staying cloaked. I don't know if this is still an issue anymore but I know it was at one time.
Cloak works fine, but it prevents sneaking (gotta wait 5s after last DoT tick before you can go into sneak again).
You get around 1k'ish "burst" from the Poisoned status effect (first two ticks~ I'd consider burst) where as Focused Aim is worth 1,994% dmg (1320 penetration).
For 1,994% dmg to be worth more than the 1k'ish damage from Poisoned, you'd need to be dealing 50k burst damage.
In short, Lethal is better for burst (except vs argonians/bosmer who don't get poisoned...), but Focused Aim doesn't get you stuck in combat.
Even when the poison is %100 chance on Lethal Arrow? I had some dingdong with a poor attitude tell me yesterday it does dot Bosmer. He probably got worked over in a BG i was in with him because he was VERY sour towards me. Pro sportsmanship
The defile affects Bosmer/Argonian, the status effect does not. Unless of course they didn't put skill points into their racial passive.Legendary Archer of ValenwoodBosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Templar's are evil..3 -
Xeniph✭✭✭✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »Does Focused Aim itself get the benefit from the reduced armor or is it applied to the follow-up attacks only?
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
Personally I take Focused Aim on my bow gank build because it's quite a bit more burst. On a true gank build ( A build that tries to one global a target) The healing debuff of Lethal is not needed, as the goal is to ensure your target can't break the stun before they die, let alone cast a heal.
The only problem with that is that the white column effect that it applies is quite noticeable and a large warning to a target they are about to be sniped. Many people use lethal because it doesn't have that warning.
No warning involved
For that column to show the shot has to land, which if done properly is far too late.Here since Beta.
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rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »Does Focused Aim itself get the benefit from the reduced armor or is it applied to the follow-up attacks only?
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
Personally I take Focused Aim on my bow gank build because it's quite a bit more burst. On a true gank build ( A build that tries to one global a target) The healing debuff of Lethal is not needed, as the goal is to ensure your target can't break the stun before they die, let alone cast a heal.
The only problem with that is that the white column effect that it applies is quite noticeable and a large warning to a target they are about to be sniped. Many people use lethal because it doesn't have that warning.
No warning involved
For that column to show the shot has to land, which if done properly is far too late.
It's not too late for the second shot, lol.This is all great info. How much extra damage on the burst with Focused Aim’s debuff would you say you get? I know Lethal Arrow applies a poisoned dot but can’t acid spray and poison inject also apply the poisoned status effect as well? Or is this something different than what i think it is?
Lethal Arrow applies the status effect *poisoned* which does poison damage over time. It's not a lot of damage, but it's not avoidable and you would be surprised at how many people I see die from the poisoned effect. Pretty sure it can't be dodged, blocked either...1 -
Toc de Malsvi✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is all great info. How much extra damage on the burst with Focused Aim’s debuff would you say you get? I know Lethal Arrow applies a poisoned dot but can’t acid spray and poison inject also apply the poisoned status effect as well? Or is this something different than what i think it is?
Yes, Acid Spray and Poison Injection can apply the status effect. Any poison damage has a small chance of applying the status effect. Lethal Arrow will guarantee the status effect.
However, if you have poison resistance you are not affected by the status effect. Bosmer and Argonian have this as part of their racial passives. Other races can get it through resistance enchants on jewelry. Though generally resistance to specific effects is not considered worthwhile as a jewelry slot enchant.Legendary Archer of ValenwoodBosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Templar's are evil..0 -
Danksta✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »ShadowProc wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »If you use a set like automato then focused.
But if not the defile on lethal is too strong to not use.
Swamp Raider is the Automaton set for lethal arrow and poison injection
I suppose but most snipe builds are for just sniping/ gank.
And swamp raider is a bad set for that.
It's better to go auto and get a proper snipe gank with the fighter guild crossbow as well, it's around 40k tooltip dmg in 1 gcd.
Can confirm you are wrong. I am wrecking dudes with swamp raider.
It's a good set if all you do is snipe/poison injection.
If you have to heal or melee the 5 set doesn't apply at all.
That's the only problem with it, I'm not condemning choices though.
Would also affect your incap and bow proc. Not sure if that makes it worth it tho.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA0 -
Xeniph✭✭✭✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »Does Focused Aim itself get the benefit from the reduced armor or is it applied to the follow-up attacks only?
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
Personally I take Focused Aim on my bow gank build because it's quite a bit more burst. On a true gank build ( A build that tries to one global a target) The healing debuff of Lethal is not needed, as the goal is to ensure your target can't break the stun before they die, let alone cast a heal.
The only problem with that is that the white column effect that it applies is quite noticeable and a large warning to a target they are about to be sniped. Many people use lethal because it doesn't have that warning.
No warning involved
For that column to show the shot has to land, which if done properly is far too late.
It's not too late for the second shot, lol.This is all great info. How much extra damage on the burst with Focused Aim’s debuff would you say you get? I know Lethal Arrow applies a poisoned dot but can’t acid spray and poison inject also apply the poisoned status effect as well? Or is this something different than what i think it is?
Lethal Arrow applies the status effect *poisoned* which does poison damage over time. It's not a lot of damage, but it's not avoidable and you would be surprised at how many people I see die from the poisoned effect. Pretty sure it can't be dodged, blocked either...
If you are continually sniping your target you are either safe, or bad. In a combo you snipeX2 LA+your shoice of instant ranged ability + Cloak & Profit.
As you can see, with that combo, the second snipe lands during the stun, with little to no chance to break before it lands, thus "alerting" your target with the column is moot.
Now if you are some bad player running around spamming the ability, you could have a point. However out of STEALTH, snipe has a whistle anyway, it even does it in cloak. So the impact of the column is moot either way.Here since Beta.
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »Does Focused Aim itself get the benefit from the reduced armor or is it applied to the follow-up attacks only?
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
Personally I take Focused Aim on my bow gank build because it's quite a bit more burst. On a true gank build ( A build that tries to one global a target) The healing debuff of Lethal is not needed, as the goal is to ensure your target can't break the stun before they die, let alone cast a heal.
The only problem with that is that the white column effect that it applies is quite noticeable and a large warning to a target they are about to be sniped. Many people use lethal because it doesn't have that warning.
No warning involved
For that column to show the shot has to land, which if done properly is far too late.
It's not too late for the second shot, lol.This is all great info. How much extra damage on the burst with Focused Aim’s debuff would you say you get? I know Lethal Arrow applies a poisoned dot but can’t acid spray and poison inject also apply the poisoned status effect as well? Or is this something different than what i think it is?
Lethal Arrow applies the status effect *poisoned* which does poison damage over time. It's not a lot of damage, but it's not avoidable and you would be surprised at how many people I see die from the poisoned effect. Pretty sure it can't be dodged, blocked either...
If you are continually sniping your target you are either safe, or bad. In a combo you snipeX2 LA+your shoice of instant ranged ability + Cloak & Profit.
As you can see, with that combo, the second snipe lands during the stun, with little to no chance to break before it lands, thus "alerting" your target with the column is moot.
Now if you are some bad player running around spamming the ability, you could have a point. However out of STEALTH, snipe has a whistle anyway, it even does it in cloak. So the impact of the column is moot either way.
Should have an audible que.... Should....
And an animation....
And lower your health when landing.... Not 5 seconds later0 -
Xeniph✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »Does Focused Aim itself get the benefit from the reduced armor or is it applied to the follow-up attacks only?
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
Personally I take Focused Aim on my bow gank build because it's quite a bit more burst. On a true gank build ( A build that tries to one global a target) The healing debuff of Lethal is not needed, as the goal is to ensure your target can't break the stun before they die, let alone cast a heal.
The only problem with that is that the white column effect that it applies is quite noticeable and a large warning to a target they are about to be sniped. Many people use lethal because it doesn't have that warning.
No warning involved
For that column to show the shot has to land, which if done properly is far too late.
It's not too late for the second shot, lol.This is all great info. How much extra damage on the burst with Focused Aim’s debuff would you say you get? I know Lethal Arrow applies a poisoned dot but can’t acid spray and poison inject also apply the poisoned status effect as well? Or is this something different than what i think it is?
Lethal Arrow applies the status effect *poisoned* which does poison damage over time. It's not a lot of damage, but it's not avoidable and you would be surprised at how many people I see die from the poisoned effect. Pretty sure it can't be dodged, blocked either...
If you are continually sniping your target you are either safe, or bad. In a combo you snipeX2 LA+your shoice of instant ranged ability + Cloak & Profit.
As you can see, with that combo, the second snipe lands during the stun, with little to no chance to break before it lands, thus "alerting" your target with the column is moot.
Now if you are some bad player running around spamming the ability, you could have a point. However out of STEALTH, snipe has a whistle anyway, it even does it in cloak. So the impact of the column is moot either way.
Should have an audible que.... Should....
And an animation....
And lower your health when landing.... Not 5 seconds later
The audible queue is there when casted from any state but STEALTH. Which is once per engagement. Also you can blame the servers for the slow health bar reaction. At least that's the only time I see it happen to me.
If you really pay attention, you will notice the debuffs and dots being applied to your toon about .5 seconds before any actual damage lands. This is your first window to react. And this applies to all abilities, not just the ranged ones.Here since Beta.
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »Does Focused Aim itself get the benefit from the reduced armor or is it applied to the follow-up attacks only?
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
Personally I take Focused Aim on my bow gank build because it's quite a bit more burst. On a true gank build ( A build that tries to one global a target) The healing debuff of Lethal is not needed, as the goal is to ensure your target can't break the stun before they die, let alone cast a heal.
The only problem with that is that the white column effect that it applies is quite noticeable and a large warning to a target they are about to be sniped. Many people use lethal because it doesn't have that warning.
No warning involved
For that column to show the shot has to land, which if done properly is far too late.
It's not too late for the second shot, lol.This is all great info. How much extra damage on the burst with Focused Aim’s debuff would you say you get? I know Lethal Arrow applies a poisoned dot but can’t acid spray and poison inject also apply the poisoned status effect as well? Or is this something different than what i think it is?
Lethal Arrow applies the status effect *poisoned* which does poison damage over time. It's not a lot of damage, but it's not avoidable and you would be surprised at how many people I see die from the poisoned effect. Pretty sure it can't be dodged, blocked either...
If you are continually sniping your target you are either safe, or bad. In a combo you snipeX2 LA+your shoice of instant ranged ability + Cloak & Profit.
As you can see, with that combo, the second snipe lands during the stun, with little to no chance to break before it lands, thus "alerting" your target with the column is moot.
Now if you are some bad player running around spamming the ability, you could have a point. However out of STEALTH, snipe has a whistle anyway, it even does it in cloak. So the impact of the column is moot either way.
Should have an audible que.... Should....
And an animation....
And lower your health when landing.... Not 5 seconds later
The audible queue is there when casted from any state but STEALTH. Which is once per engagement. Also you can blame the servers for the slow health bar reaction. At least that's the only time I see it happen to me.
If you really pay attention, you will notice the debuffs and dots being applied to your toon about .5 seconds before any actual damage lands. This is your first window to react. And this applies to all abilities, not just the ranged ones.
Debuff tracker on console shows debuffs after damage occurs.
I don't blame servers because it only occurs with lethal arrow. I have many clips of the desync.
I even have a clip where I go from nearly full health, then resource bars and skills lock up, (indication of death + lethal arrow) THEN my health incrementally decreases as the different GCD abilities would have normally occurred.
Anyone on console knows that lethal arrow is buggy AF.Edited by Waffennacht on October 5, 2018 7:23PM0 -
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✭Focused aim cause penetration is the new king...ask shielded characters next patch..."Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."0 -
Xeniph✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »Does Focused Aim itself get the benefit from the reduced armor or is it applied to the follow-up attacks only?
Does this also increase the range of bombard / acid spray on the debuffed target or only direct damage abilities?
Why would someone decide to take Focused Aim over Lethal Arrow in pvp?
Thanks
Personally I take Focused Aim on my bow gank build because it's quite a bit more burst. On a true gank build ( A build that tries to one global a target) The healing debuff of Lethal is not needed, as the goal is to ensure your target can't break the stun before they die, let alone cast a heal.
The only problem with that is that the white column effect that it applies is quite noticeable and a large warning to a target they are about to be sniped. Many people use lethal because it doesn't have that warning.
No warning involved
For that column to show the shot has to land, which if done properly is far too late.
It's not too late for the second shot, lol.This is all great info. How much extra damage on the burst with Focused Aim’s debuff would you say you get? I know Lethal Arrow applies a poisoned dot but can’t acid spray and poison inject also apply the poisoned status effect as well? Or is this something different than what i think it is?
Lethal Arrow applies the status effect *poisoned* which does poison damage over time. It's not a lot of damage, but it's not avoidable and you would be surprised at how many people I see die from the poisoned effect. Pretty sure it can't be dodged, blocked either...
If you are continually sniping your target you are either safe, or bad. In a combo you snipeX2 LA+your shoice of instant ranged ability + Cloak & Profit.
As you can see, with that combo, the second snipe lands during the stun, with little to no chance to break before it lands, thus "alerting" your target with the column is moot.
Now if you are some bad player running around spamming the ability, you could have a point. However out of STEALTH, snipe has a whistle anyway, it even does it in cloak. So the impact of the column is moot either way.
Should have an audible que.... Should....
And an animation....
And lower your health when landing.... Not 5 seconds later
The audible queue is there when casted from any state but STEALTH. Which is once per engagement. Also you can blame the servers for the slow health bar reaction. At least that's the only time I see it happen to me.
If you really pay attention, you will notice the debuffs and dots being applied to your toon about .5 seconds before any actual damage lands. This is your first window to react. And this applies to all abilities, not just the ranged ones.
Debuff tracker on console shows debuffs after damage occurs.
I don't blame servers because it only occurs with lethal arrow. I have many clips of the desync.
I even have a clip where I go from nearly full health, then resource bars and skills lock up, (indication of death + lethal arrow) THEN my health incrementally decreases as the different GCD abilities would have normally occurred.
Anyone on console knows that lethal arrow is buggy AF.
I don't know what to say then. However I don't consider console a valid platform for an online game. Not enough processing power or ram to play something like this imo.Here since Beta.
Characters: All of them, both Stamina and Magicka.0