Capture the Relic is not fun

Aurielle

Look at my K/D/A. Look at my damage and healing done. This is not PVP; this is merely a race to see who has the fastest and tankiest build.

Does anyone actually enjoy Capture the Relic?

pdblake

It's the only BG I've ever done and I laughed all the way through it. Died a lot, but laughed more.

BigBadVolk

Aurielle wrote: »

Look at my K/D/A. Look at my damage and healing done. This is not PVP; this is merely a race to see who has the fastest and tankiest build.

Does anyone actually enjoy Capture the Relic?

It used to be fun, but not anymore tbh its just one of those let get done with this quickly

Schokolade

Fact: it is called Capture the Relic and not Deathmatch for a reason.
They are battleground, not true pvp..

Takes-No-Prisoner

I had some pretty epic fights in Capture the Relic. I teamed up with a magnb, forgot psn name, very capable guy. We stole the enemy teams relics and fought our way back to home base together watching each others backs along the way.

sudaki_eso

I like it, looks like your teammates took care of the others and you did the relic runs. Its fun if two teams are battling each other like a deathmatch and you can simply walk over to them and pick up the relics
If people dont know how to play it it will end up like in the screen...seems like nobody protectet their relic and it was an easy game for you.

Ilithyania

played enough Huttball to know what this BG mode is all about

Merlin13KAGL

What are you looking for it to be?

It's a different mode of play that benefits from different tactics and builds. Not everything needs to be decided by KDR.

If they even out the point rewards so that heals, defense, and offense get rewarded as much as actual captures do, it would be even better.

It's half about getting the other relic. The other half is about not losing (or regaining) your own.

And to answer the original question, "Yes." CTR can be a lot of fun if the group works well together.

scipionumatia

I enjoy it, its something different. I like the variety

Carbonised

Relic matches are about as interesting as watching paint dry. I've gotten all worthwhile achievements in BGs and all the 3 faction motifs, except Storm Lords belt, which ironically is found in relic matches of which I must have played more than 40 and still no belt ..

Deathmatches are fine, capture the flag/crazy king are fine, even chaosball can be entertaining at times, and all of these matches usually finish a good while before the time limit.

Relic matches, however, consist mostly of people camping around their own relic, sending out a few feelers here and there that easily get wiped, most of the time you're either frustratingly trying to capture a relic just to have some a-hat bash you a trillion times, or wiping to a 3-4 man defense that just keeps respawning right on top of the relic a few seconds after, or you waste the entire match at your home base getting zero points, zero medals and zero fun.
Relic matches also usually go on to the very end and the time limit, due to no one managing the required relics in order to finish the match.

THEY'RE F*ING BORING AND A WASTE OF MY TIME, and I wouldn't do a single one of these if it wasn't because they of course gated my final faction motif behind these rediculous matches.

Relic matches need reworking, they're currently the worst part of Battlegrounds, which already are festooned with terrible elements as it is.

Raammzzaa

I like capture the relic, myself. If you want to play team deathmatch then que up for team deathmatch. No need to make thread on the forum to let everybody know you don’t like a particular game mode. Smh

Donny_Vito

The point of CTR is to get done as soon as possible to earn AP as quickly as you can. Games last about 3 minutes and you can earn some decent AP speed-running this game type.

Donnasnowheart_ESO

I think ppl dislike it mostly because you need someone to always defend to be successful vs more experienced players and not everyone likes that, the same could be said for crazy king or domination but to a lesser extent because that's more so about rotating with shorter bursts of defense as a group at that.

FloppyTouch

Donny_Vito wrote: »

The point of CTR is to get done as soon as possible to earn AP as quickly as you can. Games last about 3 minutes and you can earn some decent AP speed-running this game type.

This, fast AP farm no need to fight pve players love this for pvp skills.

Aurielle

Raammzzaa wrote: »

I like capture the relic, myself. If you want to play team deathmatch then que up for team deathmatch. No need to make thread on the forum to let everybody know you don’t like a particular game mode. Smh

I didn’t just make a forum post to let everyone know I don’t like a game mode. It’s called feedback. I find CTR extremely boring, and I personally find it unfair that I did so much better that my teammates because I held down the sprint button. The scoring is completely messed up.

Donny_Vito

Unless they make this game-type like other games (Halo comes to mind) where you gain experience (or in this case, AP) based on the duration of the match and modifiers depending on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place, then this game-type will continue to be exploited where the only objective is to get done as quickly as possible.

Aurielle

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

What are you looking for it to be?

It's a different mode of play that benefits from different tactics and builds. Not everything needs to be decided by KDR.

If they even out the point rewards so that heals, defense, and offense get rewarded as much as actual captures do, it would be even better.

It's half about getting the other relic. The other half is about not losing (or regaining) your own.

And to answer the original question, "Yes." CTR can be a lot of fun if the group works well together.

I’m looking for it to be fun.

Right now, CTR tends to have two results: (1) one team steamrolling over the other two because the other two don’t know the “two guard, two take relics” strategy, and; (2) matches that drag on for an eternity because relics are so well-defended to the point that no one can pick them up.

Also, since scoring has an impact on the end of match drops you get (as well as your leaderboard ranking, obviously), the relic runners ALWAYS do better than the defenders. By pointing out my K/D/A ratio, I wasn’t pointing out that I don’t like it that I can win without killing anyone — I was pointing out that it wasn’t fair I got the high score when two of my teammates obviously put in a lot more effort than I did. I literally just ran to enemy relics on a speed build, stunned the defenders who could not target me, and ran back. Three times. Game over.

Land capture BGs are far more entertaining (esp. Crazy King) because they really open up as the matches go on. It’s possible to win Crazy King while being behind for most of the match. And everyone who assists in the capture of a flag gets lots of points — not just one or two people.

Urvoth

It's bad because CTF style games are designed for 2 teams, but capture the relic is a 3 team game. If it were just 2 teams, there would be a lot more fighting and strategy instead of just farming the team with no defense.

MooseKnuckles88

The best advice I can give about battlegrounds is to stay together with your group and do the battleground mechanic. Often people think every match is Deathmatch then scratch their head on how they lost despite having over 15 kills

Odovacar

I think since now everyone has access to BG's a lot of newer players just haven't had the time to know or wtf their doing so they just revert to deathmatch mode. CTR can be very fun when everyone knows the game (everyone meaning all three teams).

Aurielle

MooseKnuckles88 wrote: »

The best advice I can give about battlegrounds is to stay together with your group and do the battleground mechanic. Often people think every match is Deathmatch then scratch their head on how they lost despite having over 15 kills

I know how to run BGs...

I’m saying that CTR is a boring BG mode with flawed scoring calculations. I groan every time I get it as the daily random.

bongtokin420insd16

ya i think CTR is a blast. I am neither Tanky or fast, but run relics all the time. I also defend, based on game flow. But you have to know the game flow and watch to pick it up or you can get wrecked.

Latios

Aurielle wrote: »

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MooseKnuckles88 wrote: »

The best advice I can give about battlegrounds is to stay together with your group and do the battleground mechanic. Often people think every match is Deathmatch then scratch their head on how they lost despite having over 15 kills

I know how to run BGs...

I’m saying that CTR is a boring BG mode with flawed scoring calculations. I groan every time I get it as the daily random.

Eh, I've been in many fun CTR games, but I understand how it can be bad. The worst, however, is Chaosball, IMO. It's always the same: Grab ball, run to your base, camp there and repeat. I think it would be much better if the ball respawned randomly when dropped, instead of just dropping on top of the player, or if they added a timer to stop the same team from picking it up(like 10 seconds).

BigBadVolk

Donny_Vito wrote: »

The point of CTR is to get done as soon as possible to earn AP as quickly as you can. Games last about 3 minutes and you can earn some decent AP speed-running this game type.

tbh domination is much better for that

Eh, I've been in many fun CTR games, but I understand how it can be bad. The worst, however, is Chaosball, IMO. It's always the same: Grab ball, run to your base, camp there and repeat. I think it would be much better if the ball respawned randomly when dropped, instead of just dropping on top of the player, or if they added a timer to stop the same team from picking it up(like 10 seconds).

They could also add a slow debuff to it and maybe a little bit take back from the defile debuff of chaos ball

Beardimus

I like all the modes, actually over time DM less so as its less tactical. And small scale fights i head to Cyro.

I'm guessing ur MMR is low on that toon as other teams seemed to do very little?

MooseKnuckles88

Aurielle wrote: »

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MooseKnuckles88 wrote: »

The best advice I can give about battlegrounds is to stay together with your group and do the battleground mechanic. Often people think every match is Deathmatch then scratch their head on how they lost despite having over 15 kills

I know how to run BGs...

I’m saying that CTR is a boring BG mode with flawed scoring calculations. I groan every time I get it as the daily random.

My comment was intended to be an open generalization to anyone playing bg, not directional to the OP

Aurielle

Beardimus wrote: »

I like all the modes, actually over time DM less so as its less tactical. And small scale fights i head to Cyro.

I'm guessing ur MMR is low on that toon as other teams seemed to do very little?

The match was over in under two minutes. The other teams didn’t have any time to do anything.

I do play less BGs on my DK, but still. People did have some idea what they were doing, as they were TRYING to defend...

Dashmatt

Capture the Relic games can be the absolute worst, or the absolute best depending on the mix of players. When it is just unkillable, unslowable players running relics nonstop, it is the worst. When it is a team death match where people fight while holding relics, it is the best.

NyassaV

It might be fun if it was actually capture the flag and only had 2 teams

Konstant_Tel_Necris

I found them more fun then deathmatch actually, at least its not damage race.

spartaxoxo

I enjoy it.