Healstacking shouldnt be in the game

THE_BIG_BOSS

Why are people able to Stack vigor + FM/Rally for insane heals???

And why are the heals critting? Where are the crittable shields?

My shields get Crit damage but i cant Cast Crit shields - Logic????

Teeba_Shei

You can stack shields and you can stack heals...

GreenHere

Don't forget to stack those Lingering Health pots with your other healing! Wait...

Thrasher91604

Yes, and let's not forget the ability to stack multiple dot damage on enemies. SO OP!

Or stacking multiple speed multipliers or stamina regen sources!

Nerf all stacks!

VaranisArano

Thrasher91604 wrote: »

Yes, and let's not forget the ability to stack multiple dot damage on enemies. SO OP!

Or stacking multiple speed multipliers or stamina regen sources!

Nerf all stacks!

No! Not my Argonian Chimney Stack!

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/argonian-chimney-stack/

kypranb14_ESO

You know what's really great? When you're entire team has a restoration staff on the backbar, and you all stack mutagen on each other.

What's even better is when you all stack healing springs at your feat when people try to pressure you. XD

I got into a battlegrounds match like this the other day, was my first 0 deaths game on my Magplar.

Maryal

I know, right?! Get rid of heal stacking, DOT stacking, shield stacking, buff stacking, synergies, coordinated play, chat windows, enchantments, no more bar swapping (you only get 1 bar), no more stacking armor buffs (can only wear only one 5 piece set OR you can use one enhanced weapon, everything else has to be non-set armor / plain un-enhanced weapons). Oh yeah, and when you get hit by an enemy player you are required to stand perfectly still and let them bludgeon you to death.

Why? Because it's unreasonable that anyone gain an advantage by thinking outside-the-box, or by strategizing; shame on anyone who enjoys figuring out ways to work around someone else's defenses ... in other words, nerf brain power. I think that pretty much sums it up.

SydneyGrey

Without some heal stacking, veteran DLC dungeons are going to be impossible.

Thrasher91604

It doesn't matter. Only PvP matters don't you know?

Saucy_Jack

Up, down, left, right, B, A, select, start. Any other buttons in your rotation are superfluous.

Tasear

How would this work for groups? Why do you think such changes are important?

Your class reps are listening.

Banana

Stacking damage is always terrible as well

D0PAMINE

Tasear wrote: »

How would this work for groups? Why do you think such changes are important?

Your class reps are listening.

@Tasear you're a gem.

Tsukiino

If you're having trouble killing a player, try getting more damage

If they are obviously built as a tank, don't focus them, focus their healer/glass cannon allies

smashcats

Tsukiino wrote: »

If you're having trouble killing a player, try getting more damage

If they are obviously built as a tank, don't focus them, focus their healer/glass cannon allies

Problem is, that guy is not just a tank, hes got atleast 2500 weapon damage and hes gonna 2H you to death in about 3 attacks, cause balance

Sparr0w

Yes op, let pve die, who needs pve'rs anyway?

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

stacking to me should not happen

Gnozo

smashcats wrote: »

Tsukiino wrote: »

If you're having trouble killing a player, try getting more damage

If they are obviously built as a tank, don't focus them, focus their healer/glass cannon allies

Problem is, that guy is not just a tank, hes got atleast 2500 weapon damage and hes gonna 2H you to death in about 3 attacks, cause balance

If someone with 2500 weapon damage kills you with 3 attacks there is something wrong with your build or you are Roleplaying as a target skeleton.

Merlin13KAGL

Thrasher91604 wrote: »

Yes, and let's not forget the ability to stack multiple dot damage on enemies. SO OP!

Or stacking multiple speed multipliers or stamina regen sources!

Nerf all stacks!

Plus defiles, plus poisons, plus Anguish...

EDIT: Plus bleeds...

keevil111

I once ordered a half-stack from IHOP...

Konstant_Tel_Necris

Thrasher91604 wrote: »

Yes, and let's not forget the ability to stack multiple dot damage on enemies. SO OP!

Or stacking multiple speed multipliers or stamina regen sources!

Nerf all stacks!

Sure, they should nerf stacking cost increase on streak and roll dodge lol, also nerf stack of Siroria so spell damage boost becomes instant, oh wait did they actually done this with Spell Strategist?

Amdar_Godkiller

(Looks at tooltip for momentum)

LOL

The 200-400 health per second this gets in Cyrodil is definitely the top priority when it comes to improving this game /s

Those massive 600 health ticks every OTHER second are undoubtedly the reason you are unable to kill other players /s

OGLezard

Tasear wrote: »

How would this work for groups? Why do you think such changes are important?

Your class reps are listening.

But zos is not...... they will do what they want anyways lol as we can tell

Qbiken

Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »

(Looks at tooltip for momentum)

LOL

The 200-400 health per second this gets in Cyrodil is definitely the top priority when it comes to improving this game /s

Those massive 600 health ticks every OTHER second are undoubtedly the reason you are unable to kill other players /s

OP has a point tho..

Checking my combat metrics after certain fights in Cyrodil I´ve up to 2-2,5k FM ticks (critical heals but still). And that´s on a heavy armor stamblade without minor/major vitality. Any stamina setup can throw on 7th Legion + Fury and see their healing skyrocket since their primary heals (FM/Rally + Vigor) scales of max stamina and weapon damage.

Vigor can easily give you 2-3k HP/second, FM another 1k/second. So just with this we´ve 3-4k HP/second without any minor/major buffs (taking these numbers from my own heavy armor stamblade). A stamDK or stamwarden can boost these numbers even more (and stamDK will be even better next patch with the buff to minor brutality).

ZOS_Mika

We have removed some unnecessary and insulting comments from this thread. Please keep all discussion civil and on topic. Thanks for your understanding.

swippy

[this is my reply from another thread by the OP that @ZOS_MikaS deemed "similar".
That thread was more specific in asking about why the skill Healing Springs should stack. i assume the mods will address any questions regarding missing context.]

because it lasts for 3 seconds, so with the one-second global cooldown it really only can be 2 on at a time, right? so i guess it's like that because it seems fine and there's no reason for it not to stack.

@THE_BIG_BOSS do you have any reason for why it should not stack? what would be the threshold for healing to not be "insane" then?

Jeremy

THE_BIG_BOSS wrote: »

Why are people able to Stack vigor + FM/Rally for insane heals???

And why are the heals critting? Where are the crittable shields?

My shields get Crit damage but i cant Cast Crit shields - Logic????

Maybe it's cause I only do non-CP PvP. I dunno... but I've never met a competent DPS who had any problems doing more damage than my pitiful heals could put out. Even if I stack rapid regeneration, Ritual of retribution while spamming breath of it only provides a mild nuisance at best. So maybe I should convert my character to a stamina build and try making a healer with that...

pod88kk

Sounds like you're looking for a game that's more turn based where people can only use on move per turn whether it be a heal/damage/shield. I'd suggest looking for a different game as ESO's game play as always been fast & exciting.

GrigorijMalahevich

Maryal wrote: »

I know, right?! Get rid of heal stacking, DOT stacking, shield stacking, buff stacking, synergies, coordinated play, chat windows, enchantments, no more bar swapping (you only get 1 bar), no more stacking armor buffs (can only wear only one 5 piece set OR you can use one enhanced weapon, everything else has to be non-set armor / plain un-enhanced weapons). Oh yeah, and when you get hit by an enemy player you are required to stand perfectly still and let them bludgeon you to death.

Why? Because it's unreasonable that anyone gain an advantage by thinking outside-the-box, or by strategizing; shame on anyone who enjoys figuring out ways to work around someone else's defenses ... in other words, nerf brain power. I think that pretty much sums it up.

Haha man, for some reason after reading your text up to "buff stacking" I for some reason started to play "*** lovers" song in my head,

Tia413

Maryal wrote: »

I know, right?! Get rid of heal stacking, DOT stacking, shield stacking, buff stacking, synergies, coordinated play, chat windows, enchantments, no more bar swapping (you only get 1 bar), no more stacking armor buffs (can only wear only one 5 piece set OR you can use one enhanced weapon, everything else has to be non-set armor / plain un-enhanced weapons). Oh yeah, and when you get hit by an enemy player you are required to stand perfectly still and let them bludgeon you to death.

Why? Because it's unreasonable that anyone gain an advantage by thinking outside-the-box, or by strategizing; shame on anyone who enjoys figuring out ways to work around someone else's defenses ... in other words, nerf brain power. I think that pretty much sums it up.

This made me giggle. But I agree with you.

But I will see you one.

Let's just have plain armor, no skills, no pots, no weapons, automatic attribute points for each class, and no combat pets. So that way everyone (be it a PvPer or PvEer) is balanced and on an equal playing field.

I am tired of feeling a nerf that was caused by PvP when I am retired from PvP and now only PvE.

SydneyGrey

Heals in the game are fine. Stop trying to nerf everything.
If you nerf heals for PvP, it'll destroy PvE dungeons and trials. Stop it. The whole game isn't PvP.