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Who’s ready to get stronger next patch?

Koolio
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I’m sorry I meant weaker.
  • _Ahala_
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    I’m actually ready to start looking for a different game now as this patch looks like it’s gonna be the 6th patch in a row that has femur shattering consequences for Magden
  • Crixus8000
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    They just keep nerfing solo/smallscale play. It's getting very boring.
  • NobleX35
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    This patch is shaping up to be one of the worst patches in ZoS history.
    "Only the dead have seen the end of war."
  • Joker99
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    NobleX35 wrote: »
    This patch is shaping up to be one of the worst patches in ZoS history.

    That's what people said about Morrowind and the game went only up.
    PC-EU
    DPS Slave:
    StamNB, MagNB, MagPlar, MagDK, StamDK, StamWarden
    Mostly just a scrub. Not even max CP.Actually max CP.
  • bardx86
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    Joker99 wrote: »
    NobleX35 wrote: »
    This patch is shaping up to be one of the worst patches in ZoS history.

    That's what people said about Morrowind and the game went only up.

    It did? My sorc hasn't seen that.
  • VaranisArano
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    If everyone else gets nerfed except for my build, I'm stronger in comparison, right? LOL.
    Edited by VaranisArano on October 2, 2018 1:16AM
  • ruikkarikun
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    Joker99 wrote: »
    NobleX35 wrote: »
    This patch is shaping up to be one of the worst patches in ZoS history.

    That's what people said about Morrowind and the game went only up.

    Like this sound when you are run out of mana/stamina? OK.
  • Anhedonie
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    Joker99 wrote: »
    NobleX35 wrote: »
    This patch is shaping up to be one of the worst patches in ZoS history.

    That's what people said about Morrowind and the game went only up.

    Probably that's why Morrowind killed off almost all competitive raiding guilds.
    Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.
  • Casul
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    I made a stamplar just for this patch alone, and honestly I’m happy I did. It is becoming my favorite character.
    PvP needs more love.
  • NobleX35
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    Joker99 wrote: »
    NobleX35 wrote: »
    This patch is shaping up to be one of the worst patches in ZoS history.

    That's what people said about Morrowind and the game went only up.

    And yet they have had to systematically undo many of the changes they implemented in Morrowind because they were poorly thought out and had negative effects on gameplay.
    "Only the dead have seen the end of war."
  • Nicko_Lps
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    Only nightblades get stronger while all the rest get weaker.(expect new forum special snowflakes wardens)

    Wrobbel takes a good care of it, he balance the game correctly.
  • greylox
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    Nerfs make me wanna play less and red dead and fallout are out soon so, yeah things to do.
    Edited by greylox on October 2, 2018 7:21AM
    PC EU

    House of the Black Lotus
    *{Smokes-in-the-Shade }* (Mag pet Sorc Argonian, prolific thief, willing participant of the dark arts, gardener of exotic...herbs)
    {Lugdum The Mechanist} (Hybrid Orc Templar, collector of ancient Ayleid smoking pipes)
    {Rantoul} (Dark Elf Magknight, likes an ale between boss fights, has been known to offer daedric princes out in a fist fight)
    {Red, The Wanderer} (Bosmer stam sorc and hunter extraordinaire)
    {Shoots-For-Stars} (Argonian Mag pet Sorc Ice mage Healer)
    *{Jinny the spark }* (Sassy Imperial Stamplar)
    {Crezzi the Drifter} (Magblade khajiit burglar, available for questionable operations)
    {Grif the Despised} (StamKnight Tank Nord, Eastmarch Master Drinker and spinner of tall yarns)
    {Geraldine Stone-Heart} (High Elf MagSorc Ice Tank, Mystic, practitioner of the ancient arts)
    *{Anawinn}* (Stam pet Ward Redguard, Mother to a bear and an unruly Hunger,Librarian, field medic and natures fist)

    {*}Mains
    { CP 900+ }

    Caretaker of Battle Island (Grand Topal), the holiday destination for the discerning warrior
    Residing in Stay-Moist Mansion-Shadowfen - The Smoking Den (as of 6th feb 2017)

  • Lake
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    Joker99 wrote: »
    NobleX35 wrote: »
    This patch is shaping up to be one of the worst patches in ZoS history.

    That's what people said about Morrowind and the game went only up.

    This is true.

    If you want ZoS to actually care, you must actually quit. Not just complain on the forums.
  • Beardimus
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    SORC TANKS TO THE RAM.

    Lul
    Xbox One | EU | EP
    Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
    Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
    1st Emperor of Ravenwatch
    Alts - - for the Lolz
    Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
    Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

    Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
    Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
    Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders

    Xbox One | NA | EP
    Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
    Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
    Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
    Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    All them white knights will come soon defending how we have 11 mil players or something with different shards and etc.

    Everyone not PvE NB will feel the strength rise within their nerfed strength. I mean 0 strength.
    Edited by IZZEFlameLash on October 2, 2018 7:46AM
    Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel
  • Septimus_Magna
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Only nightblades get stronger while all the rest get weaker.(expect new forum special snowflakes wardens)

    Wrobbel takes a good care of it, he balance the game correctly.

    Stamden arguably gets the most buffs in Nerfmire, the class is looking pretty good for both PVE and PVP.
    PC - EU (AD)
    Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
    Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
    Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
    Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
    Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
    Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
    Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
    Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer
  • Sparr0w
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    Magblade = Nerf
    Magsorc = Nerf
    Magden = Nerf
    MagDK = Nerf + Buff
    MagPlar = Buff

    StamBlade = Slight nerf
    StamPlar = Buff
    StamDen = Buff
    StamDK = Slight buff
    StamSorc = Nothing

    Overall mag classes got sustain nerfed + shields nerfed. Stamblade got a sustain nerf + every other stam got buffed.
    @Sparr0w so I get the notification
    Xbox (EU) - l Sparrow x | CP 810+
    DD: All Mag + Stam
    Heal: Templar | Sorc | NB | Warden | Necro
    Tank: NB | DK | Warden
    Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH
    PC (EU) - Sparrxw | CP 810+
    DD: All Mag + Stam
    Heal: Templar | Sorc
    Tank: DK | NB
    Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH + GS
  • hakan
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Only nightblades get stronger while all the rest get weaker.(expect new forum special snowflakes wardens)

    Wrobbel takes a good care of it, he balance the game correctly.

    hello, is this salt talking? never seen a huge buff to nb only slight nerfs
  • leepalmer95
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    Joker99 wrote: »
    NobleX35 wrote: »
    This patch is shaping up to be one of the worst patches in ZoS history.

    That's what people said about Morrowind and the game went only up.

    My server has literally been bleeding player since morrowind.

    It can't even pop lock vivec at like 8pm at night.

    Other pvp campaigns have 0 bars.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • BNOC
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    Joker99 wrote: »
    NobleX35 wrote: »
    This patch is shaping up to be one of the worst patches in ZoS history.

    That's what people said about Morrowind and the game went only up.

    They've had the game on that free play thing a fair few times since the release of Morrowind iirc, so that's no surprise.

    It's also on Xbox GamePass now.

    It's great that there's new players coming and trying it out but what's the retention?

    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
    578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)

    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
    569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)
  • keevil111
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    If everyone else gets nerfed except for my build, I'm stronger in comparison, right? LOL.

    Go on, tell us your build so we can "take a look at it..." -devs
    PS4 NA
  • Nicko_Lps
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    hakan wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Only nightblades get stronger while all the rest get weaker.(expect new forum special snowflakes wardens)

    Wrobbel takes a good care of it, he balance the game correctly.

    hello, is this salt talking? never seen a huge buff to nb only slight nerfs

    You never seen buffs on nightblade? How the heck they dominate this game then? LOL :trollface:
    All them white knights will come soon defending how we have 11 mil players or something with different shards and etc.

    Everyone not PvE NB will feel the strength rise within their nerfed strength. I mean 0 strength.

    WoW had a total of 16.4m players during legion.
    Now if you think ESO has 11m players... Im done, im seriously done LOL
  • Donny_Vito
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    Who's ready to adapt and stop whining?
  • profundidob16_ESO
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    Koolio wrote: »
    I’m sorry I meant weaker.

    I logged on to my DK tank on pts and I was in fact quite a bit stronger :):) No joke
  • Silver_Strider
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    Donny_Vito wrote: »
    Who's ready to adapt and stop whining?

    But what else can I drink with my cheese if not whine? :D
    Argonian forever
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Magblade = Nerf
    Magsorc = Nerf
    Magden = Nerf
    MagDK = Nerf + Buff
    MagPlar = Buff

    StamBlade = Slight nerf
    StamPlar = Buff
    StamDen = Buff
    StamDK = Slight buff
    StamSorc = Nothing

    Overall mag classes got sustain nerfed + shields nerfed. Stamblade got a sustain nerf + every other stam got buffed.

    Magsorc = Buff (as of the latest PTS)
    Magden = Buff (due to sustain)
    MagDk = Buff
    Magplar = Buff
    Magblade = nerf due to sustain, but nothing changed

    Stamblade = Nerf due to sustain, but nothing changed
    Stamplar = Buff
    Stamden = Buff
    StamDk = Buff
    Stam Sorc = No change

    Not really sure how mag classes got nerfed if Sorc damage is higher and sustain was improved, MagDen got a sustain buff which allows it to do more damage due to previously unavailable rotation options, MagDk damage and skill range buffed thus improving the damage, magplar got a huge damage buff and magnb stayed the same with a slight sustain nerf.
  • Joosef_Kivikilpi
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    My Spellsword PVP build actually got buffed... but then buffed unknowingly by everyone else getting nerfed. Pretty excited to try it out, except my shields will be more garbage than they already were against critical builds.

    But they should stop messing with critical chance so much... literally went from 57% down to 45% now, due to dropping Thief Mundus (nerfed hard) to now the CP passive from 12% to 9%. Granted, probably wise with shields being able to receive critical hits now.
  • Feanor
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    These lists really miss context. It’s a big difference to assess buffs and nerfs for PvE or PvP. Also Sorc sustain isn’t improved @hedna123b14_ESO. Pet Sorcs didn’t need the cost reduction on pets at all, non-pet Sorc is unchanged. Conversion still doesn’t fit into a PvE setup, and is actually worse for PvP.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • Biro123
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    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Magblade = Nerf
    Magsorc = Nerf
    Magden = Nerf
    MagDK = Nerf + Buff
    MagPlar = Buff

    StamBlade = Slight nerf
    StamPlar = Buff
    StamDen = Buff
    StamDK = Slight buff
    StamSorc = Nothing

    Overall mag classes got sustain nerfed + shields nerfed. Stamblade got a sustain nerf + every other stam got buffed.

    Magsorc = Buff (as of the latest PTS)
    Magden = Buff (due to sustain)
    MagDk = Buff
    Magplar = Buff
    Magblade = nerf due to sustain, but nothing changed

    Stamblade = Nerf due to sustain, but nothing changed
    Stamplar = Buff
    Stamden = Buff
    StamDk = Buff
    Stam Sorc = No change

    Not really sure how mag classes got nerfed if Sorc damage is higher and sustain was improved, MagDen got a sustain buff which allows it to do more damage due to previously unavailable rotation options, MagDk damage and skill range buffed thus improving the damage, magplar got a huge damage buff and magnb stayed the same with a slight sustain nerf.

    How the hell can anyone think magsorc got buffed?!
    :confounded:
    Minalan owes me a beer.

    PC EU Megaserver
    Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
    Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
    Aidee - Magsorc - DC
    Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
    Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.
  • Amdar_Godkiller
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    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Magblade = Nerf
    Magsorc = Nerf
    Magden = Nerf
    MagDK = Nerf + Buff
    MagPlar = Buff

    StamBlade = Slight nerf
    StamPlar = Buff
    StamDen = Buff
    StamDK = Slight buff
    StamSorc = Nothing

    Overall mag classes got sustain nerfed + shields nerfed. Stamblade got a sustain nerf + every other stam got buffed.

    Medium armor was nerfed. Dodge roll is now half effective and major evasion no longer grants dodge chance. That's like losing 16500 resistance in pvp.
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