Ok...now I k ow and am still not upset at the nerf even as a magsorc

Sophocles1

I read the forums a lot and see tons of general lament, some reference to casting time, and vague patch notes about adjusting. Can somebody explain what precisely is will be please for those of us who are part time forum readers?

Hixtory

Shields are gonna get crit hits, and there will be a 1second cast time. So no more "Oh ***" button.

This affects magicka builds OF ALL CLASSES

Sophocles1

Hmmmm...clearly I am a noob cuz that doesn’t seem all that bad....

sharquez

Read the patch notes. You are sitting on a machine that has nearly unlimited access to the sum total of mankind's knowledge.

The short of it is that light armor and sorcerer shields are getting a 1 second (more like 2-3) cast time, and are able to be critically hit, but take the users resistances into account.

sharquez

Your character stands there making a motion like they are defecating while taking the damage that kills them before they can finish casting the shield. it's pretty awful.

Hixtory

Shields are gonna get crit hits, and there will be a 1second cast time. So no more "Oh ***" button.

This affects amgicka builds OF ALL CLASSES

Sophocles1 wrote: »

Hmmmm...clearly I am a noob cuz that doesn’t seem all that bad....

Dunno if a noob, but we rely on shields to survive in most content. The nerf is uncalled, and the most affected class is obviously sorcs.

We are hoping this doesnt go live

Sophocles1

Hmmm....I never timed my shields so precisely so definitely noobs will notice it less.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Sophocles1 wrote: »

Hmmm....I never timed my shields so precisely so definitely noobs will notice it less.

Actually, noobs will notice the most when things go live, especially in PVP. There are going to be a lot noobs going out like Elvis next patch (i.e., dying while taking a big sh....).

Drdeath20

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Sophocles1 wrote: »

Hmmm....I never timed my shields so precisely so definitely noobs will notice it less.

Actually, noobs will notice the most when things go live, especially in PVP. There are going to be a lot noobs going out like Elvis next patch (i.e., dying while taking a big sh....).

Elvis is dead!?!? Lol jj

Kingslayer513

Sophocles1 wrote: »

Hmmmm...clearly I am a noob cuz that doesn’t seem all that bad....

Have you ever gotten a lag spike in PVP/PVE where your shield doesn't go off right away, and you die because of it? Now imagine that being built into the shield's design.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Sophocles1 wrote: »

Hmmm....I never timed my shields so precisely so definitely noobs will notice it less.

Actually, noobs will notice the most when things go live, especially in PVP. There are going to be a lot noobs going out like Elvis next patch (i.e., dying while taking a big sh....).

Elvis is dead!?!? Lol jj

Depends on whom you ask. Haha

Salvas_Aren

Healers will enjoy the cast time. By losing that second when shielding, they get damage instead of distributing damage or heals.

The heals that follow will be used for self-healing instead of party-healing.

I have a hard time trying to understand why this will improve the value of healers in the raid party.

max_only

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Healers will enjoy the cast time. By losing that second when shielding, they get damage instead of distributing damage or heals.

The heals that follow will be used for self-healing instead of party-healing.

I have a hard time trying to understand why this will improve the value of healers in the raid party.

Love this sarcasm. Yes we healers are going to have a great time once this is live. Super duper fun time

srfrogg23

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Sophocles1 wrote: »

Hmmm....I never timed my shields so precisely so definitely noobs will notice it less.

Actually, noobs will notice the most when things go live, especially in PVP. There are going to be a lot noobs going out like Elvis next patch (i.e., dying while taking a big sh....).

Elvis is dead!?!? Lol jj

That's just speculation. Saw him in Vegas just the other day.

Tommy_The_Gun

Hixtory wrote: »

Shields are gonna get crit hits, and there will be a 1second cast time. So no more "Oh ***" button.

This affects magicka builds OF ALL CLASSES

Shields will also now have dmg mitigation - the game will take in to account your armour (physical & spell resistance) and the dmg will be reduced by your armour mitigation - the rest will be absorbed by shields.

Starlock

Sophocles1 wrote: »

Hmmmm...clearly I am a noob cuz that doesn’t seem all that bad....

Nah, I don't get it either. And I'm not a noob.

max_only

The problem is, there is a delay between pushing the button and receiving the defense. If you are a healer, self defense is better than overhealing oneself. If you have lag, there is already a delay between pressing the button and receiving defense.
Ugh oh, incoming mechanic when boss jumps to each group member, healer goes to cast a shield aaaaaaand we’re dead.


Pvp people have their own reasons I don’t care about,

Sophocles1

I can see that. But I figure we just anticipate with shields a little. Especially with bosses who are as predictable as clockwork. No?
Pvp...well, it is in pvp where I have seen the most vituperative in game chat- I guess that is the group that has made the game such a precise science that anything less than the perfection they have painstakingly worked out is super frustrating for them. So when they have literally cursed me out for five minutes Cuz I made an error in BGS, it makes sense they will be very angry when a global change is made. And I am not mocking them- they have taken the game to its utmost limit of precision so I see their frustration. But I kind of wish they would let it be more of a game and fun than an Olympic event.

smacx250

From the patch notes, so far:

Updated the behavior of all damage shields.

• You can now deal a Critical Strike against an enemy with a damage shield.
• Your Spell and Physical Resistance now reduces incoming damage before it is applied to your damage shield.

Conjured Ward:

• This ability and its morphs now have a 1-second cast time, previously an instant cast.
• This ability and its morphs can no longer be interrupted. (2nd patch)
• Increased the duration of the damage shield for Conjured Ward and the Hardened Ward morph to 9 seconds from 6 seconds.
• Empowered Ward (morph): Increased the duration of the damage shield to 14 seconds from 9 seconds.

Annulment

• This ability and its morphs now have a 1 second cast time, previously instant-cast.
• This ability and its morphs can no longer be interrupted (2nd patch)
• Increased the duration of the damage shield to 9 seconds from 6 seconds.

Healing Ward

• Removed the initial heal from this ability

firedrgn

Light armor nerff when they have been telling us they are going to help light and medium armor and sustain.
I am most likley the minority here. But the said reasons for the nerffs bug me more that the nerffs.

They just ooze like a sore.

max_only

Sophocles1 wrote: »

I can see that. But I figure we just anticipate with shields a little. Especially with bosses who are as predictable as clockwork. No?
Pvp...well, it is in pvp where I have seen the most vituperative in game chat- I guess that is the group that has made the game such a precise science that anything less than the perfection they have painstakingly worked out is super frustrating for them. So when they have literally cursed me out for five minutes Cuz I made an error in BGS, it makes sense they will be very angry when a global change is made. And I am not mocking them- they have taken the game to its utmost limit of precision so I see their frustration. But I kind of wish they would let it be more of a game and fun than an Olympic event.

When I pug, nothing is predictable.

Beardimus

Sophocles1 wrote: »

Hmmmm...clearly I am a noob cuz that doesn’t seem all that bad....

Do you PvP or PvE? As PvP is a game changer.
1. Wards now Crit. Thus we will take huge burst unless we run high impen. It means good by to Divines / Infused / well fitted etc so we are pigeon holed into the same trait as everyone else or face huge burst
1b. Healing wards loses its heal, so no inital heal
2. There is a second delay on wards that's interuptable. So as you take damage you can't get your ward up instantly. This means death
3. As they have a cast time they can be interuoted. So folks can stop you warding
4. Also resostances play a part now, so suddenly heavy armour sorcs will be seen trying to survive.

If you PvE, and don't do hard content. Sure you might not notice a huge difference