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Murkmire : Will this update increase or decrease PvP Presence/Population?

Joshlenoir
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Simple poll.
Will this murkmire update (everything from class to cyrodill to gear changes- or the lack thereof) have a net increase or a net decrease on the overall PvP presence and population in the game?

Murkmire : Will this update increase or decrease PvP Presence/Population? 265 votes

Increase.
10%
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Decrease.
55%
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It will remain relatively unchanged.
33%
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  • Aliyavana
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    Decrease.
    I see a decrease in sorcs and magika builds
  • _Ahala_
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    Decrease.
    Many mag mains will most likely quit or reroll stam
  • ezio45
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    Decrease.
    I cant pvp on my sorc like this so thats at least 1 person that it will be decreased by
  • Hateanthem
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    It will remain relatively unchanged.
    In terms of overall numbers, I don't see much of a change. Some people will reroll characters, some people will quit the game, new people will start playing the game, and most will just keep on keeping on.
  • Lucky28
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    Decrease.
    The patch hasn't even gone live and it's already having a negative impact.

    so, yeah.....
    Invictus
  • Gunzork
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    Decrease.
    With the new healing ward nerf they killed the way I play my magdk..So I will maybe unsub and what they did with the Anguish nerf is really no enough..Only 700 less is nothing it will overperform anything.
  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    Decrease.
    ESO would be a much better game (and better off) if they eliminated PVP entirely.

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  • Eirella
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    Decrease.
    Probably decrease...
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  • dan958
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    @dan958 - PC/EU - Dannuin - Nightblade - Bosmer - CP1048 - For the Queen!
  • craftycarper73
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    Decrease.
    I dont think the decrease will just be limited to pvp.
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    Such as housing and libraries, and health, education

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    Some are born here, some drawn here but we all call it home

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  • Ozazz
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    Decrease.
    _Ahala_ wrote: »
    Many mag mains will most likely quit or reroll stam

    yes sir.
    Now you would think zos could comprehend this but probably not.
  • rfennell_ESO
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    Increase.
    Being you bolded net it will likely lead to, at least, a quarterly increase in players in pvp, particularly in cyrodiil.

    Furthermore the DLC itself likely will create, at least a, quarterly increase in players which will also lead to increase in populations in pvp.

  • regime211
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    I'm glad shield took a nerf. gItGoOd
  • Katahdin
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    I think it will decrease at first as people do the content then it will go back to previous levels.
    Beta tester November 2013
  • rfennell_ESO
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    Increase.
    It will likely increase at first and then drop off the table on November 18th.
  • Starlock
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    It will remain relatively unchanged.
    It might be more informative to ask "do you as an individual plan to PvP more than before, less than before, or about the same as before?" Granted, it still wouldn't be representational, but I responded to the poll in the spirit of that. The Murkmire changes won't change how much I PvP since I don't really like it to begin with.
  • Universe
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    dan958 wrote: »
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    Exactly.
    It will be best to wait for all PTS incremental patches to be released before asking this question.
    The patch notes in PTS are not final and everything can be changed in future PTS incremental patches before going live.
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  • RedRook
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    It will remain relatively unchanged.
    I expect it will be about the same dwindling shadow it's been since Morrowind. But I could be wrong: we asked for additions and changes to Cyrodiil for so long, maybe some who've left will come back to see them. Maybe the changes will be so amazing the BS won't outweigh the fun. It could happen, maybe.
  • Gythral
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    Who cares
    ZOS will just blame FO76 beta and move on
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  • SirAndy
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    Well, i've been leveling a DC toon for the last few weeks and picked Shor for her main campaign.

    I don't think the DC population can get any lower during my prime time which is late evening PST.
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  • D0PAMINE
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    Decrease.
    regime211 wrote: »
    I'm glad shield took a nerf. gItGoOd

    Shields are easy to wear down
  • Dojohoda
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    Increase.
    Destructible bottlenecks should pique interest as well as the new outposts and additional port.
    Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
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  • SkysOutThizeOut
    SkysOutThizeOut
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    Increase.
    They have been killing my mag dk playstyle all year. This was the nail in the coffin.
  • phbell
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    I dont think the decrease will just be limited to pvp.

    Agree. ZOS will nerf themselves right out of a game.
  • Urvoth
    Urvoth
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    Decrease.
    It won't be viable to play ANY magicka build that uses shields and magsorcs will be be completely gutted, so those players will likely either quit, play way less, or reroll to stamina.
  • Sanctum74
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    Decrease.
    Pvp population decreases with every patch due to them ignoring performance issues, introducing more cheese sets, and forcing people to keep changing their builds and play style.

    Between the patch changes and all the new games coming out I think many people will be taking a break from the game.
  • RebornV3x
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    It will remain relatively unchanged.
    Probably a slight decrease because PvP gets worse every patch but it wont kill PvP any
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    I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.
  • Aesthier
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    It will remain relatively unchanged.
    As far as I know, nothing really changes the PvP population much. The only change is the people crying.
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    Decrease.
    Decided not to re-sub because of where the game is going and this patch is it for me. Mirkmire is everything that is wrong with ZOS' way of reacting to feedbacks that stated better alternatives or exact opposite. Power Lash and shield cast time are examples. No matter how Rob Garret tried to justify the change, I really do not see how this will go well with magicka players.
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  • Mayrael
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    Decrease.
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Pvp population decreases with every patch due to them ignoring performance issues, introducing more cheese sets, and forcing people to keep changing their builds and play style.

    Between the patch changes and all the new games coming out I think many people will be taking a break from the game.

    I already have a break. Let's say it's slow detox :) Unsubed, and when my sub expires I'll be off for a longer time maybe even for good.
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
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