Undaunted Passive and pvp characters

smashcats

When it comes to leveling a new character for battlegrounds or whatever, this undaunted passive is probably the most annoying thing in the game. why is a passive that min/maxes my attributes locked behind days of pve content, it gives you max stats and its not even in your class passives or anything to be more accessable, why?

It seems like too significant of a passive to just randomly be in a guild skill line that takes forever to unlock, we should get this passive moved somewhere else so that people can actually get it and use it on their characters without being inferior to others who have spent the time grinding undaunted.

Also, on a pvp character nobody wants your mediocre DPS in vet dungeons or pledges anyways, so were basically being forced to spec as PVE for the first 2 weeks of a new character if u want to grind this passive, and i say 2 weeks because its so boring that you cant keep going without taking breaks all the time.

VaranisArano

As a PVP player, we can get this when PVE players get Caltrops, warhorn, etc with no PVP at all.

But this is moot, because ZOS wants its players to play ALL of the game to get ALL of the cool stuff.

Merlin13KAGL

25 hours tops, pugging randoms. Less than that for half benefit (Undaunted 7)

Request Battle Spirit remove the Undaunted passives, everyone stays equal, and you don't have to PvE for the buffs unless you choose to.

It's not game breaking with or without it. (It's basically 1-2 free glyphs). If you want it bad enough, you'll go out and get it.

@VaranisArano couldn't have said it better.

Thogard

Go for the achievements on the easy vet dungeons. A speed + no death + hardmode run will give you the equivalent of 5 undaunted quest turn-ins.

Throw on earthgore to help with making them no-death if you’re pugging.

Donny_Vito

VaranisArano wrote: »

As a PVP player, we can get this when PVE players get Caltrops, warhorn, etc with no PVP at all.

But this is moot, because ZOS wants its players to play ALL of the game to get ALL of the cool stuff.

Warhorn is Rank 4, and Caltrops is Rank 6. That's not equal to "no time." But like one of the other posters stated, you can get to rank 10 in Undaunted pretty easily by doing the vet runs and getting the achievements plus dailies.

Finviuswe

It's a nice bonus to have but it's not essential in the least.

You can still do fine without it.