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Can we all please stop arguing over the class balance for a moment and focus on the real bull-?
Nyladreas
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Because it's not even going to matter what class you play or what you use if this is going to make it into the game AND STACK. This is what we should all fight before anything else. This right here and right now!
Soldier of Anguish (Medium)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Weapon Critical
4: Weapon Damage
5: When you deal damage with a melee attack, you have a 25% chance to traumatize your enemy, negating their next 5500 points of healing for 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
^ WTF IS THIS ZOS?????????? 4 SECOND COOLDOWN? LOL...
Do you want 4 man NB groups killing everything without ANY EFFORT WHATSOEVER? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F.... 22k Healing negated? WONDERFUL! (NOT)
Do you want to kill SOLO PVP?
Do you want to just make PVP braindead again like when sload stacking was a thing? Have you NOT learned a SINGLE THING?
Wow....
Edited by Nyladreas on September 19, 2018 9:29AM Soldier of Anguish (Medium)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Weapon Critical
4: Weapon Damage
5: When you deal damage with a melee attack, you have a 25% chance to traumatize your enemy, negating their next 5500 points of healing for 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
^ WTF IS THIS ZOS?????????? 4 SECOND COOLDOWN? LOL...
Do you want 4 man NB groups killing everything without ANY EFFORT WHATSOEVER? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F.... 22k Healing negated? WONDERFUL! (NOT)
Do you want to kill SOLO PVP?
Do you want to just make PVP braindead again like when sload stacking was a thing? Have you NOT learned a SINGLE THING?
Wow....
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max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You think only Nightblades will use this set? Bias revealed.
Any class using 2h or dual wield will use this set.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
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✭✭✭✭No, I won't stop bemoaning the PvE death of my two most-played characters just because you've identified a PvP concern.Edited by FrancisCrawford on September 19, 2018 5:48AM6 -
Lasinagol✭✭✭Why do stam toons get to be the only one's with a new toy? I'll drop my destro staves and use dual weild spinner's or something...cheese confirmed...might be difficult if it stacks...Altmer Supremist, filthy spell slinger since Nerevar was assasinated0 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
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Zos just nerfed defile....then come out with a set like this.
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Septimus_Magna✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't get this either.
Zos just nerfed defile....then come out with a set like this.
Very odd
This is like Defile and Sloads had a baby.PC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer0 -
Ozazz✭✭✭✭Because it's not even going to matter what class you play or what you use if this is going to make it into the game AND STACK. This is what we should all fight before anything else. This right here and right now!
Soldier of Anguish (Medium)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Weapon Critical
4: Weapon Damage
5: When you deal damage with a melee attack, you have a 25% chance to traumatize your enemy, negating their next 5500 points of healing for 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
^ WTF IS THIS ZOS?????????? 4 SECOND COOLDOWN? LOL...
Do you want 4 man NB groups killing everything without ANY EFFORT WHATSOEVER? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F.... 22k Healing negated? WONDERFUL! (NOT)
Do you want to kill SOLO PVP?
Do you want to just make PVP braindead again like when sload stacking was a thing? Have you NOT learned a SINGLE THING?
Wow....
"oh god my poor heale!" Templars ruin pvp honestly & with the death of my class i honestly can careless for the whole state of the game i hope every class gets ruined personally
maybe besides night blade, i have some night blade love 1 -
Ardan147✭✭✭✭Did ZOS NOT learn their lesson from Sload's?This creature called a songbird. What a devious creation! This winged nuisance erodes sanity with its incessant chirping. What a brilliant form of torture!0
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coplannb16_ESO✭✭✭✭only thing for LA wearers that could help against this set is shield/shield-stacking. yay for cast-time on them, erm lol?
also just drop this on top: https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Borrowed+Timemax level: mDK, stamBlade, stamSorc, magPlar, mDen, stamDen, magBlade, stamCro
ESO+
# of mules: 4 (FULL)
maxed bank: FULL -_-
Stop the grind! Get rid of stupid events and daily-quest gallore. Get rid of "have a chance of 1 in a million to get a piece of 1 in 30 to get a stupid motif or pet... wtf..."
And at this point just remove all classes and have everyone choose their set of skills. then balance accordingly to skills always used vs. skills never used.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Did ZOS NOT learn their lesson from Sload's?
Viper and all other proc set from that time
Earthgore
Zaan
Sloads
Anguish
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They prob never will"We're all born under the same sky and on the same earth. Therefore, we all deserve the same amount of respect."
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✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »Septimus_Magna wrote: »
Yeah, plus can use with Sloads for maximum hate whispers at bgs.
Set is way too strong for many situations.
I know the reasoning behind the set though, its to fight the healbots and trolltanks that can just stand on objectives and impossible to take down on small scale, one would say to ignore, but cannot ignore a chaos ball carrier and so on. And hard to nerf those troll builds without nerfing pve tanking to the ground. So they are trying these angles, would think Gilliam was there to test these and said no no no, not this way.
Also, not arguing about the changes, but.. now IF sorcs gonna get those shield nerfs, people that are anti-sorc should not be happydancing around, because soon ZOS looks at their charts and sees sorc not performing as well as others and no they dont buff sorc, they nerf all other classes to sorcs level, no one will be happy then. You remember my words then. Thats how they balance.0 -
Arrodisia✭✭✭✭✭I don't see per second in the tool tip.
It doesn't say 5.5k heals per second on the tool tip. unless the tool tips are wrong, it only says flat out that it negates 5.5k for for 4 seconds. Which means the max amount negated is 5.5k within that time frame, not 22k written in this thread and it already has a cooldown. so can't be applied to multiple targets at one time. However combined with defile and stackable it could be ugly on single target.Edited by Arrodisia on September 19, 2018 8:57AM0 -
Moonsorrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭juttaa77b16_ESO wrote: »I don't see per second in the tool tip.
It doesn't say 5.5k heals per second on the tool tip. unless the tool tips are wrong, it only says flat out that it negates 5.5k for for 4 seconds. Which means the max amount negated is 5.5k within that time frame not 22k and it already has a cooldown. so can't be applied to multiple targets at one time. However combined with defile it could be ugly on single target.
It stacks, so several people using it on same target would be deleting that target.1 -
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✭Who needs OP shields, I'm so going to rock this set so haaard in Vmol *squeals in excitement0 -
TheInfernalRage✭✭✭✭✭ALL I KNOW IS THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CURRENT PTS ITERATION APPEARS TO HAVE NO IOTA OF COMMON SENSE WHEN PLAYING THIS GAME, IF THEY PLAYED AT ALL.0 -
SpiderCultist✭✭✭✭✭too bad I probably won't see it live, looks awesomePC | EU
Ashlander and Mephala worshipper.
"You are just another breed of domestic animal, grazing stupidly while higher beings plot your slaughter."0 -
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and I did say it could be ugly on a single target. lolMoonsorrow wrote: »juttaa77b16_ESO wrote: »I don't see per second in the tool tip.
It doesn't say 5.5k heals per second on the tool tip. unless the tool tips are wrong, it only says flat out that it negates 5.5k for for 4 seconds. Which means the max amount negated is 5.5k within that time frame not 22k and it already has a cooldown. so can't be applied to multiple targets at one time. However combined with defile it could be ugly on single target.
It stacks, so several people using it on same target would be deleting that target.
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Arrodisia✭✭✭✭✭A lot of people will want to wear this unless ZOS fixes it. There's no doubt about it at this time.0
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✭✭✭✭Moonsorrow wrote: »Septimus_Magna wrote: »Septimus_Magna wrote: »
Yeah, plus can use with Sloads for maximum hate whispers at bgs.
Set is way too strong for many situations.
I know the reasoning behind the set though, its to fight the healbots and trolltanks that can just stand on objectives and impossible to take down on small scale, one would say to ignore, but cannot ignore a chaos ball carrier and so on. And hard to nerf those troll builds without nerfing pve tanking to the ground. So they are trying these angles, would think Gilliam was there to test these and said no no no, not this way.
Also, not arguing about the changes, but.. now IF sorcs gonna get those shield nerfs, people that are anti-sorc should not be happydancing around, because soon ZOS looks at their charts and sees sorc not performing as well as others and no they dont buff sorc, they nerf all other classes to sorcs level, no one will be happy then. You remember my words then. Thats how they balance.
It's not helping anything though if its something that can be applied to anyone at any time.
I know there are always people thinking.. Oh but it is to help us fight some <random spec> well yeah but it also makes every other spec obsolete then because it deletes squishies in seconds. Hell. I can assure you tanks will be wearing those as well.Edited by Nyladreas on September 19, 2018 9:28AM0 -
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✭TheInfernalRage wrote: »ALL I KNOW IS THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CURRENT PTS ITERATION APPEARS TO HAVE NO IOTA OF COMMON SENSE WHEN PLAYING THIS GAME, IF THEY PLAYED AT ALL.
You had me, right up until "iota"0 -
Micah_Bayer✭✭✭✭✭Because it's not even going to matter what class you play or what you use if this is going to make it into the game AND STACK. This is what we should all fight before anything else. This right here and right now!
Soldier of Anguish (Medium)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Weapon Critical
4: Weapon Damage
5: When you deal damage with a melee attack, you have a 25% chance to traumatize your enemy, negating their next 5500 points of healing for 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
^ WTF IS THIS ZOS?????????? 4 SECOND COOLDOWN? LOL...
Do you want 4 man NB groups killing everything without ANY EFFORT WHATSOEVER? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F.... 22k Healing negated? WONDERFUL! (NOT)
Do you want to kill SOLO PVP?
Do you want to just make PVP braindead again like when sload stacking was a thing? Have you NOT learned a SINGLE THING?
Wow....
In every other sorcerer thread you have been so divisive. So no.0 -
ExcaliburESO✭✭✭✭I like this set very interesting for duels and solo. But if it stacks its like donno too much0
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Moonsorrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Moonsorrow wrote: »Septimus_Magna wrote: »Septimus_Magna wrote: »
Yeah, plus can use with Sloads for maximum hate whispers at bgs.
Set is way too strong for many situations.
I know the reasoning behind the set though, its to fight the healbots and trolltanks that can just stand on objectives and impossible to take down on small scale, one would say to ignore, but cannot ignore a chaos ball carrier and so on. And hard to nerf those troll builds without nerfing pve tanking to the ground. So they are trying these angles, would think Gilliam was there to test these and said no no no, not this way.
Also, not arguing about the changes, but.. now IF sorcs gonna get those shield nerfs, people that are anti-sorc should not be happydancing around, because soon ZOS looks at their charts and sees sorc not performing as well as others and no they dont buff sorc, they nerf all other classes to sorcs level, no one will be happy then. You remember my words then. Thats how they balance.
It's not helping anything though if its something that can be applied to anyone at any time.
I know there are always people thinking.. Oh but it is to help us fight some <random spec> well yeah but it also makes every other spec obsolete then because it deletes squishies in seconds. Hell. I can assure you tanks will be wearing those as well.
Exactly, thats why i said this is the wrong way to do it. So i agree with you, as it is now, its too strong set and yeah, pretty much "all" be wearing it if it goes live like this.0
