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If ZOS carries the current iteration of the PTS into Live, will you still play the Sorc class?

TheInfernalRage
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If ZOS carries the current iteration of the PTS into Live, will you still play the Sorc class? 474 votes

Yes
48%
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No
51%
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    Yes
    I'd probably go stam if their dumb combat developers ignore the total outrage over the shield cast time.
    For the love of Kyne, buff sorc. PC NACP 2100+Star-Sïnger - Khajiit Magicka Sorc - EP Grand Overlord - Flawless Conqueror vMA/vBRP/vDSA no death/vHel Ra HM/vAA HM/vSO HM/vMoL HM/vHoF HM/vAS +2/vCR+3/vSS HMs/vKA HMs/vVH/vRG Oax HM/vDSR
  • SilverIce58
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    Yes
    I'd have to move some stuff around, and maybe learn how to use the shield, but my petsorc is my main, and I'm not shelving him for anything (unlike some people do to their "mains")
    PC - NA
    CP 1125
    Veric Blackwood - Breton Magsorc DC
    Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
    Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
    Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
    Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
    Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
    Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
    Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
    Iscah Silver-Heart - Reachman Magden DC
  • karekiz
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    Yes
    Sure, but I will probably remake it into a pet sorc. If they aren't interested in buffing my sustain without a pet and nerfing my defensive might as well go pet sorc with matriarch.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Yes
    I only do pet sorcs already, since my lag is so bad. Pets are run server-side, which can at least mitigate in small part 2-second lag.
  • XxCaLxX
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    Undecided.

    Still hoping they don’t go through with it, but I do have a stamsorc I play a lot too. I started playing magsorc in may if 2017 and couldn’t get into it but after playing it awhile and running through some end game content I started doing everything with it. I don’t understand why ppl say it’s the easy class or whatever but I can do flawless vMA on any other mag class just as easy as sorc, but they’re not as fun to me. The style of the abilities is what appeals to me. All in all I guess I’d shield changes go through I’ll have to have a high crit build to utilize surge as much as possible because I will not slot a ward that has a cast time. Dumbest move ever.
  • ccfeeling
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    Yes
    Pve only :D
  • Cronopoly
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    Yes
    Yes, but I won't go anywhere near PVP on my Magicka Sorc.

    OP you should mention Magicka Sorc in the Title (edit your 1st post)... as is it leaves it open for Stam Sorcs as well which is likely not your intention..
  • LadyLethalla
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    No
    Probably not. Or my magblade. Or any of my other mag DPS characters. Which leaves... a stam DK, that I might make into a WW, a healer and a stamden. Maybe the NB tank as well.
    x-TallyCat-x // PC EU DC - For the Covenant! // ESO Platinum trophy - 16th May 2017.
    Melbourne Australia - the land of Potato Internet.WTB ESO OCEANIC SERVER
  • Lasinagol
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    Yes
    Bit of a die hard altmer magicka caster...at least they don't suffer from a weakness to everything.
    Altmer Supremist, filthy spell slinger since Nerevar was assasinated
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    No
    No. Already experienced this on the PTS. Don't like it. Nothing fast paced about a one second cast time for damage shields.
  • JJBoomer
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    Yes
    Of course. It's the only class thats fun for me in this game. And if the sorc hate keeps up, I'm going to make a troll sorc and just interfere with stam groups and pvp campaigns. just to even things out a bit ;) lol
  • Fur_like_snow
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    Yes
    Stam Sorc yeah magicka sorc naw.
  • jainiadral
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    Maybe. I'll see how my main still plays. She deserves to experience the full story arc. Then again, I only do overland content and delves, so it may not be that big of a deal. We'll see.
  • Splattercat_83
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    Probably wont even play the game anymore to be honest. I quit for 8 months and came back because my friend begged me to come back to it. He quit playing 2 months ago so if these current changes go live, with the shields and the nerfs to magblade I'll probably hang up my hat as I hate wardens, templars, or dks.
  • Ozazz
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    No

    that 42% are all people that dont play the class lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo nice try!!!!!!!!! especially in pvp.
    Edited by Ozazz on September 19, 2018 5:28AM
  • madeeh91rwb17_ESO
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    No
    All this shield sh*tstorm is making us ignore the changes to other things like dark deal.

    Dark deal was one of the iconic stamsorc skills. Now they have gutted that one too. Even tough I haven't seen anyone bitching about stamsorcs of late.

    F this game.
  • Minyassa
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    Yes
    Yes, in PvE, but if I have to do PvP I sure as hell won't take a sorc. And obviously I won't be doing Maelstrom Arena with my main, which sucks. I have to blow off completionism entirely now.

    Edited by Minyassa on September 19, 2018 5:31AM
  • Ozazz
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    No
    like i'm dead serious, the people voting yes have no play time on the class, save yourself the time and effort by listening to someone with over 6k hours on the class. further more if these changes go live you should do your self a favor and do not continue to play this game
    Edited by Ozazz on September 19, 2018 5:31AM
  • Ozazz
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    No
    this pole wont be an accurate pole just so you know, theres 10 classes in the game, magic sorcerer being one class. so you have 90% of the population that plays other classes and A are either complicit or would advocate for these changes because shields are the only thing opposing them from getting a free kill. HOW CAN YOU BE SO FOOLISH
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  • Artim_X
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    Yes
    I'm very annoyed with the removal of our 3rd bar and a cast time on our primary damage shields makes them significantly less useful when you actually need them, but the class as a whole still appeals to me. The main reason I'm still playing my sorc is due to it being my main. She still has plenty of enemies to slay and lands to explore.

    In PvP I have less utility for myself and others due to the loss of my 3rd bar. I'll still play PvP to pass the time, but only in groups.
    (AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanist
    Electric-Stun
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    • Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
      Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
    Electric-Pets
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    • Stress free one bar pet build .
    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
    • Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
    Electric-Heal
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    • My Healer Build.
    • Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
    Electric-Ward
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    • My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
    • Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
    Electric-Vamp
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
    Dawnfang
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    • My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
    • Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
    Duskfang
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
    Eye of the Queen
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    • My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
    • Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
    Eye of the King
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
    PvE Starter Gear
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    • Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
    • Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
    Race
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    • High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
    Mundus Stones
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    • PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
    • PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
    • PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
    Current Champion Points
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    • DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
    • PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    Favorite Foods and Potions
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    • Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
    • Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
    • Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
    • Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
  • sekou_trayvond
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    No
    Seeing as I predominantly play stam toons, when I do pve with a mag toon I'm an unabashed shield spammer, yeah, I'll be focused on all my stam toons.
  • Miswar
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    No
    This goes to live will simply quit ESO. I know quite a few that will do exactly the same.

    In the meantime just doing few writs and not much playing.
  • Lasinagol
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    Yes
    Never used the third bar. Won't miss it. Already practicing getting gud without a shield now...not gonna leave my Tamriel Hero just because ONE playstyle was nerfed.
    Altmer Supremist, filthy spell slinger since Nerevar was assasinated
  • Tsukiino
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    No
    [PvE Scenario/Magicka Sorcerer]

    In my case, I wouldn't want to play it in PvE. No, the class isn't "dead", but it's just not enjoyable at all. Firstly, the magicka sustain is very poor, even with the Exchange changes. Second, the damage is mediocre compared to the other classes. Third, it has the worst execute in the game! The damage is fixed from 20% HP to 0.1% HP, at least let it scale up to a % damage.

    Mag Templar, Mag NB, Mag DK, and hell even Mag Warden are hitting much higher, PLUS they have superior sustain.

    The only reason I would want to play this class, is for when the group needs Conduit synergy for Alkosh, and Minor Prophecy for the 6% Spell Critical.
  • HiLyfe808
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    Yes
    I have played a sorc through our nerfs from console launch and I’ll still play my sorc no matter what. Now I guess my NB will finally have more play time.
  • SenorCrouch
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    Hang on, my answer has a one second cast time...
    "What's the cross roads of Alessia Castle? I am trying to get pizza delivered."
  • Nova Sky
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    Yes
    I voted "yes," but I would also plan on taking a two-month to six-month vacation from ESO before coming back to see how the class is faring in early 2019.
    "Wheresoever you go, go with all of your heart."
  • Cardthief
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    Yes
    Ozazz wrote: »
    like i'm dead serious, the people voting yes have no play time on the class, save yourself the time and effort by listening to someone with over 6k hours on the class. further more if these changes go live you should do your self a favor and do not continue to play this game

    Eh, maybe for PvP, Im just over 6k hours myself and my MagSorc was still pulling his weight on the PTS for endgame PvE content.
    (MC) Main DPS: Redz Kuinn - Lvl 50 - MagSorc - PvE
    Main Healer: Soranna Anilu - Lvl 50 - Templar - PvE
    Main Tank: Seamus Kuinn - Lvl 50 - Dragonknight - PvE
  • D0PAMINE
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    I have a mag and stam version of each class, so I get nerfed and buffed into oblivion. I think my tank will be ok, he's used to damage.
    Edited by D0PAMINE on September 19, 2018 6:26AM
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