Overload rework...why?
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GimpyPorcupine
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So, am I the only one that's bothered by the overload changes? Loss of the third bar, light attack damage cut in half, heavy attack (that I've only seen used by noobs) increased. And disabling ultimate generation when it's turned on.
Yes, they're removing the LA from the GCD, but so what? I know it was clunky, but with frags, curse, and wrath on the bar, the GCD on the LA slowed down the pace while restoring Magicka (Energy Overload), and everything seemed to mesh well.
And that third bar was really what gave my Sorc a distinct feel from the other classes.
What was the impetus for this change, anyway? Part of the attempt to homogenize all the classes? The keyboard warrior that spent so much time whining on the forums that they couldn't learn to avoid the most avoidable attack in PVP?
Bright side, though; after Murkmire drops, the forum might go for a couple of days without a new #nerfsorc thread.
Yes, they're removing the LA from the GCD, but so what? I know it was clunky, but with frags, curse, and wrath on the bar, the GCD on the LA slowed down the pace while restoring Magicka (Energy Overload), and everything seemed to mesh well.
And that third bar was really what gave my Sorc a distinct feel from the other classes.
What was the impetus for this change, anyway? Part of the attempt to homogenize all the classes? The keyboard warrior that spent so much time whining on the forums that they couldn't learn to avoid the most avoidable attack in PVP?
Bright side, though; after Murkmire drops, the forum might go for a couple of days without a new #nerfsorc thread.
8-hr/day casual on Xbox NA. 20 Characters, all DC, all Level 50. +2600CP
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Flaminir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Personally I want to test it...
Agree the loss of a 3rd bar is an issue for some... but I can see that it could also be a good thing to simplify some builds.
The dps cut on LA will wreck some builds.
The heavies used to be unreliable... EG: you'd get stuck in a heavy animation when all you wanted was a light attack, it wasn't that reliable.
The interesting part could be if its possible to sensibly weave energy overload in with other skills from a sustain perspective. As long as the DPS increase fitted in with comparable ulti's then it could help with sustain.
I suspect that it may be lower DPS though.GM of the Unholy LegacyEU/EPSorcerer Flaminir (Magicka) / Staminir (Stamina)
Templar Elixiia (Magicka/Healer) / Lotti Velooni (Magicka)
DragonKnight Xalora Flaminar (Tank) / Unholy-Dragon-Toad (Tank)
Nightblade Aimee Owlious (Magicka) / Myttens (Stamina)
Warden: Frosti-Tute (Magicka/Healer) Boops-Many-Snoots (Stamina/Tank)0 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It’s rare anything in patch notes makes me nervous, but this does. I don’t really care about the loss of the third bar, but the dramatic damage reduction of the light attacks? It’s the only really heavy hitting ability my mage has, and that’s going to be ‘had’ if this goes through.1 -
Emmagoldman✭✭✭✭✭
✭Personally I want to test it...
Agree the loss of a 3rd bar is an issue for some... but I can see that it could also be a good thing to simplify some builds.
The dps cut on LA will wreck some builds.
The heavies used to be unreliable... EG: you'd get stuck in a heavy animation when all you wanted was a light attack, it wasn't that reliable.
The interesting part could be if its possible to sensibly weave energy overload in with other skills from a sustain perspective. As long as the DPS increase fitted in with comparable ulti's then it could help with sustain.
I suspect that it may be lower DPS though.
Yes, I agree. Curse, activate overload, overload light attack, flame reach for knockback, crushing shock. I'm pretty sure they would hit around the same time. Might be interesting0 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Emmagoldman wrote: »
Yes, I agree. Curse, activate overload, overload light attack, flame reach for knockback, crushing shock. I'm pretty sure they would hit around the same time. Might be interesting
All dodgeable except curse though...1 -
Darkenarlol✭✭✭✭✭
✭positive side -
a second chance to long-underused ultimate (in PVE)
with magicka recovery morph it may become a usefull tool that can help sorc's sustain issues in some way
(yes gaining no ulty points while active and 50% dmg nerf doesn't make it more attractive than classic destro ult)
negative side -
it is a massive change which gonna affect both PVE and PVP mag and stam sorcs who used 3rd bar to slot long buffs/utility
abilities there.
again less class identity / unique class features and kick in the face to non-meta niche builds
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Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭All of my builds DPS, healing, and PvP make use of the overload bar. It is/was a fun aspect of the sorcerer class and truly felt class defining. Both stamina and magicka sorcs could benefit from the utility of having a third bar. A lot of players don't realize how big of a loss this is especially those who never made use of it. Back in the early days of ESO I never bothered slotting overload and had the current PTS been the first time I had ever truly made use of it I would applaud the change, but I know from experience that the third bar was a boon that helped some sorcs like myself feel more complete.
The change to overload's light attacks is also odd. I've played around with a sorc gank build and I always felt that it was cool that a sorc could be played in that manner, but now that playstyle is seemingly being removed. I am very bothered by the fact the combat team is essentially removing sorc builds that make use of the overload bar and they are not even giving us passive buffs to make up for the loss of an entire bar.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistSpoilerElectric-StunElectric-PetsSpoilerhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gif- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
Electric-HealSpoilerhttps://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gif- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
Electric-WardSpoilerhttps://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gif- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
Electric-VampSpoilerhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gif- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
DawnfangSpoilerhttps://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gif- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
DuskfangSpoilerhttps://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gif- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
Eye of the QueenSpoilerhttps://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gif- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
Eye of the KingSpoilerhttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gif- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
PvE Starter GearSpoilerhttps://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gif- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
RaceSpoilerhttps://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gif- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
Mundus StonesSpoilerhttps://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gif- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
Current Champion PointsSpoilerhttps://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gif- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
Favorite Foods and PotionsSpoilerhttps://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gif- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
Spoilerhttps://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Ravenayle✭✭✭Honestly, if they just got rid of the need to have buffs / pets double slotted on both bars so they stay active, that would be awesome.
I hate the changes.1
